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  1. For some reason I was reminded of an old pop song by The Sundays, Here's Where The Story Ends. Something about a "terrible year" and "I synically ... say SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE." Too many poor attempts at surprises the last couple of seasons.
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    the purpose of Dany's arc

    Danny = absolute power corrupts absolutely / hell hath no fury like a woman scorned Sansa = that which does not kill me makes me stronger Jon = no good dead goes unpunished
  3. I gave it 7 though as always with the past couple of seasons or so the more I think about it the worse the rating would get if I waited longer. When thinking about the show as a whole I never considered not watching it like other shows I've enjoyed but drifted away from. So, though I've been disappointed in the last couple of seasons execution writing I'd give the series an 8.5.
  4. One thing that has really bothered me this season regarding Bran is how played up his ability to visit the past as the only source of history. History is by definition knowledge of the past since the dawn of writing. I don't rememberthe Night King burning libraries or books. If knowledge of the past is such a good requirement of a King why not Sam Tarly as King. He's a least applied that knowledge and has shown good character throughout. Bran has no real history of leadership and is as antisocial/emotional detached as they come.
  5. I think we agreed, The use of the word "except" has confused me.
  6. In the show the Targ dynasty was absolute. The North on 2 occasions had the Lords vote a Stark to be their King. The Freefolk chose Mance as their King. There's the Free City of Bravos with unknown form of government formed by free people. Farther East has more varieties of governments. In otherwords there are many in show options to consider, but absolute Monarchy isn't one of them, since it's the status quo. In our world the blending of the Viking Thing government and their legal structure allowed for nobles to assume agency to insist on the Magna Carta. This kicked off the long road to modern democracy, not some fairy tale of a benevolent Monarchy.
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    Foreshadowing is not character development

    An article I read and had started a post on would clear up some of the talking past eachother in this thread. The article is in the Scientific American and is about how the show changes from a sociological perspective of writing to a psychological one and the effect that has on the viewers' perspective of the characters. I think the difference of perspective is what has been driving this thread, the general bad writing aside.
  8. Economic and political systems aren't independent enough from one another to determine one is the independent variable and the other dependent, they feed into each other too much. Eg, the Northern States which would comprise part of the USA abolished slavery for moral reasons. They were economically independent enough such that the cost to do so was low. So both the political will and economic capability were needed for such a drastic change.
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    Unpopular Opinion: Support Daenerys

    Setting aside the terrible writing of the last 2 seasons in particular, the theme of breaking the wheel would require limiting if not out right rejecting the Monarchy as an institution. This would preclude Danny's world view. That said the innocents should have evacuated the Capital back in Season 7 after they saw her armies and Dragons. I certainly would have run for the hills. Instead of going mad queen the results could have easily been the same if she had coldly stated an example must be set and KL raised like the Tywin had done to his enemies and queen C had done to hers as poetic justice.
  10. I've always thought it would end with a Magna Carta type stepping stone towards a division and limitation of powers. It's a bit disturbing people actually think Facsism is a stepping stone towards a form of Democracy.
  11. I'm not sure of the policy on posting external links, so I suggest searching Scientific American and Game of thrones to find the article I'm referring to. In it the author describes how early on GoT was unique in writing from a Sociological perspective compared to the industry norm of a Psychological perspective. Among other things brought up is the latters tendency to drive narratives in a hero vs anti hero perspective. The former provides context allowing for context of external forces and greyer character arcs. By drifting to Psychological perspective the writing went away from what made it relatively unique and the basis for the show's depth.
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