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  1. This Youtube video ("The Best Way To End Game of Thrones!? - Top 10 End Game Theories! Game of Thrones Season 8") by Talking Thrones, describes ten main ideas for continuation or alternative ending to the TV series, that people (discussers and fan fiction writers) have had. That Youtube video copied this information from this page on a website called ScreenRant . It listed these 10 fan theorizations about what might happen:- 10: Targaryen restoration: Jon and Daenerys marry and rule Westeros as king and queen. 9: The Night King wins: the Night King kills all of the main characters and destroys Westeros 8: Daenerys goes back to Meereen 7: Jon and Daenerys die, their child inherits the throne 6: Jon Snow becomes king: but without Daenerys 5: Jon and Daenerys give up their claims and leave Westeros: they go east to Meereen or beyond the Wall with the wildlings 4: The Iron Throne is destroyed, Westeros is ruled by a Great Council 3: Gendry becomes king 2: Cersei destroys King's Landing with wildfire 1: Westeros is divided into seven separate kingdoms once more; and perhaps Jon and Daenerys rule the Crownlands, making 8 kingdoms
  2. Is 'Lajasar fini arthaso' correct for "the Army of the Fallen"? The main query is: Have I used the genitive plural of "fin" correctly? (Literally: army -- of those who -- fell) (To remember the meaning of "fin", I suppose that think that: "fin" is the relative pronoun, and when I scuba dived, my fins related me to the water.)
  3. It is recorded that the First Men entered Dorne from Essos from where Tyrosh is now, dry-shod on the Arm of Dorne before it was broken, walking or riding on seabed which then was land, between the Stepstones which then were inland rocky hill areas, and reached higher land. The main account seems to say that they then had to endure the long drought of Dorne before they found the Prince's Pass. But https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Sea_of_Dorne says that The World of Ice & Fire, Dorne: The Breaking. says that "some maesters, such as Cassander, believe the Sea of Dorne was once a smaller inland sea separated from the narrow sea by salt marshes". That would have let many of the First Men go straight north dry-shod from the east end of Dorne to the east end of the Stormlands, a shorter and better-watered jouney.
  4. In "Fire and Blood" I have read plenty about Targaryen royalty flying about on dragons. But when the dragon was big enough to carry two people, the only people who got to ride pillion on a dragon was a personal bodyguard, in canon stories, as far as I remember. I would have thought that dragons would have been used more often this way, to ferry important people about in a hurry and safely over the heads of dangers on the ground.
  5. Is there a list anywhere of how WoIaF / GoT personal and place names are represented in translations into other (real world) languages?
  6. For some sets of rules, see http://www.aappleyard.com/cyvasse/cyvasse.htm I welcome all comments.
  7. What has happened recently with working out sets of rules for cyvasse? And in playing the game? Some people have worked out sets of rules. I have reformatted them tidily as .htm files with tables in.
  8. My own attempt this way was influenced by (among other things) seeing a Youtube video extract of GoT, showing Dany on Drogon teaching Jon Snow to ride Rhaegal in the North, which got me hoping for (and writing about) a lasting romance between Jon Snow and Dany, leading to the two becoming the new King and Queen of Westeros.
  9. "shadow fire" may mean a thin ghost-like attempt at making fire.
  10. I have had vague ideas of the ironmen, caught between many things, having in the end to bend the knee to the king of Westeros and obey his laws and become Westeros's navy.
  11. But Fire and Blood does not say specifically that the Targaryens did nor bring dragon-controlling horns with them.
  12. Ref. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jaehaerys_I_Targaryen :: In Fire & Blood, King Jaehaerys I and Queen Alysanne were flying back on their dragons (Vermithor and Silverwing) home from Oldtown to King's Landing, with 3 planned night stops (Horn Hill, Nightsong, Blackhaven). On the way they got a message that their mother Queen Alyssa was dangerously ill at Storm's End. They fly there, with night stops as needed, and reach her bedside in time. The time from when the childbirth emergency arose to their arrival, would include the time that it took the message to get from Storm's End to wherever Jaehaerys was en route. If it was by raven, presumably a message raven could not fly faster than a dragon, and it would have had to stop to find food and to perch to sleep overnight. Plus the already-discussed problem of a message raven finding a moving message-recipient. That is several days for Jaehaerys and Alysanne to reach their mother's bedside; that seems a very long time for Alyssa to have survived a very prolonged labour with medical knowledge and technology as it was then. To shorten that time, we could assume that: (1) The message raven, and then the king's dragon (Vermithor), continued to fly for part of each night. That depends on how much better than men, ravens and dragons can see by night, and how much the night seeing was helped by moonlight or hindered by dull heavy cloud cover, and in its turn, for the dragon flight, by whether Vermithor could fly high enough to get above overcast cloud, and if so, by whether his riders had a source of high-altitude oxygen, a substance which is not stated in the books to have been known of back then. (2) The message was not carried by a raven, but travelled instantaneously (or at the speed of light) by some magical or technological means which is not stated anywhere else in the books, unless "glass candles" are meant here.
  13. I have the book Fire and Blood by GRRM, and it does not seem to go into much detail about how the Targaryen kings (before the Dance of the Dragons) controlled their dragons. I have the book Fire and Blood by GRRM, about the earlier Targaryen kings, and it does not seem to go into much detail about how the Targaryen kings (before the Dance of the Dragons) controlled their dragons. The books seem to treat Victarion's possession of a dragon-controlling horn as unusual; but I would have though that the Targaryens when still living in Valyria, like all the Valyrian dragonlord families, would have routinely had sufficient store of dragonhorns, and that they would have brought all theirs with them when they evacuated from Valyria to Dragonstone, and also the knowledge how to make more of them, and held onto them afterwards.
  14. Would dragons be able to operate in severe arctic conditions like Stannis's siege of WInterfell happens in? I read somewhere about sailors in the Shivering Sea encountering ice dragons; would the Night King be able to ride one of those, and not have to kill Viserion to get a flying mount?
  15. It seems that Victarion's horn comes under the heading of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun :: "if it appears, it should be used, for the story to be good". It is likeliest off-topic to go off into the fields of fan-fiction here, but the proliferation of GoT / WoIaF fan-fiction (including around a dozen Youtube videos) that has been written by people who were unsatisfied by how GoT ended, and/or got tired of waiting for WoW and DoS, and took the pen into their own hands, is likely somewhat a guide to how people expect the story to lead. I have the book Fire and Blood by GRRM, and it does not seem to go into much detail about how the Targaryen kings (before the Dance of the Dragons) controlled their dragons.
  16. In the book version, Victarion has led the whole Iron Fleet round to Slaver's Bay trying to catch Dany and her dragons. But he will find that she and her dragons are safely airborne and away, and the dysentery epidemic called the Pale Mare waiting for him. Likely he will have to go back home, pursued by an angry Essosi fleet, to the Iron Islands, just in time for both to be caught up in the final battle against the Night King. How severe a winter can the Night King's power make? Will Victarion come home to find the Iron Islands solidly frozen in and joined to the mainland by pack-ice?
  17. This Youtube video is about languages in what used to be Yugoslavia. It mentions a real city and called it "King's Landi' - uhh - Dubrovnik".
  18. This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Game_of_Thrones_(disambiguation) lists various GoT / SoIaF -related videogames. Which of them are multi-player? Which of them are still running? What has happened to them? The videogame described at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones:_Winter_Is_Coming was much advertized on Youtube a while ago. Has anyone here played it?
  19. Cersei's trial :: I thought that in the books the Faith had already tried her for much "sleeping about" and made her parade naked through King's Landing. The Battle of Winterfell :: Who between? To me, likely all living Men armies there including the wildlings/Freefolk, together in grand alliance, versus the Night King's army. (I hope that the dragons and the mammoths are not killed.) After the thaw, what proves to have happened to the smallfolk of the North? Likely many of them are sheltering in the big castles. Stories about "snow unicorns" prove from descriptions to be woolly rhinos (Coelodonta antiquitatis or Elasmotherium). (I suspect that the real-world unicorn stories started as the Indian One-horned Rhinoceros , until it got muddled by stories told by whalers trying to get a better price for narwhal tusks.) Another possibility is that the Night King causes such a severe winter that the Iron Islands are solidly joined to the mainland by strong thick landfast ice, and Victerion's Iron Fleet; after finding that Dany and her dragons are safely away airborne, returns pursued by vengeful Essosi fleets, cannot reach base, and it must surrender, or ally itself with the main human army against the Night King, and the Iron Islands become part of the Seven Kingdoms..
  20. I just now tried to access Dothraki.org and I got this error message: " Error 526 Ray ID: 660c364e4f2b4071 • 2021-06-17 12:16:58 UTC Invalid SSL certificate".
  21. See:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrewing_Rhaegal for a proposed new cargo plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocalotes_drogon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocalotes_rhaegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocalotes_viserion 3 species of lizard in the genus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocalotes
  22. And how do the Dragonpit's staff handle dragons?, to get among them to feed them, and to sweep up their droppings, and to bring a dragon back to its stable if its rider lands it and dismounts away from its stable, and such jobs familiar to the staff at a large horse stable.
  23. It is unlikely that the shipping technology of the time would let a nation of The North import by sea a largish proportion of its food needs, particularly to areas a long way from a seaport.
  24. Here to tell about the Sunkland family. In and around the Neck of Westeros is dangerous swamp and tidal sand and mud that, legend said, had once been forested land, but in ancient time the Children of the Forest had sunk it by great magic to try to keep invading Men out of the north, and men in the area called this the Sunk Lands. Wilmi, a farmer, and his men, lived on the south shore of the west end of The Bite on the east shore of the Neck in the Kingdom of Mountain and Vale. He bred many horses grazing on safer parts of the marshes of the Neck. Riding their horses, he and his people routinely chased off or killed or caught wandering thieving bands instead of losing crop or money to them. Sailors brought tales from afar in Essos about the Dothraki; this gave him the idea to develop skill in horseback archery. This was an unusual skill in Westeros, and it was useful against wandering suspect bands. Some men who had been inland in Essos and seen Dothraki nicknamed him Khal Wilmi. After a while he found what "Khal" meant, but he was too busy to bother chasing after such exotica and foreign customs. Having the resources, he built, instead of a castle, a long seawall of earth faced with big stones, enclosing much tidal foreshore and dangerous seaside swamp. As well as oxcarts, he could afford to use a family connection to venture a new idea to buy three mammoths and their handlers from the far North and use them to haul matchingly big wagons, to carry more earth and stones. At last the wall was finished, and the water behind drained out through tidal sluices that automatically opened at low tide and shut at high tide; the enclosed land gradually dried out. He called the result a seafortfield. Rain gradually washed the salt out, and he found how to reinforce shallow water-bed with "sink-mesh" of interlaced willow branches weighted down with large stones. His men harvested tall reeds and threshed them for their seeds, which they sowed all over the new land. Their roots gradually sucked the water out of the airless stinking sea-mud and turned it into fertile land soil. After five years in a great fire he burnt off the reeds when they were tall and dry. Next year he and his men ploughed the land (often with a mammoth on the plough to break up the close network of tough reed rhizomes), and sowed, and at last harvested a first salt-stunted crop of wheat from land which had long been sunken. In later years he reaped better crops, and made more seafortfields, and more men came to settle on them under his authority. And none of this land was taken from other men. His motto words were "The sunken is reclaimed" or "We again have that which the sea took". They followed the Faith of the Seven. Time passed. Each time a winter ended, as spring warm came, his mammoths shed their long winter hair; they had learned to stand still on order while men combed the sheddings out. It was spun and woven into strong cloth. Some local sea-fishermen tarred such cloth and used it as sea-clothes, as much as could be made. Birds collected loose shed hairs of it and lined nests with it. One of his mammoths calved. At ten months old its calf shed its milk tusks as the tips of its permanent tusks came through. When dark prevented outside work, he carved the milk tusks into seal-stamps, one with his wife's seal sigil on; and the other with his seal sigil on, a rearing horse (presumedly, and later in painted images actually, chestnut-coloured after his first horse), half-emerged from wavy water, as he still had struggles against the fury of the sea; some said that the Ironmen's Drowned God was trying to get back land that he had stolen from the sea. He built a holdfast to keep crops and valuables safe in on a rock that stood up in his reclaimed land by his harbour. Soon after, the current King of Mountain and Vale accepted his family as a Great House, since they now owned much reclaimed land. He made a start at enlarging his holdfast into a castle, which men called Castle Wilmi, in case enemies attacked. Aegon the Conqueror came soon after, and Walitar Sunkland, the current lord in Castle Wilmi, saw Aegon confront Torrhen, last king and first lord of the North. Walitar and his folk accepted the change in rule, and bent the knee accordingly. His descendants remained skilled in land-reclamation, and their services were sometimes called for, on Westeros and occasionally elsewhere. In the reign of King Jaehaerys I, on a somewhat chilly morning with the grass still wet after a day's heavy rain, the people at Castle Wilmi were startled and alarmed to see one of the king's dragons flying in and landing nearby. It was Caraxes, also called the Blood Wyrm, large and red. But its rider, the king's son Aemon, merely called out instruction that one of the Sunkland family who was skilled at land reclamation was needed urgently at King's Landing. Stefin Sunkland, the current lord there, put on a warm winter coat and a big backpack that he kept packed for journeys, and with some dread approached the dragon's ominous bulk, and touched it. Aemon told Stefin which protrusions to use for handhold or footrest to climb up the dragon's left shoulder, and he sat behind its rider Aemon. As it took off, he had the usual shock at first seeing land from high above. Over much of a day, it carried them over the mountainous wilderness around the Vale of Arryn, high above the heads and weapons of the dangerous mountain clans, over the Trident river, and had landing and night rest and food at Harrenhal. Next day they flew over the big lake called the God's Eye, and then along the kingsroad through the Crownlands. The king had organized routine horseback patrols to protect road travellers against gangs, which were escalating to bigger gangs gathering to try to stop bigger better-armed road convoys. In one place Stefin and Aemon both recognised from above something not easily seen from the ground, a large bandit gang spread out waylaying a section of the road. Aemon told Stefin to hold on tight, and swooped Caraxes along the road and flamed out the lurking gang; and travelling in the area for lords and merchants and smallfolk was much safer for a long time after. As they came in to land, he saw so much damage to King's Landing that he asked "Who attacked?", but Aemon told him that the cause was severe weather; it was later found that a heavy thunderstorm had developed over the Westerlands, while a line of heavy squally rain of the sort that brings cold winds in after it swept in from the endlessly wide Sunset Sea, and over the mountains of the Westerlands the rain strip shovelled up the thunderstorm in a huge cloudburst which caused violent flash floods in the headwaters of every river that flowed out including the Blackwater Rush, which carried it east to King's Landing. Over the harbour as Caraxes came down to land by the Red Keep, Stefin saw men struggling to clear the harbour channel of huge piles of boulders and trees and pieces of bridges and watermills that the flood had brought down. They landed, and he followed them into the Red Keep as Caraxes was led back to his stall in the high-domed Dragonpit. An attendant said "Excuse." and grabbed Stefin's left arm, seeing that Stefin was struggling against the urge, common in the Sunkland line, to strip off his lordly robes, revealing underlying work clothes, and rush off to help a nearby group of workmen and carthorses and yoked oxen who were trying to disentangle a jumble of uprooted trees. He was led to the King. As they consulted, a raven, delayed by bad weather, flew in with news about severe flood and storm damage to Lannisport. They discussed. Stefin advised about anti-flood defences. He was called on to help to reclaim and drain a nearby patch of marsh that outlaws had been lurking in; that was done. He advised about a possible system for much better drainage of the city's runoff and foulwater, but this advice was filed and gradually forgotten, as laying it would have disturbed too many rich people's property. Later, after his business there was finished, he went home on a horse, along with a large official party which was going in the same direction. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The endless-looking job of clearing King's Landing harbour of wreckage from Stannis's attack was going on as it could, between delays caused by storms and tide. Everybody and everything that could get to site and pull was there. Cheering and trumpeting announced arrival of five mammoths and their riders brought by Lord Annun Sunkland from his land by The Bite, to help to haul heavy wreckage out of the water, and Annun rode on the first mammoth's hairy neck; he hoped that nobody would feel disrespected by him riding higher above the ground than a royal dragonrider would on the base of his steed's neck walking on the ground on the wrists of its wings and its back feet. Work went on faster after that. Once at extreme low spring tide, everybody was cleared well back away while Nikuli on Bluewings flew over and burnt up a big tangle of wreckage: the only safe way to get to site in time across much foul sinking mud and destroy several unexploded big pots of wildfire that were trapped in it. An explosion of green wildfire flames followed Bluewings all too close as he flew his fastest to get away, but the flames in the end went out, and work carried on. The mammoths made a few noises but proved steady when Nikuli on Bluewings flew near them to drop a rope to men working away from shore on tidal mud, so they could tie it to wreckage to haul it out. Someone said that safer would have been a trebuchet throwing a weight trailing the rope, but none could be found near enough. Nesting birds ventured onto the work site and made good use of shed mammoth hair to line nests.
  25. What mention is there in the books of a dragon being ridden specifically with a saddle or specifically bareback? I read in A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (= Ktot7K ? Not7K ?) that in the Dance of the Dragons, one rider fell to her death because she had fastened herself to her saddle but had not fastened her saddle to her dragon. (The matter of dragon saddles is raised in Eragon.) Saddling a dragon will prove more expensive because adult horses stay the same size but dragons (unless their food intake is closely controlled) keep on growing.
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