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  1. Thomaerys Velaryon

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Jon stayed five years with the GC. That would place is fake-death around 289 AC. Viserys and Daenerys stayed in the house with the red door in Braavos until Willem Darry's death, which has been calculated to have occured in around 289 or 290 AC. So it is possible but unlikely Jon and Viserys meet at that time. I wonder if Jon knew Viserys and Daenerys were at Braavos. And if he knew, I wonder why did he choose to stay with the GC/to look after Aegon instead of joining them.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    @The Wondering Wolf @Ran Thank you for your answers. So Daeron and Daemion were at KL but didn't talk and thus didn't lose their tongue. Ok got it.
  3. Thomaerys Velaryon

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I think I found an inconsistency in Fire & Blood. I'd like to have your inputs on the situation guys. Thanks. It seems to me from this quote that only Malentine, Rhogar and their 3 unnamed brothers got their tongues removed and became known thereafter as the "silent five". But earlier in the book, we learn that Vaemond's two sons, Daeron and Daemion, and his widow were also present when Viserys ordered the tongue removal. So were Daeron, Daemion and their mother present at King's Landing or not ? Did they got their tongue removed or not ? Using the "silent five" to refer to the tongueless Velaryons doesn't really make sense, if eight people actually got their tongue removed.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    That would work nicely with the time of Stannis and Selyse's marriage. Maybe the Lordship of Dragonstone was Robert's wedding gift ?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I've been wondering the same thing myself while working on creating wiki pages for the streets in King's Landing. The north is not indicated in the KL map from The Lands of Ice and Fire, only in the ACOK map. I used this information to describe the locations of the streets. Should it be changed then ?
  6. Even Catelyn Stark is ok with Ned having a bastard. She is just not ok with him being raised at Winterfell. She is not ok with Jon being raised at Winterfell because she is afraid her own grandchildren's claim on the castle could be contested if Jon marries a noblewoman and fathers trueborn sons.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    The wiki page for House Farwyn of Sealskin Point presents it as the main branch of House Farwynd and the Farwynds of the Lonely Light being a cadet branch. Isn't it actually the reverse ? Fire & Blood told us the origin story for the Farwynds of the Lonely Light:
  8. Thomaerys Velaryon

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    I'm no gamer and I did not play to neither the Game of Thrones RPG nor the Blood of Dragons Mush. I apologise for my ignorance, I'm a bit confused, why does wiki pages exist for characters from the former but not the latter ? What's the difference ? Especially since some characters from BoD are part of the canon.
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    Winterfell, the castle, questions about

    @Universal Sword Donor's answers is really good. For the second question I will add this nice tidbits from Fire & Blood: Given that the north was independant at the time, Wyman Manderly didn't have to pay any taxes for his building project at White Harbor.
  10. Thomaerys Velaryon

    King Aegon VI Appreciation Thread

    The Targaryen kings on Iron Throne didn't really help their subjects when Dalton and Dagon Greyjoy invaded the West coast of Westeros, it would be a good PR move for Aegon to help the Reach this time. It would show the people he care for them and help him gain support rapidly. It would also give time for Cersei to regain control of KL before Aegon arrives. I hope so.
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    King Aegon VI Appreciation Thread

    That would be great! Not really in his route to King's Landing though, unless he pulls a Robert Baratheon and goes West after taking Storm's End. I suppose him going West to rally more Reach Lords to his cause (or join with the Dornish host) before marching for the capital would be a good move.
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    Small Questions v. 10106

    The appendix in ADWD states that the ruler of Godsgrace is Lady Delonne Allyrion, so who is this Lord of Godsgrace ? Is it a mistake on George's part ? Is he her husband ? Did Delonne die off page during the span of ADWD and Ser Ryon Allyrion, Delonne's son and heir, became the new Lord of Godsgrace ? I don't know if George has ever clarified how the husbands of ruling ladies in Dorne are called. Are they called "Lord", "Consort" or something else ?
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    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    @Rhaenys_Targaryen @Tibbie I relaunch the debate on the limits of childbearing age, particularly for Dorna Swyft. We currently don't have an age calculation for her but we could create one: She was handed over by her father, Ser Harys Swyft, to Ser Kevan Lannister when he couldn't pay back his loan to House Lannister. This event happened in between the return of Tywin and Kevan Lannister from the War of the Nine Penny Kings and the Reyne-Tarbeck revolt, so late 260 AC or early 261 AC. This indicates Dorna was born at the latest in 261 AC (though I doubt Kevan took a few months old baby as an hostage, so I'm guessing she was born a few years before that event). By 266 AC, Dorna and Kevan were married. They will have four children together, the youngest being Janei Lannister (born in 296 or 297 AC). We know for a certainty Dorna was born in 261 AC at the latest, making her at the mimimum 36 years old at the time of Janei's birth (if she was born in 297 AC). Do you think we could apply the "50 years old equals the limit of chilbearing age" rule for Dorna ? Therefore she would be born in or between 246 and 261 AC. For reference, her husband Ser Kevan was born in 244 AC.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Concerning the marriage of Lord Ronnel Arryn, there is this quote from TWOIAF: But in Fire and Blood we have the following: @Ran Does King/Lord Torrhen Stark now has several daughters (at least two) in the canon ?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    There are two houses with a very similar name, both from the westerlands: * House Broom * House Broome Are they really two separate houses ?
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    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    In the appendix from ACOK and ASOS, Rhaegar Frey is married to Jeyne Beesbury, the mother of his three children (Robert, Walda and Jonos). But in the appendix from AFFC Jeyne is now dead due to a wasting illness. Can I use these information to mark early 300 AC as Jeyne's time of death in the wiki ?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Do you take the quote as he wasn't the head of House Bolton anymore and thus it wasn't him who became the first Lord of the Dreadfort ? If not I don't see why we should doubt he wasn't the first person to held this title.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Should we put Rhaena Targaryen (daughter of Aenys I) as Lady of Dragonstone in the wiki ? Jaehaerys I Targaryen gifted her the lands but he never named her "Princess of Dragonstone" like heirs of the Iron Throne tends to be.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    That's true, I didn't think about that. The timeline also works for Ormund being Lyonel's grandson.
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Ormund Baratheon is described as Lyonel Baratheon's heir. Given that Lyonel had a daughter at that time, the only way for Ormund to be the heir would be he was in fact Lyonel's son, correct ? (since a daughter inherit before an uncle, a cousin or a nephew)
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    The Wiki-Timeline Project v2

    @Rhaenys_Targaryen I understand your wish for more consistency in this project. I'll do this way from now on. Ok. Interlinks can generally all be found on the character page, they don't add a great value when it comes to the calculations pages. I don't think they are necessary. I think it should stay at 13. Fire and Blood seems to emphasize the idea of marrying young girls being very risky (Jaehaerys didn't want a bedding at his first marriage because Alysanne was too young, Aemma Arryn being married early led to her death, ...). I have also two things I want to discuss with you: 1. I have seen some characters ages being calculated on basis of them being knighted: the character is at least 14 turning 15 the year he receives his knighthood. If we continue to use this argument to calculate ages, shouldn't we make it an official rule ? 2. We also could be more consistent with the use of dates. Sometimes dates are used as interlinks (i.e. {{Date|50}} ) and sometimes they are used in text from (i.e. 50 AC).
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    Let's talk about some of the awful art on the wiki

    Speaking of art on the wiki, I've seen a lot of art that comes from "The World of Ice and Fire" and "Fire and Blood" books. Does all the artists for these books have given their permission to use their art or just some of them ?
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    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    It's too bad. I'll continue without it then. I didn't know the specific thread, thank you.
  24. Thomaerys Velaryon

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Did Lord Beron Stark died in 212 AC ? Hi everyone, I'm currently working on calculating the years of births and deaths for the members of House Stark. If I could confirmed Beron's death in 212 AC, it would give me more information to work on. In The Mystery Knight (which takes place in 212 AC), Beron is said to gather swords to fight the Ironborn. But when Dunk and Egg will arrive in Winterfell at the beginning of D&E 4, Beron will be dying from a mortally wound he took fighting the Ironborn. I don't know how much time Dunk and Egg will take to go from Whitewalls to Winterfell but I'm guessing they will probably arrive in late 212 AC and witness Beron's death and burial. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
  25. Thomaerys Velaryon

    The ASOIAF wiki thread

    Hi everyone, Earlier this month @Gonzalo added the option "issue" to the character infoboxes. I desire to do the same with an option called “betrothed” for betrothals. I started to do it when @Rhaenys_Targaryen pointed out to me I should ask you opinions first. If my felow editors don’t approve, I’ll delete the edits I already did (sorry for not thinking of asking first). Obviously, I intend to only edit the official betrothals in the character infoboxes, not the ones mentioned as a possibility. For example, Brandon Stark & Catelyn Tully, Daryn Hornwood & Alys Karstark or Beric Dondarrion & Allyria Dayne are official betrothals unlike Brynden Tully & Bethany Redwyne or Daven Lannister & Desmera Redwyne. I don't know if pointed out the betrothals that successfully turned into a marriage is really necessary. However, those which didn't succed for a reason or an other (one of the betrothed died prematurely, the betrothal is annulled, ...) could be interesting. Examples: Joffrey Baratheon & Sansa Stark, Viserys Targaryen & Arianne Martell, Robert Baratheon & Lyanna Stark, Theomore Manderly & Viserra Targaryen, ... So what do you think?
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