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    The whole "Tower of Joy" story is flawed

    BTW why did Robert apparently never consider that Lyanna might get punished for the death of Rhaegar’s children even though she was supposedly still a captive of some remaining Targaryen loyalists? In Sansa’s, Jaime’s and other cases, this is quite important. So when Robert saw the bodies, one would expect that he’d get angry at Tywin for endangering Lyanna. ???
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    What is the importance of the Hrakkar, the White Lion?

    I don’t know if this association is intentional, but some of the animal pelts that appear throughout the books seem to be a combination of the sigil of one family/ person/ institution, and the field colour of another, like... White lion (Dany) = Lannister + Stark Red wolf (Jon Con) = Stark + Lannister/ Blackfyre (?) Shadowcat (Tyrion) = Night’s watch/Benjen + Catelyn A fusion of the foes/ people they encountered or that otherwise have influenced their storyline? Or alternatively past and future houses/ alliances/ marriages? It definitely reminds me of the westerosi wedding ceremony... Alys’ wedding in particular, since her cloak is also a combination of 2 families
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    Poll: Answer 10 mysteries of asoiaf

    1. Either we will never know or Tyrion actually killed her and has himself created a false memory. 2. Lyanna 3. Multiple people, including the Green Grace 4. Lyanna; it would be kind of funny if she became pregnant with a daughter while already pregnant- would explain the timeline 5. A Blackfyre descendant, probably Illyrio’s relative 6. Ramsay 7. Little Walder; my current guess is that Mance gave him some info, the rest he learned from Clydas, who is actually a bastard brother of Lord Frey (both are chinless) and is now sending secret messages to Lord Bolton. LW did it to appeal to Ramsay, who then killed him when he learned about it. 8. Craster’s father 9. A Stark loyalist, maybe Harwin 10. A concept
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    How do you think Tommen and Myrcella will die?

    Is there no way to avoid infanticide? Maybe some sort of Romeo and Juliet -like sham death?
  5. I didn’t know this detail about Merlin’s death (thanks a lot!) and now that you mention it, this also somehow resembles the story of Lyanna and Robb in A song for Lya. Could it be possible that SS joined the Weirwood network before him and BR simply wanted to be with her forever?
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    So where would you live ?

    The Neck: largely unmapped, can’t be invaded by armies, plus interesting flora and fauna... and from time to time you might get the chance to shoot arrows at some Freys who make the mistake to come to close to your lands
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    Jon being resurrected?

    Do we know how the wight curse is transferred? For Catelyn’s revival all it needed was a kiss from someone who has been previously revived as a fire wight. So if the two bodies that Jon brought with him south of the wall were to rise .....and Bowen & co decided to store his body in the same cell...... ? On the other hand I think they would already have had blue eyes at the time they were found if they were supposed to be become wights.
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    Stannis wrote the Pink Letter. Clydas changed it

    But to come back to the original topic of this thread: Could the ‘pink-eyed mole’ indeed be what his description implies: A spy of the pink Lord? Why not? It is also interesting that he can read and write, suggesting that he is not a nobody, and yet we do not know his family name...? BTW are there any other characters except for Clydas and the Freys who are described as “chinless“?
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    The perfumed seneschal

    I personally think the perfumed Seneschal is another universal symbol that is used to link the different story lines with each other, just like bells are used throughout multiple books and storylines as a symbol of impending doom: “Mind the bells. Those who come late to meals won’t eat.” That’s what Masha says to Catelyn back in book 1. This line clearly foreshadows the red wedding, but it actually applies to many other situations just as well, e.g. Cressen and Patchface, Dany and the Dothraki, Jon Connington and the Battle of the Bells.... Therefore I suppose that each character who is at this point in the story close to one of the Seneschal candidates should beware of him/ her... or should have been ... like Kevan with Varys, Dany with Reznak, Tyrion with the SQ.... so Samwell might do better in the next book to mistrust the Seneschal of the Citadel as well?
  10. I was referring to fArya, Alys and Barra
  11. “What is the life of one (girl) against a kingdom?” “Everything.” Davos, ASoS
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    Seeing the bigger bigger picture.

    That we are all half rotten onions?
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    Strangest Possible Ending

    Or how about this one: Lady Ermesande turns out to be the reincarnation of the Night’s queen (her birth roughly coincides with the increase in missing rangers). Her husband Tyrek noticed that his wife was acting strange, therefore she disposed of him in the chaos of the riots. Killing her will put an end to the attacks of WW. I always found this baby suspicious. She is always around when bad things happen. Also her name resembles Melisandre - and I don’t trust her either....
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    Stannis wrote the Pink Letter. Clydas changed it

    Right now it seems as if Stannis wants to go with the second option. At least, if he wanted to install him as the new Lord of Pyke he wouldn’t have chained him to the wall like a criminal. Therefore I think Theon has to give him a good reason to spare his life. The main reason why I thought the letter was Theon’s own plan and that Stannis just sort of gave him permission to sent it is this quote from the sample chapter: “Unchain me, and I will serve you.” This just reminded me of the scene where Theon finds Reek. It would be funny if the whole story would repeat itself. Oh, and then there is also this scene in ASoS when Jon remembers during the fight at castle Black how Theon once told him that he preferred to kill with goose feathers. Though of course this does not necessarily mean that he has to be the author of the letter that kills him. Yes, I agree that this is the main argument against Theon being the author. On the other hand, he still hasn’t revealed that Bran and Rickon are still alive... so maybe he will use that as his wildcard? In the end I just hope that the letter will turn out to be a fake, one way or another... If I had to assign one scene to each character in the books that reflects their personality, for Stannis I would choose the one in which Pylos reads out the first draft of the letter about Joffrey’s parentage and he just tells him to change “my beloved brother Robert” to simply “my brother Robert” as there was no love between them. For me this scene just perfectly reflects his nature. Of course some of his decisions later on contradict with this, but I believe that he was only able to do all these things because of Melisandre’s influence. Like when his wife and the queen’s men all urge him to burn Edric, he initially dismisses the idea, telling them that they are idiots to believe in magic- then Melisandre only touches him and all of a sudden he starts talking about how marvellous it would be to ride a dragon. Here he appears a bit like the fire version of the Night’s king (“when he gave her his seed he gave his soul as well”). But I still think that, as long as Melisandre is not around to direct his actions, he tends to fall back into his old behavioural patterns. I don’t deny that he also used certain ruses in the past, I only meant that I can’t see him dictating phrases like “... I made him a cloak from the skins of the six wildling women...”. I also believe that he would need someone else to propose the basic plan because he seems to be incapable of talking about such things straightforward. Instead he avoids the names of his ‘victims’ and grinds his teeth. He is repelled by people like Theon who have betrayed and deceived others. Doing the same things as them makes him feel ashamed, it destroys him mentally. Thus, I assumed that if he had anything to do with the letter he would need someone else to act as his ‘devil on his shoulder’. PS: Does anybody know if the Citadel teaches dentistry as well? Because if he continues to grind his teeth all the time Stannis will surely need a dentist by the end of the series...
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    Dragon Eggs in Winterfell

    I am wondering why GRRM wastes half a page of Bran’s final chapter in ACoK on the description of Winterfell’s First Keep that was destroyed by the fire. He even describes the privy that can now be seen from the outside because the walls are missing. Aren’t there other things to worry about? Like all the people you used to grow up with that are probably dead now? Or Master Luwin slowly dying in the godswood?? Then I combined the information: Large Serpent (the thing that Summer sees in the sky) + toilet = Harry Potter & TCoS Only conclusion possible: Winterfell must have a secret underground chamber in which somebody hid a giant serpent (i.e. dragon) that now broke free. The first keep was the entrance- therefore it was abandoned. only question that remains: who is the heir that can control it.... and who are it’s enemies?
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    Maybe after she ran away from Lommy Greenhands she was taken in by the Green Men? Just like Arya with the Faceless Men?
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    Stannis wrote the Pink Letter. Clydas changed it

    I don’t see Theon on this list? He is the only one who knows all about both Ramsay and Stannis, e.g. Mance, the flaming sword, the stolen bride... If he wrote it, it would also explain why there was no skin attached to the letter. Also, some parts of the letter match Theon’s thoughts word for word- thoughts that he never said out loud. Then, he also hears Stannis saying to Justin that people may spread false information about his death. He could have come up with this idea after this conversation. And most importantly, he has to show Stannis his worth or he will be killed. I don’t think Stannis would be capable of coming up with such a twisted plan by himself. The author of the letter knows how to manipulate people, and Stannis is just not the type for that. However, assuming that Stannis still wants Jon for the position of Lord of Winterfell, Theon might have offered to write a letter to Jon that would make him leave the Wall. Theon knows him (or thinks he knows him): In his eyes, Jon is proud and (same as Ramsay) dislikes being called a bastard. He knows what he has to say to provoke him. Stannis most likely wouldn’t have been fond of such tricks, but still might have agreed to Theon’s plan (while grinding his teeth), hoping that Jon would bring his wildlings, and afterwards hold Winterfell for him (at least temporarily, and who knows what he will do once he is at home again). As for the part about Val and the prince, he may have learned about these two from his sister or Stannis’ soldiers, or maybe Stannis himself. He could have mentioned his plans for Jon and Val while Theon was listening. It wouldn’t have been difficult for Theon to figure out that Val is important to Jon as well. Then, Theon might have interrupted him, saying that he could convince him to come to Winterfell. Wouldn’t this solve the whole contradiction regarding Stannis’ personality? Moreover I think it would fit to GM’s writing style: One character does something to save his own skin / or to do a good deed, and thereby unintentionally harms another main character. Just like when Arya freed Rorge and Biter, who would later on join the Bloody Mummers.
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    My Cold Hands Theory: Jon Snow

    Could GRRM have given us a hint of his identity via Tyrion’s song? Or has his relation to the story of the 99 sentinels and the father who later on joined his son in death been discussed before? Could he be Craster’s father, the crow who rejected his son? Did his mother curse him as punishment? People always say that Craster’s blood is black. Maybe we can interpret this also as that his Blood’s blood is black, i. e. frozen?
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    Predicting and Gambling

    Jon is the one who will help Lady Stoneheart to turn back into Catelyn
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    There's Something about Leaf

    Alternatively, this passage could also mean that she learned the common tongue for another little boy named Bran... potentially his ancestor? That would imply that the Starks had connections to the CoTF till recently. What if Leaf is afraid that our Bran might come into contact with these old Starks? This is just another tinfoil theory, but what if there really was once before a Brandon Stark who became a Greenseer, but wanted to use this power to become immortal (usually in fantasy novels there always is a foe who wants to be immortal)... maybe he started to take over the bodies of other humans or only Starks? We hear a couple of times from different characters that warging into humans is a severe sin, so what if this is based on an actual case? Maybe there is someone like that.... an anti-Bloodraven?
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    Strangest Possible Ending

    Melisandre decides to burn Shireen to save Stannis from the Boltons. However, Shireen was already meant to be an offering to the Deep ones, who turned Patchface into a water wight and sent him out to find the daughter of the Lord of Storm’s End. Feeling cheated by the fire god, the Deep Ones join hands with the WW. They help them to cross the sea to reach Essos, where they destroy the main temple of the Lord of light. Then they launch a great war against Asshai and the dragons that will keep them busy for the next 100 years. Meanwhile Bran discovers the secret powers of the Weirwood trees: They can move! He convinces the half-dead CotF in the cave to lead their Weirwood-Ent soldiers into battle against the enemies of the old gods. All over the 7 kingdoms the remaining trees come to life to join them. Bran himself takes control over the Weirwood of Winterfell and commands their main forces. They succeed and the North becomes once more and independent kingdom. The end.
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    Jon's resurrection

    It might help to look at it from a theoretical perspective: According to Leemings theory of the monomyth, first is the hero‘s death, followed by his descent to the underworld, and finally, his rebirth and ascension. Applying that to Jon‘s arc, this could mean that he first has to spent some time as Ghost (the name fits at least) before being reborn. During this time he might already learn about his parents, like in a meeting with the other ghosts of his past in the underworld (crypts?). In fact, learning about his true identity might then trigger his rebirth... or something like that? Anyway I think that Val will somehow be crucial for his story.
  23. The rumor of Lyanna‘s abduction couldn’t have spread through some commoners who might have seen them travelling south, because in AGoT the people (who got attacked by G Clegane) didn’t even realise that Ned is not the king, despite wearing the colours of House Stark. Similarly, the Mallisters did not recognise Cat when they met on the kingsroad. Hence, even if people saw Lyanna and Rhaegar on the road, they probably would have said something like „hey, guess what, today I saw the prince riding south with some pretty girl, was that his wife? Wasn’t she from Dorne? This one didn’t look like it though...“ So Brandon must have learned about them through someone who knew her personally (as long as they didn’t carry like large banners or shields with them). Do we know what Howland Reed did all this time after the tournament?
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    Elia Martell: Yes, another Septa Lemore speculation

    I somehow always assumed that she is the mother of Tyene.... wasn’t her mother also a septa? Though in that case she probably dyed her hair because Tyene is blond if I remember correctly
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    Events you are most looking forward to see in TWOW

    Wun Wun. I really hope he will make it to the end.