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  1. When I first read the title of this post I thought it meant sailing ships so I was all ready to write about King Robert’s Hammer and Sea Bitch. And now I’m all disappointed. If anyone was wondering, my favourite ship in ASOIAF is Black Betha
  2. ie, Robb, Balon, Joffrey, Renly, or Stannis, which of them did you hope would succeed and which do you think would be/would have been the best outcome for the realm at large? For me factors include the personal qualities of each king, what their cause was, and the positives and negatives of their success, both short and long term. For example, Renly was the most liked king among the smallfolk and imo would most likely have been able to restore peace the quickest had he won. However, if he ascended to the Iron Throne, in the long term this may create a problem, as it would set a dangerous precedent, with the heir seen as the most capable taking the throne rather than the oldest, which could create more succession wars in the future. Personally, the king who I supported the least is Balon, since he really should have learnt a rebellion was not the way to go back in Greyjoy’s rebellion, and also how he wanted to revive the Ironborn’s reaver culture and raid Westeros again is hardly sustainable. Also, to me he seems to make poor decisions, as he refused to attack Lannisport because Tywin was “too cunning by half”, which didn’t really make sense given that since he literally wants to secede from the 7K, he would definitely be on Tywin’s hit list regardless of attacking Lannisport or not, albeit near the bottom. Anyway, what are your 2 cents on this? Was Robb right to rebel? Should Renly have tried to jump the order of succession? And is there anyone on this forum who actually respects Balon?
  3. I think it would have gone to a son, and the new lord(s) of the gift would be pledged to support the NW with food etc, since the main problem is the NW dont have enough people to properly use the land of the gift. Shame Ned’s plans never got realised since it would have gone quite a long way in strengthening the NW against the Others and wildlings.
  4. Props to CamiloRP for persevering through this thread! I only had to read it, I cant imagine how it was actually debating! The clash between Camilo and the Aegon VI is Jaqen theory will be spoke of on this board for aeons to come!
  5. I doubt Manderly is out there. He is injured, as you said, and seeing as he is “too fat to sit a horse” there wouldn’t be much point in having to bring him in his litter.
  6. Historically, Targaryen. At the start of ASOIAF it is obviously Baratheon. Currently (at the end of ADWD) I think it is the Tyrells. However, one could make the case that Dany (and therefore House Targaryen) is the most powerful since she has the ultimate weapon : dragons.
  7. If Pod does have ulterior motives, he may be working for Varys. There is lots of reference to Podrick being tongue-tied, which could allude to Varys’ little birds typically not having tongues. However, it is probably just a reference to Ilyn Payne losing his tongue.
  8. I think this is a good point and I agree with it. Revenge and vindictiveness is not meant to be a good motive in ASOIAF. Robb’s war was at least partly fought out of revenge, and it didn’t end well for him. The Freys are almost universally hated due to their petty actions of revenge against Robb. I think we are meant to pity characters like Janos Slynt and Joffrey. Regardless of if you think they deserved it or brought it on themselves, as spectators IMO we are meant to pity them. I think GRRM writes these characters deaths as so horrific because he prefers characters to seek redemption rather than being punished or seem irredeemable. Think of characters like Theon and Jaime, they have done terrible things but are trying to atone for them. I think Septon Meribald’s broken men speech complements this idea well, humanising even those you are fighting against. The important thing about his speech is that it could broadly be applied to any soldier on any battlefield, regardless of if they are Stark, Lannister, Bolton, or Frey.
  9. On the Castamere page in the quotes section Tyrion: The Crag is not so far from Tarbeck Hall and Castamere. You'd think the Westerlings might have ridden past and seen the lesson there. Tyrion: Mayhaps they have. They are well aware of Castamere, I promise you. —Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister I think the second ‘Tyrion’ speaking is actually Tywin.
  10. A. 1. He is in WF trying to return Ned’s bones after getting help from the crannogmen. B. 2/3. I can’t decide Stannis or Mel C. 1 D. 1 E. 2 F. 2 G. 1. H. 1. Though I don’t think it will matter either way I. 1 J. 1 K. 1 L. 4 Shavepate or 2 M. 1 N. 2
  11. Rambton is shown as a place on the island of Sweetport, however there is no confirmation in the books that the seat of House Rambton is called this. Is this written because the suffix ’-ton’ translates from Old English to settlement/estate? So Ramb-ton may mean ‘settlement of rams’ which would tie in with House Rambton’s sigil anyway. So House Rambton would actually be named after their seat of ‘Ram-town’. An example of this suffix in the book series is Harrenton being called Harrentown, and named after Harren the Black. This shows that in Westeros, ‘ton’ can translate to settlement/town, just as it does in Old English. This just goes to show the level of detail and thought Martin puts even into the tiniest details and specifications. But well done on the map series! I am keen on history and geography, so this series made a great read!
  12. That doesn’t necessarily point to them becoming romantically involved though. Also, with the thoughtlessness thing, it is just circumstantial. Jon doesn’t think of Catelyn or Theon or Rickon all that much either, and he grew up with them along with Sansa.
  13. Because Jon and Arya at least have actually shown some form of attachment. I think Arya is the person Jon cares most about, and Jon almost never thinks about Sansa. While I agree there is indication Sansa will find her knight in shining armour, I am not convinced at all it will be Jon.
  14. I really don’t believe either are/will be true tbh.
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