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  1. It really sounds to me like he needs to reexamine his writing style. This whole "writing without an outline" is not working at the endgame of the series. I know it's how he enjoys writing, but if he is actually serious about completion, he needs to think about changing things up. Find a person or two he trusts, hole up in his house for a week or so, and discuss what he's got done, where the story needs to go overall, what he's thinking about doing with the dozens of various plot threads and themes, what's working, what's not, etc. A week should be sufficient time to come up with "here's what this book needs to do, and here's what needs to happen in each chapter to do it". Otherwise, if he keeps wanting to write from a spontaneous perspective and never set up an outline, the series will never be finished.
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    Why did Jorah push Dany to go to Asshai?

    Regardless of the dragons, who would have kidnapped Rhaego, and how would they have gotten away with the kid without anyone noticing? The Dothraki wanted nothing to do with the magic or anything related to it. If the kid had been discovered, they would likely have killed it. And there weren't a whole lot of people there besides Daenerys, Jorah, and the Dothraki. So, I'd agree that it doesn't make sense for a variety of reasons.
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    Most melancholic and "Human" moments in ASOIAF?

    Dunk cutting his own cheek in hopes of averting further bloodshed was one of my favorite quiet "Oh Wow" moments.
  4. Same issue with the books, just different character. I don't believe it was ever explained by Martin.
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    Would a family therapist help the Greyjoys out?

    That's for Walder Frey. His successive generations are murdering each other and keeping score of where they are in the succession. Even without pissing off the rest of Westeros, his house is about to disintegrate.
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    Biggest Mistake Made by Robb

    Based upon the conversations that she had with both Catelyn, and Jaime, I'd agree. Plus, we know for certain that several members of the family were not aware to their detriment, so it makes sense that Jeyne would also not know as well. Plus, makes a nice variation on Roslyn who did now what was going to happen and was very distraught about it. One theory I've read is that the WoW prologue (or maybe later in the story) will show the upcoming Frey wedding in Riverrun, and thus Red Wedding 2.0. We'll see the BwB execute their revenge against the Freys, and Jeyne's going to be an unfortunate casualty (Lady Stoneheart might blame her, but the readers would know she's innocent). Part of the analysis of the theme of the destructive nature of revenge that GRRM has been leaning into, as the readers see the innocents harmed.
  7. In regards to the initial question, I think the problem is obviously his writing habits. 1. As his own boss, he doesn't discipline himself to meet deadlines. He mentions that he can never write when he's on the road doing his various tours, book signings, etc. This is a weirdly honest comment in the vein of telling my boss "Sorry I got so far behind on my work, I couldn't get to it because I was taking a lot of vacation days". He also works on old technology, which doesn't speed up his writing habits. The next two problems are related. 2. He apparently refuses to use an outline? Others have stated this, so nothing new. It doesn't seem like he has any sit-downs with people he trusts to work out various intersecting points. Instead, he simply lets the muse take him and writes what he's feeling at the moment. Once again, others have stated that this isn't the most appropriate style when approaching the end game. 3. I've heard somewhere that he simply writes an idea out (see #2), and if he doesn't like where it's going he simply deletes back to where he felt the problem started occurring. This would be a good explanation to me for why he seems to think he's close to finishing, but then hasn't finished several years after that point. He reached a point where he didn't feel like a story element was working, so he deleted all the pages related to that element. That seems like it would explain a lot, even though that's very weird.
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    most tragic character

    I actually gained less sympathy for her after that. Now, who knows how much of her concern for her children is over their own fate vs. bringing her own downfall that much closer? Plus, the prophecy as written has given her ample opportunities to thwart it. For example, she could not be Queen, she could have chosen to have another child, etc. However, her own ambition and hubris makes this the classic literary self-fulfilling prophecy.
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    Biggest Mistake Made by Robb

    I think Sybell was working up the potion angle to hedge her bets. If the Starks win the war, she's majorly improved her family's standings, especially if Tywin and his loyal vassals end up getting attainted by whoever becomes the King. I think she contacted Tywin after Robb and Jeyne had hooked up, and was keeping an eye on which way the wind was blowing the whole time. For the second part, I've said the same. If Tywin had lost/the Starks hadn't lost Winterfell/etc., I think Walder Frey would have taken the insult a little better. Probably just used the opportunity to weedle some more concessions. Once he thought that Robb was going to lose, however, the Freys were looking to back out however they could. The insult just gave them more of an excuse (in their mind).
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    When was Theon supposed to go home?

    Balon had written off Theon and was planning on attacking the North anyway, once Robert had died. When Theon first arrives back at Pyke, he marvels at all of the ships and wonders if his father had anticipated his coming and called the banners. Unfortunately for Theon, that chapter (like several of his early ones) shows that the joke is on him. Balon didn't know that Theon was returning. He had already started plans to attack the North anyway, fully anticipating that this action would result in Theon's execution.
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    New Theory for the Perfumed Seneschal

    You are welcome to submit my lame humor to GRRM as Exhibit A for why we need him to finish WoW.
  12. " In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume. Now it was perfume that clung to him like perfume" If the Usurper was not the true king according to Dany, then he was just an illegal steward overseeing the kingdom while she was gone. When she returns to Westeros, Daenerys will encounter the Wighted form of Robert Baratheon coming after her! Or not. Gave me a giggle at least. Hope everyone is having a great day!
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    Biggest Mistake Made by Robb

    I think this might have been the biggest mistake in the actual causality, because Bolton was sabotaging him since the beginning, even when they were winning (technically, Bolton's sabotaging his regional rivals, but Robb's hurt all the same). Sending Glover and his forces to Duskendale might have been the tipping point where Roose and the Freys consider the Red Wedding numerically possible. However, despite the severity of the consequences, I'm not sure Robb made a mistake in judgment given the information that he had at the time. The other competitor for biggest mistake to me is sending Theon to Balon, something both Ned and Catelyn were against. Interestingly, the consequence they should have foreseen is not the consequence that occurred. They both wanted to keep Theon close to keep Balon from rebelling. However, we saw that Balon had written Theon off to die and was going to attack anyway. The big difference (apart from Robb not having to execute Theon in retaliation), is that the Ironborn would otherwise have not attacked Winterfell (Asha gives the reasons why it's a poor strategic target; Theon goes for the "big prize" because he's got daddy issues), and would likely not have the inside knowledge to lure Rodrick out for the gambit anyway. Without Winterfell falling, everything changes: Roose probably doesn't decide to betray Robb full-time, the Freys aren't looking for a way out of the war, and Robb might not sleep with Jeyne Westerling (we don't yet whether there was a love potion, but Bran/Rickons' deaths trigger the need for "comfort"). The other big mistake I think Robb made was not giving more information to Edmure. Robb may or may not have known that Edmure was a hot-head with insecurity issues, but being gone in the field for a time and having limited access to communication, you'd think that individual commanders would have some discretion in their mobilization. If Robb left Riverrun with the knowledge of what he was going to do, he should have clued in Edmure a little bit more because he would not know what circumstances would arise in his absence, and would want to make it crystal-clear about the reason for his instructions. The one-two punch of losing Winterfell and his brothers, and having Tywin defeat Stannis (because Edmure gave him the opportunity) is what causes the Freys and Roose to decide to switch sides. If King's Landing had fallen to Stannis, the Lannisters were basically done at that point, and would not be attractive conspirators. Even if Robb had married Jeyne after that, the Freys would be livid but may not have resorted to the Red Wedding without the promise of Lannister assistance. Of course, without marrying Jeyne the Freys would be looking for a way out, but wouldn't have the cover/justification of "being dishonored" for performing the Red Wedding. Edit: I don't think killing Rickard Karstark was a mistake. In addition to killing the Lannisters, Karstark's men killed some of Edmure's guards. Failing to deal with Karstark at that point would make Robb look weak in addition to not performing justice. Also, I don't think there's much of a political problem for executing him at that point, as Karstark's men had already secretly dispersed through the night to go hunt Jaime. Failing to kill him would only make Robb look weak to his other bannermen, and wouldn't have retained any more of his army.
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    Why did Jorah push Dany to go to Asshai?

    add "and anyone else that might want to interject themselves between Dany and him."
  15. This right here. I think his message is that Being Good /=Being Good Ruler, not that Being Good automatically means Being Bad Ruler. One could be both, but that's not necessarily the case. I don't really think that GRRM has a set "this is *the* way to be a good ruler" in mind as much as an exploration and analysis of the concept, and how even the effective rulers have flaws. We see good people who are effective rulers and ineffective rulers, Evil people who are effective rulers and horrible rulers (Joffrey for one). Even Tyrion, who was probably the most pragmatic ruler who walked the line between Good and Evil had some severe flaws in leadership. Remember that a lot of this analysis came from GRRM reading "And Aragorn ruled wisely" and questioning that statement. Hence "What was Aragorn's tax policy and plans for reconciliation with the orcs?" He wasn't saying that Aragorn was by default a bad ruler because he was Good, just rejecting the unilateral statement that Good Person = Good Leader.