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  1. Gink

    The Frey civil war

    I cant see the lords of the Vale attacking the Riverlands on Littlefingers behalf, and he has no army of his own. Well, maybe, if the Lannister regime falls, and Sansa is revealed and married to HtH, they may very well press Sansas claim to the Riverlands. But I doubt the Vale lords are willing to lift a finger for Baelish. Freys killing Freys in a civil war though, with BwB fighting/sabotaging both sides. That sounds like fun.
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    How did certain families get Valyrian steel?

    Yes, I was also thinking the only explanation would have to be visions of the future, greendreams he had, so he knew both swords would be needed at the Wall. I dont like this image of Bloodraven where he's portrayed as some sort of omnipotent being that has a finger in everything that happens though. At least not already back then. Edit: Im going to be sticking with Loose Bolts theory upthread regarding the origin of Longclaw, its the one that makes the most sense to me.
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    How did certain families get Valyrian steel?

    I dont understand why Bloodraven wouldnt return Blackfyre to the king though, he was serving as hand after all. It makes no sense to me that he would hide it for years while acting as hand, then smuggle it in secret to the Wall when exiled for killing Aenys Blackfyre.
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    How did certain families get Valyrian steel?

    I know, I said so in my post.
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    How did certain families get Valyrian steel?

    Bloodraven was the one who killed Daemon Blackfyre with a hail of arrows, but would he be allowed to bring the most valuable and important Targaryen heirloom with him to the Wall? Considering Bloodraven already had Dark Sister, why would the Targaryens let him have one more family valyrian steel sword? I guess he coulve retrieved it from the battlefield and hid it, then smuggled it to the Wall when he was sent there. Why would he do that though? It sort of makes sense, and it sort of doesnt. Im 50/50 when it comes to Longclaw being what Jeor said it was. They're both bastard swords, which seems to be another point in favour of your theory. Edit: skimmed the worldbook, and the last we hear of Blackfyre is Bittersteel picking it up and ending up in a duel with Bloodraven. The duel ended in a draw. Theres no mention of what hapoened to Blackfyre after that as far as I can tell. Did Bittersteel take it into exile, or did Bloodraven manage to disarm Aegor?
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    The Schism of the First Men

    I never said it was raised in a short amount of time, however, I doubt people were too keen on moving north of the construction site that soon after the long night. Thats what I ment when I said I didnt think anyone lived north of the wall until after it was raised. We know that the Watch has been continuously adding to it over the millennia, we're told in one of Jons chapters.
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    The Schism of the First Men

    We dont know if there were anyone north of the wall when it came up. Its been standing there for 8.000 years as far as we know. I would think no one lived in the lands north of the wall at the time it was built (I suspect it was built by the Others anyway), and people just ended up there as the millennia passed. Some fleeing justice, others seeking freedom from the tyrannical nobles, NW deserters, some from shipwrecks etc. Over time they developed their own customs and culture.
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    Which minor spin-off story would you like to see?

    The Bloodstone Emperor usurping the Amethyst Empress, resulting in the first Long Night. I love everything GEotD. Was very dissapointed when HBO decided to cancel Bloodmoon. Was hoping to see the Blood Betrayal. That would also cover the second sidestory Id like to see, the Daynes origin, the Daynes escape west, following the falling star. I believe they were either family or supporters of the Amethyst Empress, and I think Dawn was the sword of her dynasty.
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    Wow, I never noticed that. Vol. 18

    Never noticed in my first read that Renly basically told Ned at the hands tourney that Tyrion didn't win that dagger from Littlefinger.
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    Varys Blackfyre hint?

    Yes, that's exactly what I ment in the OP too, I should have been more clear. I never ment to imply there might be a magical connection between Targ blood and knowing secrets if the Red Keep. Also, we see Varys, through Aryas POV, in those same tunnels not too long after, escorting Illyrio. Though, we don't know at the time it's acctually Varys.
  11. Not really a minor house, but I`m desperate to know more about the Hightowers, by far the most facinating house in my mind. I want to know more about the Hightower black stone base (built by dragonlords). Why is the island it`s located on called Battle Isle? What dragon did Uthor slay? A wild one, or one of the dragonriders of GEotD? Did Uthor rebell against the GEotD? Seem to recall from somewhere that the Hightowers are as old a house as the Daynes, so seems possible. Anyways, of the minor houses; Corbray is interesting with Lady Forlorn, though I hate Lyn. The Daynes obviously, and the Blackmonts (because they are fun to start with in CK2-AGoT). And last, but not least, The Farwynds of Lonely Light.
  12. I`ve just started a reread, and I noticed something as Cat and Ser Rodrik is approaching Kings Lnding in the tyroshi galley. I`m sorry if this has been brought up, but I`ve spent the last couple years reading old threads (on page 450ish in this section of the forum now) and can`t recall seeing it mentioned. Cat is standing by the railing and is thinking about KL and the Red Keep, and here`s the part that caught my eye: "Aegon the Conqueror had commanded it built (Red Keep). His son Maegor the Cruel had seen it completed. Afterwards he had taken the head of every stonemason, woodworker, and builder who had labored on it (after a great feast). Only the blood of the dragon would ever know the secrets of the fortress the Dragonlords had built, he vowed." Might this be a hint of Varys being a Blackfyre as so many theorize? As we know, Varys do know the secrets of the Red Keep, and I`m no talking about actual secrets (whispers), but the hidden and secret tunnels and all that. I can`t think of anyone who knows the fortress as he does. Anyways, I don`t know what I think of the whole fAegon Blackfyre theory, but this might be something to consider.
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    Destiny of Jon Snow

    I honestly don't see how Gendry Baratheon is part of the Targ dynasty. Roberts (great?) grandmother or something was a Targ, Orys was a Targ bastard (probably) 300+ years ago. By your logic there would be potentially hundreds of people in the Targ dynasty still, as everyone with a Targ in their family tree is a Targ? Makes no sense to me. And Robert won the throne in a rebellion, through conquest, he didn't inherit it, though his Targ ancester was used as an argument Robert should have the throne, and not Stark or Arryn.
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    Destiny of Jon Snow

    And he is a Baratheon. There's obviously a lot of people in Westeros that has Targ blood, but the house Targaryen is gone.
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    Destiny of Jon Snow

    In my mind he left the wall to go build that cabin Ygritte talked about. No King Beyond the Wall, no duties, just a cabin in the real north to live out his unnatural long undead life in peace. Also, I don't know if wights can reproduce, but I'd think not, so the Targ line ends here.