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    Summerhall tragedy - new theory

    I would agree with you had GRRM concluded all his intended work on Egg's story, however we know for a fact that he intends to write at least 3-6 more Dunk & Egg stories. It's hardly surprising that we haven't seen a 10 year old character openly discussing child sacrifice. As @The Drunkard commented above, basically the only things we've gotten regarding older Egg certainly seem to suggest a possible turn towards madness with a dragonfire obsession. I have to imagine the future installments (if we ever get them) will start heading in this direction, which would explain why George has kept Summerhall such a mystery.
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    Summerhall tragedy - new theory

    Why are you so sure Egg wouldn't? Who knows how he changes over the years, we get very little from World of Ice and Fire and what we do get seems pretty bad.
  3. Dreamfyre was full-size, though all the dragons were chained. Just the fact they got (I believe) thousands in a mob is what I'm pointing out.
  4. It's not that she'll actually never be loved, it's that she believes that which is an important difference. She's already expressed that that's in her head with the conversation with Jon in Winterfell, and she's signposted what her (admittedly unrealistic) standard for that is by comparing the Mereneese to the people of KL. I certainly don't think it's impossible she'd be loved, but that's a character flaw and what makes it so tragic.
  5. Hard to believe it's the same city where The Shepherd got a mob big enough to kill literal dragons.
  6. Now that's a great question. I had major problems with Cersei just sitting the throne after she blows up Game of Thrones Vatican + Pope. I guess we're supposed to believe the people of King's Landing believe in Cersei's word that a "foreign whore" with an army of "savages" is coming to pillage them, which I guess ended up being warranted in a weird circular way.
  7. In her eyes, she did everything for them. She came to Westeros seeing herself as a savior, promising to free them from tyranny yet they didn't rise up. She went North and sacrificed so much to fight the Night King in defense of the people. Then she freed them from the ultimate tyrant in Cersei Lannister, but they still didn't praise her like the Mereneese slaves did. Of course, we can argue to the merits of each of these cases and whether her motivations were so selfless, but it's pretty clear that this is how she sees it. She gave these people everything yet they refuse to show her love-the only thing she truly wants-so she snaps.
  8. Her conversation with Jon last episode makes it clear her goal isn't a military victory -- that much is basically confirmed. She wants to be seen as queen like the Mhysa scenes in Meeren. Despite taking the Iron Throne and being successful in that sense, her failure is in coping with the fact that she'll never achieve her true goal of being a beloved queen in the eyes of the people. It's an internal failure I'm talking about, to recognize her temper/madness and choose a more peaceful path. As a certain writer might put it, the human heart in conflict with itself.
  9. I think this is part of why she snapped. Sure, she won the throne, but that wasn't really what she wanted. She dreamed of the smallfolk with Targaryen banners exalting her return. She directly expressed to Jon just one episode ago how the people of Westeros don't look at her that way, only towards Jon. The Throne doesn't matter, what she wants is to be seen and wanted as the queen. Otherwise she's no better than Cersei. So when she takes the Iron Throne, but the people remain unstirred, she's completely exhausted her options and accepts the finality of it. There's nothing else she can do to earn the love of the people, she'll never achieve her goal and she snaps.
  10. Until she failed. Her character has flaws and nuance, like every other one. Cersei has remained cold and calculating from the start, until she lost. Arya's been completely hell-bent on revenge, until she wasn't. Ser Gregor won every fight he was in, until he didn't. Silly to expect that because "welp she got through bad stuff before!" she must be able to process all of those things and not snap. That temper has always been there, and it got pushed to the extreme.
  11. Here's a running tally of everything Danaerys lost/is confronted with over this season: Has to fight her child who was brought back from the dead Watches nearly her entire Dothraki force who she brought all the way from their homeland evaporate Loses her most trusted advisor and the only person who'd been with her from the start Despite this sacrifice she is still distrusted and disliked by the North Has her entire identity shattered by discovering the man she loves has a better claim than she does It becomes obvious to her that her lover is the only Kingly person in the eyes of Westerosi people Loses another one of her children Has her remaining fleet shattered Watches her dearest friend get executed Is betrayed (in her eyes) by her only remaining allies when Jon, Tyrion, and Varys share Jon's parentage Her Master of Whisperers plots treason against her Her love rejects her She finally wins the war for the Seven Kingdoms, but doesn't get what she wanted the whole time: the love of the people, recognizing it's Jon who's receiving this And of course, all of this builds on losing Drogo, Viserion, and Vyserys in previous seasons. All of it amounted to failure in the end. It's compounding.
  12. The show hasn't shown Danaerys go this far, but it has consistently shown she has a terrible temper and is quick to jump to irrational decisions when angry. It's the counsel of the wise people around her (Selmy, Jorah, Tyrion, Varys, Jon) that keeps her from doing this. What we've never seen is Dany pushed this far. Nothing about this situation is typical, given everything she's been through recently. Sure, Dany has never been shown to murder civilians, but she's been shown to have a temper and this situation is clearly far more extreme than anything she's ever endured before. Of course her reaction also has to be unprecedented to properly match it.
  13. This is the important point that keeps getting glossed over. Dany won the battle but that's not what her goal was. It was her last chance and opportunity to finally be faced with the love she inspired in adventures before Westeros. What else can she do? In her view, she's saved the realm from certain death in the North and liberated King's Landing from a tyrant. Her war is won, but she doesn't have what she desires. There's nothing else she can do and the reality of that hits her and pushes her to the breaking point.
  14. Cue to the Dothraki riding through KL cutting down random women and children.
  15. Sure. She also could have just not burnt anything. But that's not really the point of the scene -- obviously it makes no sense to critique the outcome based on what Dany should have done based on reason. Clearly we're not led to believe she chose to do what she did out of strategy. I totally understand criticism that she wouldn't have snapped like she did, but I don't really get critiquing the strategy because it obviously wasn't a strategic decision.
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