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  1. So I have answered a similar question before so I am just gonna copy paste my answer. It is quite clear that the Red Wedding will have disastrous consequences for the future of the realm. Things like guest right and non-aggression during certain agreed upon times are the things that ensure that people try stuff like negotiation. Imagine the Renly and Stannis parlay in the second book. Now would any of them have agreed to it if they were afraid that they would be attacked and killed? Of course not. But they did not fear such a thing would happen because that is just something that you do not do. Guest Right was another such thing. So the Red Wedding essentially just shatters this concept of basic moral expectation. Now everything is gonna be fair game. This is gonna mean that almost no one will be willing to negotiate or trust their enemies to follow the most basic of humane acts. There is no telling the ramifications of something like that. Wars would probably go on for much longer and no one is ever gonna surrender because they will be afraid that they will be killed regardless. Overall the realm will bleed for long. That is the refutation of Tywin's quote "Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner". It is not just that thousands of people were killed in the Red Wedding. It is also that thousands more WILL be killed in the future because their lords decided that they might be murdered if they attend a Parlay or that they will be killed even if they surrender. All due to the idea of basic humanity being shattered by the Red Wedding. Now of course we cant put all the blame on Tywin because the Freys were the ones who organised it but Tywin had given it his full approval so there is no doubt that he is also partly to blame for it.
  2. Even if they lost, that does not make it attempted robbery. Even if the americans had lost, it still would not be robbery. If a region tries to get independence, it is not robbery regardless of the result. But in your previous post you disagreed with this. How on earth does westeros belong to the targaryens? The current official rulers are the "baratheons". The original inhabitants were the Children of the Forest.
  3. Jon Arryn seems to be the best choice. Ned was too inflexible, Robert too extravagant, the Tywin too self-serving, Tyrion too unpopular and Cersei too short-sighted. Jaime was too arrogant before he lost his hand and is generally uninterested in ruling. Stannis,though he did help Arryn in governing the realm ,is at his peak only at the end of Storm of Swords and in DwD when Davos reminded him of duty. So it seems that Arryn is the one best suited to be King.
  4. Well Westeros does not belong to the Targaryens anymore. Also if the people of a land would want to declare independence they can do. It cannot be seen as attempted robbery(heh Robb-ery get it?). Using your logic, Americans have "robbed" america from the british through the American Revolutionary War.
  5. As many have pointed, it was perfectly fine for Jaime to take a trip to the Rock even if he is a Kingsgaurd knight. Robert probably did not care. Now as to how Tywin convinced him, well Tywin just seems to be a very scary guy in general and maybe he convinced Jaime that it was okay because Tysha was probably a gold digger anyway. So maybe Jaime just did it to please his mother and tried to justify to himself but probably deep down he knew it was wrong.
  6. Not too sure about the Castamere. Sacking KL probably did cause the inhabitants of King's Landing and Dorne to hate the Lannisters. Not sure how long term that is gonna be though. Now the Red Wedding on the other hand will have disastrous consequences for the future of the realm. Things like guest right and non-aggression during certain agreed upon times are the things that ensure that people try stuff like negotiation. Imagine the Renly and Stannis parlay in the second book. Now would any of them have agreed to it if they were afraid that they would be attacked and killed? Of course not. But they did not fear such a thing would happen because that is just something that you do not do. Guest Right was another such thing. So the Red Wedding essentially just shatters this concept of basic moral expectation. Now everything is gonna be fair game. This is gonna mean that almost no one will be willing to negotiate or trust their enemies to follow the most basic of humane acts. There is no telling the ramifications of something like that. Wars would probably go on for much longer and no one is ever gonna surrender because they will be afraid that they will be killed regardless. Overall the realm will bleed for long. That is the refutation of Tywin's quote "Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner". It is not just that thousands of people were killed in the Red Wedding. It is also that thousands more WILL be killed in the future because their lords decided that they might be murdered if they attend a Parlay or that they will be killed even if they surrender. All due to the idea of basic humanity being shattered by the Red Wedding. Now of course we cant put all the blame on Tywin because the freys were the ones who organised it but Tywin had given it his full approval so there is no doubt that he is also partly to blame for it.
  7. But should the bride does not have to be near Edmure's age as long as she is young and healthy.Heck she could even be a teenager. In those times it was quite common. It seems reasonable that at least a betrothal would be made.
  8. I dunno about the lack of suitable women because it is actually quite common for Lord Paramounts to marry into the family of one of their vassals to strenghten ties. Lady Ollena was actually a redwyne before she married Lord Tyrell. There has to be some lady from one of the Riverland Houses. Now of course freys were banned but there are other powerful houses like Bracken, Mallister, Piper, Vance, Blackwood etc. So there was to be a young woman for him to marry.
  9. Apologies, I accidentally quoted the sh*w. (Makes shocked face). I read the battle of blackwater scene again and yeah the Hound did not say that. But man that scene was intense.
  10. Mirri Maaz Duur? I actually felt sorry that she died. Agreed about Joff and Harma and I can understand Weyma, but MMD was not meant to be satisfying.
  11. I dunno man, it all feels a little far-fetched here don't you think? But I guess this is what happens when you have had to wait for 9 years for a god damn book.
  12. To quote the Hound here: I would r*p* his f***ing corpse. On a more serious note though, I think the past 5 books have been so well written that i would not regret reading them even if I do not get the climax. That said I still very much want to get my hands on the winds of winter, hopefully this year (I know I am sweet summer child)
  13. Basically Theon was kinda stupid and trusted the wrong people. He is kinda like Robb and Ned in the sense that he does not think that there could be enemies inside his camp. Also he was probably euphoric and did not think properly at the time. And like Robb and Ned he definitely paid for his mistake.
  14. I was under the impression that he also told Ned to make him King. I checked and that was only in the s**w. Sorry about that.
  15. If indeed he knew about the twincest then of course it would make sense for him to cover it up. He does not want to give Stannis's claim any legitimacy. Even if he publicly acknowledged that Joffrey is a bastard then that does not help him much since legally he would still be a usurper. It does however solve Stannis's biggest problem which is that no one seems to believe his claim.
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