The ASOIAF wiki thread in Wiki of Ice and Fire Posted February 8 I'm not sure if I read this following passage correctly. Quote "You do not know his strength. He's been gathering men on Pyke. Orkwood of Orkmont brought him twenty longships, and Pinchface Jon Myre a dozen. Left-Hand Lucas Codd is with them. And Harren Half-Hoare, the Red Oarsman, Kemmett Pyke the Bastard, Rodrik Freeborn, Torwold Browntooth . . ." "Men of small account." Asha knew them, every one. "The sons of salt wives, the grandsons of thralls. The Codds . . . do you know their words?" "Though All Men Do Despise Us," Tris said, "but if they catch you in those nets of theirs, you'll be as dead as if they had been dragonlords. And there's worse. The Crow's Eye brought back monsters from the east . . . aye, and wizards too." A Feast for Crows - The Kraken's Daughter Is House Codd despised/looked down by the other nobles ironborn because 1) they are descendants of salt wives and thralls like the others cited by Asha here or 2) there is another reason ? In ADWD Theon also reflects on House Codd's status. Quote The Codds were not well regarded in the Iron Islands; the men were said to be thieves and cowards, the women wantons who bedded with their own fathers and brothers. It did not surprise him that his uncle had chosen to leave these men behind when the Iron Fleet went home. This will make my task that much easier. A Dance with Dragons - Reek II It seems that Answer 2 is the correct one. But Answer 1 could still be correct too, thoughts ?