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  1. Sansa's always been a favourite of mine, so I'm thrilled with her ending. She's campaigned tirelessly for Northern independence in the last few seasons (and I think she will in the books, too). She was also in King's Landing to get Jon out of jail and back home, where he belongs. I take that to mean she also wanted him reinstated as King in the North, but that wasn't to be. And I'm glad. She deserves this, Winterfell is hers. The North is hers. She's a great ruler and will be a great Queen. I've spent more time than I care to remember defending her in various FB groups etc. The hate directed at her from the start has been completely irrational and unjustified, which only made me love her character more. And this is more than vindication. She's the best!
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    Jon was probably happiest when beyond the wall and it seems like he can travel south to visit Winterfell on occasion. So I think it sounds like he got a good deal, tbh.
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    Yeah, that's nonsense. Dany was fully responsible for her own actions. Dany alone.
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    I was wondering that. And now Sansa is Queen in the North, too. She could pardon him,
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    Queen in the North?
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    I can't watch it yet, but this spoiler thread is getting me all kinds of excited for tomorrow night. Glad that Sansa appears to have showed up.
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    Unpopular Opinion: Support Daenerys

    I don't recall reading about Elizabeth I burning London to the ground and slaughtering most of its citizens, though.
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    This ending is nothing but Bitter

    I was really down about the ending, when I first read it. It sounded pretty awful, especially in sparse bullet-point form. But I think Sansa will be great in the North (and it sounds like the North is getting its independence). Jon will enjoy being back at Castle Black and among his old friends north of the wall. If he is rebuilding the NW, it will be much different thing to the one he joined - the enmity between the Watch and the Freefolk will be gone, relations will be much improved etc, etc. Moreover, Jon can go south and visit his sister in Winterfell whenever the fancy takes him. Although there's no time to show Sansa's future, she will presumably land a good match and bear the next generation of Starks. Beyond the Starks, I have no idea who will be doing what. I'll have to wait and see, in that regard. But for the Starks at least, it all seems okay-ish.
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    Thoughts on Arya possibly dying/failing to kill Dany?

    Don't get me wrong, it was a beautiful scene especially Tyrion's chivalrous hand-kiss, just like the chivalry she dreamed of as a girl. But if they had followed that moment with the two of them going out there and taking down wights, like a pair of badasses, it would have been even better. However, given the nature of Sansa haters, they probably would have just condemned her as a cold-blooded kinslayer (they were her ancestors after all).
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    Thoughts on Arya possibly dying/failing to kill Dany?

    Sansa's already used the dragonglass dagger Arya gave her. She and Tyrion were killing wights in the crypts, but they cut the scene. It seemed they preferred another mean girls moment with her, rather than show her actually doing something cool. This is actually my biggest complaint about that episode. I would have loved to actually see her and Tyrion taking down wights rather than cowering behind Ned's tomb.
  11. At some point, between episodes 3 and 4, I realised I just don't care anymore and went looking for leaks and spoilers. Until then I'd been very careful to avoid them, staying off social media etc until Monday nights, when the eps aired in the UK. But then I thought reading the leaks would help me brace myself for just how crappy it's about to get. I think it has softened the impact, tbh. To the point where I'm generally okay with where they're going.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Yes, it was the statement that Jon is "exiled" as punishment for killing Dany that made it feel like he was being tossed out of the realm, never to return. But that might not be the case, especially if he just chooses to be with the freefolk - which is entirely reasonable. As for the Night's Watch - I'm guessing the threat will never truly be gone? I mean, they all thought the Others were a fantasy for hundreds (possibly thousands?) of years. Now they don't want to let their guard down and make the same mistake of complacency? Realistically, though, I think you're probably right and we won't get a full explanation of that.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    The more I think about it, the more I do warm to it. And yes, it's definitely better than Jon being dead and/or shackled to Dany for all eternity. If he does restart the Night's Watch, I daresay it will be a totally different thing to what came before it. Jon can end the enmity between the freefolk and the southerners. Perhaps, even, he could pave the way for proper trade relations between the far north and their southerly neighbours? And I don't think Jon would be truly exiled, either. He will still be free to visit Winterfell and check in on Sansa etc. I think that was what made me feel a little sad: the implication that he'd never see his home or his family again.
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    Jon's biggest error?

    But he ratted Sansa and Varys out. Had he acted properly and helped Varys, he could have prevented what happened. Instead, he enabled it, just as Jon did.
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    Jon's biggest error?

    And what would that have achieved? Hate Sansa all you like, many people do. But Sansa's the only character left with a bit of sense. Had Tyrion listened to her, he could have avoided what happened in King's Landing. As for Jon, he's thick as a brick and without Sansa covering for him, he'd have been lost a long time ago.
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    Have people given up all hope?

    Concurred. I've seen the leaks and the ending is pretty grim, they've totally cut the "sweet" from "bittersweet". But yeah, I am glad Dany has shown her true colours and she'll not be ruling over the seven kingdoms and burning anyone who looks at her funny. That's the only silver lining on this.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    IMO the grimmest part of those leaks is Jon rejoining the Night's Watch (do they even still exist? what's their new purpose?) and Bran as King. Jon being sent off into exile is a pretty crap ending for such an important character, who has done and given so much. That's pretty depressing, tbh. Bran on the throne is pure WTF. I don't think anyone watched the show hoping he'd be the one to win the Game of Thrones, tbh.
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    So what happens to Drogon?

    I'm not disputing how it was done in the show. Nor did I say it was ridiculous. To go back to my original comment, I just said that because there's no NK in the books, Arya won't be the one to kill it. That's not a reflection on my feelings about the show. Arya killed the NK: great. Not what I expected, but it's cool. Nor did I say anything about the story GRRM gave us, or what I expected it to be. The only comments I've read from him about this matter is his stating the Night King we know from the books, that is the 13th LC, is long dead and not coming back (if he ever truly existed at all). I know that's a different NK from the one on the show, before you go there. Again, I haven't picked up on any evidence for there being a NK in the books, nor have I seen it theorised. I'm open to the idea. Meanwhile, I feel like you're deliberately putting words in my mouth here and then twisting those things I didn't say to make it seem like I have some kind of chip on my shoulder. So, I'm disengaging now.
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    This is all Jon’s fault

    That doesn't explain why Dany torched an entire city and just about everyone in it. The Northerners are cold toward outsiders. Lots of places are a bit tetchy around outsiders. That has little to no bearing on Dany going ape.
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    This is all Jon’s fault

    You're basically saying Dany went on a rampage because Jon wouldn't screw her. Do you know how insulting that actually is (to Dany)? I think I already replied to this thread, but this needed addressing. What Dany did is entirely on her and her alone.
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    Thank you Dothraki

    I'm finding the Dothraki situation really confusing. We saw them all die in the Battle for Winterfell. D&D said they were extinct. But they were suddenly back in time for the Bells and they're also in the preview for next week's episode. Or, at least, there's people waving arakhs around. Has there been any clarification on this? It's weird.
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    So what happens to Drogon?

    There is nothing rude in pointing out that, as yet, there is no Night King in the books. It's weird that anyone would find a statement of fact as "rude", but whatever. The Great Other does appear to be the leader of the Others, though. Melisandre certainly fears him/it. If Arya is the one to kill the Great Other, then cool. I just don't think the solution is going to be anywhere near as quick and easy as it was in the show.
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    So what happens to Drogon?

    Being rude to people who disagree with you is also pretty lame. If, and I mean 'if', you're right and the Night King appears, I'll reconsider. For now, I'll keep my money on the Great Other, thanks.
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    This is all Jon’s fault

    Dany's actions are Dany's fault. No one else's. She has her own mind, her own agency, her own way of doing things. Saying Jon should have screwed her to keep her sweet ... now that would be atrocious writing and atrocious behaviour. All along, Dany has categorically stated she was going to burn down cities and smash stone castles etc. She reiterated it to the Dothraki a few seasons ago. Now she's doing exactly what she said she'd do. Then she allowed her men to Sack KL once they had their victory - as happened after most medieval battles (and non-medieval ones, quite frankly: look at what the Russians did in Berlin). How people can say this has come out of nowhere is beyond me.
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    So what happens to Drogon?

    Except there is no Night King in the books.
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