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  1. Daemon of the Blacks

    Best quotes of Game of Thrones

    ''To be honest I never particularly cared for them. Innocent or otherwise'' The memes. So many memes.
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    Who got the most screwed over

    Easily Varys. Other characters have been handled controversially but at least there was a certain method or logic behind it. Making Stannis more of a villain wasn't a very good decision but there were at least reason why D&D would decide on it. There have always been certain unpleasant traits of Stannis that can be exaggerated into villainy. He does have his brother killed, he does have a witch burning people at his side and his rigid nature can easily be seen as ruthless. Daenary's descent into madness wasn't particularly well executed but the traits required for Dany's fall were always there. Its the execution and not the idea that was the mistake. But with Varys its different. Rather than a deliberate decision to take his character in a certain direction Varys suffered from the writers just scrapping the point behind his character and genuinely being at a loss on what to do with him and very clumsily keep him around to lose his importance and competency. With Young Griff being absence Varys has no real master plan anymore and the writers don't really replace Griff with anything. Instead Varys master plan is just repeatedly shifting kings until he finally gets the right one. And this trait isn't even consistent since he honestly thought Visarys would be the correct choice despite him wanting a king ''for the people''. After the point where it becomes obvious Griff is scrapped Varys role just....stops. It completely stops. He doesn't do anything meaningfully for the rest of the series, doesn't use his spy network for anything and then gets killed for betraying Dany in the most clumsy way possible. The earlier seasons do set Varys up as a man with a plan and great ambition but because young Griff is scrapped this plan of Varys never emerges. He's being set up as a mastermind but the plot simply forgets about it. And the purge of Kings Landing, easily book Varys' most iconic moment is taken away from him and given to two less competent characters.
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    Why didn't Jon simply refuse to accept banishment?

    Because Jon genuinely thinks he has committed an act he deserves to be punished for. Why would honorable Jon Snow refuse to accept punishment for a crime he deeply feels is punishable. It would be out of character for him to try and worm his way out of this.
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    I hate the Starks, should I keep reading?

    For what its worth I'm not particularly fond of the Starks either. A lot of people think their mistakes are just being ''too food for this sinful Westeros'' but I just find them poor leaders who find their own personal desires and sense of honor more important than the people they are leading. Ned had it all. A golden ticket to win the game of thrones, to prevent a war and take power or at least establish order so he could return home to Winterfel. And whether Robb married Jeyne to protect her honor in the book or married Talisa for that sweet Volentine ass he knew it would have a detrimental effect on the war, just as he knew he had the option to take Karstark hostage rather than kill him and lose his troops. When starting at the books I was a bit shocked how unlikable Ned turned out to be. I already didn't fully agree with his sense of morality since he felt preventing a war was less important than the ''honorable'' course but in the books he also very clearly and openly contentious of Baelish who as far as Ned knows hasn't dome anything to deserve it yet and who isn't as openly corrupt as he's in the show. His treatment of Jaime also rubs me the wrong way. ''You served him when serving was safe'' he sneers at Jaime in the show despite probably realizing fully well that serving the mad king was never safe. And in the books his treatment of Jaime still stems from a massive amount of hypocrisy. To Ned Jaime deserves to lose his honor because he's a kingslayer who broke his vows. But what exactly was Ned planning to do when he set out for Kings Landing? Kindly ask King Aerys for a cup of tea? Just pat him on the back for a war well fought? Offer exile? Probably not. Would Ned find himself a horrible kingslayer if the Lannisters hadn't beaten him to the capitol? And why is Jaime reprehensible for breaking his vows to the king but not Ned himself, his pall Robert and Papa Jon Arryn? He tells Robert that unlike Jaime they weren't Kingsguard but that excuse rings very hollow. I don't really begrudge the Stark's main status and screentime though. It really does make sense to pick the moral team and make them the main characters and the situations the Starks find themselves in are often fairly interesting.
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    Who was the Biggest Villain of the Dance?

    I never saw Otto as that bad of a guy. He definitely played a very big role due to him scheming to increase the power of house Hightower. However he lacks a lot of traits that turn him into an actually malicious man. Maybe its the lack of screentime but he's never depicted as particularly cruel or vindictive. If anything his words imply he's driven to such lengths because he fears Daemon is the vindictive one and will kill him if he becomes king. The scheming definitely came to bring ruin on Westeros but that's hardly intentional and he doesn't really show any petty desires to actively bring down anyone with plots, except maybe Daemon. Otto seems a clear expy of Tywin but lacks both Tywin's ruthlessness and his immense stature. He plots and he schemes but gets demoted as Hand before really being able to show his mettle. Arranging an alliance with the Triarchy does imply competence but that's all he manages to do before Aegon fires him and Rheanya beheads him
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    Lord Paramount Bronn

    Out of all characters Bronn seems to have been given one of the finer endings. From common sellsword to the richest lord in the realm. With Casterly Rock running dry the Reach must surely possess more wealth then the Westerlands and the biggest population in the seven kingdoms. With this Bronn likely surpassed the Aryans, the Tullies, the Martels and even the Lannisters in power when all was said and done. And if not he's still one of the seven most powerful men on the continent. But....what exactly did Bronn do to deserve this happy ending? He was always going to get some reward and since he's a fan favorite it would definitely be a fine one. But why was the reward Highgarden and the Reach? What in Bronn's career justified this immense advancement? Bronn's service to the Lannisters was no doubt important but he always remained a grunt at best. He provided no great troops nor did he personally lead forces into battle. -Bronn served as Tyrion's bodyguard for a bit and saved the life of the ''lowest of the Lannisters'' -He briefly commanded the city watch which Tyrion probably didn't have the authority to arrange since Tywin removed him the moment he got back -Bronn served very well at the battle of the Blackwater -Bronn served some time as Jaime's bodyguard and was present in the sieges of Riverrun and Highgarden, however neither castle's capture was even remotely due to bronn. None of these tasks were particularly vital to the Lannister war effort. Bronn's effort surely helped them but he was hardly their ace in the hole. So in the end what could have justified Bronn being given Highgarden aside from him threatening a cripple and a dwarf?
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    Who was the Biggest Villain of the Dance?

    Easily Christon Cole. Some characters killed for their ambition, others for their family and others for their personal safety. But not Cole. Cole lacked all these things and seemed to have been driven purely by Rhaenyra rejecting him. Even if it was a more noble reasoning like looking down on Rhaneyra's lifestyle then it still wasn't his place to deny her the throne based on those objections. Cole seems like a pretty vile man while lacking any motive that might justify his actions.
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    The Perils of a Reluctant King

    Oh, I meant the ''so'' more in the sense of ''so what?'' As in a 'So my boyfriend's really dumb, so what. at least he's still pretty'' kind of statement.
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    Bran Truly Was The Best Possible Choice To Rule

    Not really. The first season already proved the Ned Stark approach isn't suited for running the realm yet Jon never seemed like he learned from that. Things like Jon being a good person like Ned or being able to bring people together like Robert were already proven not to automatically make a good king. Nor did Jon ever show great political or administrative skill.
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    This ending is nothing but Bitter

    Like I said, I don't particularly like the idea of Bran becoming king, but at least having visions is at least some point in his favor. And he's got relatives in important positions. Edmure in the riverlands(if he didn't simply die off screen), Robin in the Vale and Sansa in the north. That said its a really strange idea narrative since Bran is kind of a secondary character and none of his plots were really about ruling. Even as a little kid that did have emotions, dreams and aspirations Bran wanted to be a knight rather than a king. I think Prophet Bran would be pretty bad at PR too which could lead to an Aegon III type of kingship.
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    This ending is nothing but Bitter

    I really don't like the idea of Bran becoming king. But then again....I do prefer Bran over Jon since Jon got no business being on the iron throne. Bran at least has the wisdom of the three eyed raved. Jon's got nothing except traits that have been proven to not automatically make a good king like ''bringing people together''(like Robert), and typical Ned Stark traits that have long been proven detrimental to one's ability to rule.
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    The Perils of a Reluctant King

    I don't think Jon's reluctance would be a big problem. Jon's problem is that he just hasn't shown any reason as to why he would be a good king other than because the writers say so. Jon displayed no great political skill. Jon never liked making compromises, he generally ignores pragmatic advice and acts like a typical Stark. So Jon has an easy time winning the trust of people. So did Robert and that didn't work out. Jon may be a good person but this does not naturally translate into being a good ruler. Jon acts like Ned and Robb Stark and considering how they ended that's not a good thing. If Ned and Robb failed their nations by placing their personal honor and sense of morality above the common good then Jon aping that would not make him suited for kingship, quite the opposite.
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    Bronn did see a lot of actions but always as a junior officer. Bronn negotiated no great alliances, did not personally serve as a general nor did he lend a significant amount of troops to any cause. he's just a very competent officer which should logically grant him a minor fief rather than the wealthiest castle in Westeros.
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    I hope he doesn't end up getting highgarden. It would just be Bronn becoming one of the most powerful lords in Westeros because he's popular rather than because he did anything to earn it.
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    Northmen slaughtering civilians

    The North already hung riverland girls way back in the day so its not that surprising the sack a town that didn't bother to surrender until the absolute last minute.