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  1. The little girl Yoren and company find, they end up calling her Weasel - because they can't keep calling her the crying girl - but we never know her real name or even what happened to her after everyone is caught by Gregor's men. And I think it's the same with that one woman who had her arm(?) cut off and can't stop saying "please."
  2. I know they can't get Arya but, hypothetically if they did, I'm honestly wondering where they send Sansa and Arya. Back to Winterfell? Theon and later Ramsey would love that. Stay at Riverrun? Walder Frey certainly likes that.
  3. I've always thought Walder was playing Lord of the Crossing with Robb when they meet just before wedding. "Mayhaps a sausage..."
  4. The same way they see visions in fires?
  5. This topic made me realize Sansa does not have a good relationship with any of her siblings. Maybe you could make an argument that Arya is fond or at least looks up to her a little, but does Sansa ever really meaningfully interact with Robb on the page or even in a memory? I'm seriously at a loss on that one... You're right that Robb isn't very sentimental about Sansa or Arya. If we completely take sentimentality out of it (which isn't much) completely, Sansa and Arya are not worth enough by themselves for a major trade. Like they say in the book, Sansa and Arya can't lead armies, can't fight, can't do much at all besides get married and shore up alliances. The Lannisters know that and Tywin nips that in the bud. Jamie can fight like no other and can lead armies. Having him back in the field is just plain dangerous to Northern survival and pride. And any trade with the Lannister's will involve the North's surrender, subjugation, and more hostages which they will never accept. It's a tough cold stance to take but I think Robb (and basically everybody but Cat) was right. The only thing valuable enough to the Lannister's to trade the girls outright and with no other conditions is Jaime and he is far too valuable for that.
  6. It is interesting to wonder what will happen with Jaime when he reaches Stoneheart. Will she allow him trial by combat? Would he be allowed a champion? Would he even want one if offered? Who would he fight? Would SH make Brienne her champion? Will he be allowed to use Oathkeeper? Would his opponent?
  7. This topic kinda inspires me to copy paste a similar topic I made on a different board. I may actually make the topic so I won't post the question here. For my two cents, Tywin is good in the big picture. In the little pictures, Tywin is an arrogant pride obsessed sociopath. He honestly reminds me of Michael Corleone. A good man trying to do the right thing that ends up doing terrible things to protect his family. That comparison largely holds up well but even Michael Corleone wouldn't have had such an irrational hatred towards his own son. Michael also had a rebellious child and let him go his own way once the kid had the balls to demand it. Tywin...not so much. He will not let anyone deviate from the plans he has for them. And largely because his plans are the right ones. But the personalities involved complicate the shit out of obvious alliances. You can almost justify everything Tywin does, brutal as it is, but there is absolutely no justification for him blaming Tyrion for his wife's death nor what he did to Tysha. Tywin is a brilliant man but he must have some very closely held belief in vengeance as that was how he started his whole life. I also don't think he gave the order to rape and murder Elia Martell. To make a long story short, I think he was recklessly indifferent towards her and didn't care if she died but he never gave a direct order to do what happened. That's Gregor and Lorch going wild and exceeding instruction. Just speculating, yall.
  8. Lysa killed Jon Arryn at LF's insistence and, more importantly, because Robin was going to be taken away from her to foster at Dragonstone with Stannis. Lysa is pretty stupid and weak willed but there is nothing more dangerous in nature than a mother defending her children. LF's timing is opportune and swift as always. He doesn't so much as create opportunities for himself as he waits for them to happen and then he steers the events as much as he can. "Chaos is a ladder." (I know thats only from the show but that line was from when GRRM was still heavily involved with the show and very much in line with book LF.)
  9. I've always thought Petyr's backstory with Cat was pretty interesting in how it ties so many things together, as Lysa reveals. And how it really does humanize even a mustache twirling scumbag like Littlefinger. Catelyn and Ned were fools to trust Petyr at all after how Cat left things with him. Petyr fought a duel for her, was willing to die for her, and was most likely willing to kill for her. He was very young, madly in love, and Petyr never really came to terms with Cat's rejection until he was sent away and she utterly abandoned their relationship. From what I recall, Petyr was in his sick bed at Riverrun for quite a while. That's a pretty long miserable time, surrounded by people who hate/are embarrassed by you, to dwell on romantic disillusionment and the fact he's about to be sent back to his shit hole estates on the Fingers, probably for good from his pov at the time, since he just ruined his reputation. If it weren't for Lysa maybe he would never have risen as high as he did. Certainly not as fast. I think when Cat never returned the letter he sent after Brandon died finally killed any final hopes Petyr might have had about reconciling and eventually marrying Cat. At some point after that he became the bitter, scheming, vengeful, sardonic asshole we see in the books. You can empathize with him a little. He reminds me a little bit of myself around my high school days. You see the movies (songs for Petyr) where they do big showy public gestures of affection/love to get the girl and it works. Then you try something similar and it totally backfires, embarasses everybody involved, and makes you look like a jackass. Plus he knocked up her sister in drunken denial/mistake. Cat was put in a pretty tough situation by Petyr, but she probably really did consider him like a little brother back then, and she was pretty cold after everything that happened. I'm not sure if part of him still loves Cat and he sees her in Sansa or if using Sansa is fueled only by revenge for what he thinks she did to him.
  10. Im sorry but no matter what plans the Wildlings have made they still need to overcome or bypass the Wall. Rangers won't tell/be able to stop anything once it happens. Start one blast, you have the whole Wall, to defend once they've decided to do it. Mance and the free folks aren't totally naive with the dragon glass. But that doest explain why wights and white walkers are familiar to NW. If anything, the northernmost South kindgoms are gonna get raped and pillaged so fast nobody will have time to wonder why the North was leading them down to the Neck.
  11. So for the last couple thousand years the Night's Watch Rangers division is almost exclusively used for the purpose of scouting beyond The Wall constantly to give them intel on the wildlings. I can understand why they would do that when the Night's Watch was in it's prime and they had many thousands of men: ergo they could afford to lose a a couple dozen men without leaving the wall in jeopardy. Fast forward to the time period of ASoIaF and the watch is critically under-manned. They have been abandoning castles for hundreds of years because they don't have the men to garrison them so they just straight up leave them unmanned and undefended. Personnel, after food, has become the most critical need of the NW. Yet somehow, the Night's Watch keeps sending out their most capable or promising warriors/scouts to "scout" for what the Wildlings are up to. Why? What possible information could they tell the lord commander that is worth the lives of their most capable warriors? The wildlings are angry? A warrior chief has united them? They plan to attack the Wall (duh)? Honestly, how is any of that information worth the lives of their small pool of men, much less their best warriors? The Wildlings have no resources worth taking. The Night's Watch needs to maintain their personnel to even hold the wall so why is it so important they have "scouts"? Seriously, no matter what happens, the endgame of any Wilding (or any Other enemy) strategy is to attack The Wall or go around it. The Horn of Joramund, if they even knew about it, is considered a myth, hardly worth taking seriously. Just like the Others. Geor Mormont took 1/3 of the entire Night's Watch's, a lot of their best included, to be killed for absolutely no reason. Jon didnt seal the gate and (most likely) killed Alliser and a few other scouts (good ones too so Jon says) for no reason. The lord commanders complain about being "blind" without their rangers. Blind to what? Blind to wildlings scratching out a meager existence while once every hundred years they decide to band together? TLDR: Wildlings have few to no resources and will try to pass The Wall through attack or stealth. Men on the Wall are ideal for spotting and defending both. What use are Rangers?
  12. This topic and your suggestion reminds me a lot of the scene between Agent Smith and Morpheus in the first Matrix movie. Agent Smith: "I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure." There is some truth in there but "better" is a matter of perspective, imo. I want to articulate this thought in my own words but George Carlin said it best about this depreciating but ultimately self-important line of thinking people seem to have. "The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!" "Saving endangered species is just one more arrogant attempt by humans to control nature. It’s arrogant meddling; it’s what got us in trouble in the first place. Doesn’t anybody understand that? Interfering with nature. Over 90% – over, WAY over – 90% of all the species that have ever lived on this planet, ever lived, are gone! Pwwt! They’re extinct! We didn’t kill them all, they just disappeared. That’s what nature does. They disappear these days at the rate of 25 a day and I mean regardless of our behaviour."
  13. Tywin allowing Selmy to save Aerys II at Duskendale. If Aerys dies there the Rebellion never happens or is at least stalled for a long while, Jon Snow and Danaerys aren't born, dragons aren't reborn, and the Others likely run into a more populated but far less prepared Seven Kingdoms.
  14. I don't think it will be Arya but she's a suspect. I don't think she really cares about small folk unless they are useful to her. When she and the Hound are in that village by the Vale she says she hates the villagers because they're cowards and has that little episode with the elders daughter where she rips up her soldier doll. I don't think she'll use the wildfire because it isn't personal enough and Arya wants the pure satisfaction of fulfilling her revenge by sticking the knife in herself and watching the light go out of their eyes. A giant explosion where she wouldn't even see them dying/dead wouldn't achieve that. My money is on Cersei. Her only reason for living, now that she can't rule outright, is Tomme and Myrcella. Once they are dead I could definitely see her going out suicidal like that to kill whoever she thought was responsible.
  15. Thats a nice timetable and parts of it could be accurate but we really can't know for sure what was happening during individual hours of the day like that. And Cersei seems to agree that Sansa's tip off was integral to how she executed her plan. "No one had given Cersei such a lovely gift since Sansa Stark had run to her to divulge Lord Eddard's plans." I can't give the exact page and chapter citation but thats from Feast during the chapter when Loras volunteers to storm Dragon Stone to free up the Redwyne fleet. I agree Sansa didn't know exactly what was gonna happen by telling Cersei but all that means to me is that she is slightly less morally culpable in that she didn't intentionally want them all dead. Sorta like a drunk driver doesn't intend to kill somebody but does anyway.
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