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  1. Kaapstad

    The Iron Throne Episode script is out

    Yeah its still ambiguous unfortunately. We don't know if he went to join the wildlings or if he is still in the NW
  2. Kaapstad

    The Iron Throne Episode script is out

    You can download it here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420666514971033621/606860946689753099/Game_of_Thrones_-_Ep_806_-_The_Iron_Throne_.pdf
  3. https://m.emmys.com/sites/default/files/collateral/Game of Thrones - Ep 806 - The Iron Throne .pdf Its an interesting read. It says Yara supported Bran because of Theon. Jon did not entirely forgive Sansa for her betrayal. It also seems to suggest that Jon did not leave the NW to stay with the wildlings
  4. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    The only reason his exile still feels like a punishment is because of the Nights Watch outfit. Jon only breaks his oaths for very serious reasons. He left back in Season 6 because he felt he himself was the injured party. He tried very hard not to break his oath to Dany but when seemed intent on burning down everything he was forced to break it. I think Grey Worm knew he was blindly following orders but deep down what he was doing was wrong. That’s why he probably didn’t kill Jon right off the bat the moment he knew of their murder So although nothing may be keeping him from just going out there and becoming King beyond the wall and enjoy with the people he respects, it’s possible he feels he needs to be punished a little for what he did and stay in the NW with whatever purpose it has. It isn’t clear. The more I feel he is with the NW, turns I start to feel he is with the wildlings. I guess we may learn the answer on the 16th of July when the entire Episode 6 script releases so we get more information on the NW and where exactly Jon is at the end.
  5. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    I think the Unsullied leave without bothering to put a check on Jon probably because Grey Worm knows Jon is an honourable man and would not break an official order. Or maybe Dorne and Iron Islands agreed to check on him for GW. If it’s the former, it kind of makes Jon look bad for breaking his honour. If it’s the latter, both Dorne and Iron Islands decided to say "Fuck it" rather than stay loyal to a corpse and let Jon go away. I think if the wildlings end is really true the last scene of him is indeed that he is a deserter so coming back south isn’t going to break any more rules as far as he is concerned. I don’t think Sansa even cares to enforce anything when it comes to Jon as she was ready to go to war for him. Yeah. The ending is very similar to Arya but for Jon is even more depressing as Arya would likely make many new friends while Jon just disappears all alone. But it’s the only way to make sense of that glance back at the door and the NW uniform without contradicting each other. The glance back is his last look at human civilisation before he rides off. The only reasoning for the NK to king Bran was that the NK didn’t just want to rule Westeros, he wanted to erase it and Bran was the keeper of all memories so he wanted to start with him.
  6. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    There is no purpose to the Nights Watch. The popular theory is that it was all a trick. There was no NW. Bran and Tyrion knew they were sending Jon to his freedom at the Wall so they just made up the whole thing about the NW existing to fool Grey Worm. When Jon gets there he catches on and leaves with the wildlings. He never took the vows. Tyrion only told the vows to Jon so that the Unsullied soldiers who were outside his cell would listen and report to Grey Worm that Jon was indeed taking the vows and taking the black. Sansa doesn't tell Jon that its a trick because the Unsullied are nearby and listening but she is in on this plan as well. But I still don't understand why did they go through all this trouble of mentioning the vows, Jon telling Arya to meet him at Castle Black, him wearing the uniform going out and showing 4 new NW recruits if the endgame was him ending up with wildlings. Why not just tell Grey Worm he would be exiled beyond the wall for life never to return instead of mentioning a NW which has no purpose. Why would Grey Worm not listen to this? If you think about it for more than a minute, nothing makes sense.
  7. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    I think how GRRM ends this is Jon exits the wall just like on the show but he doesn't go to stay with the wildlings. He goes ranging into the Far North with his direwolf and becomes a ghost like his direwolf and he is never seen or heard of again. This is foreshadowed in book 1 where Tyrion tells Jon "Who will go looking for you?" I think this ending was just too bitter which is why they cut it short. It also explains why he is wearing the NW outfit and not wildlings clothes
  8. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    One more aspect of the ending which is weird is that Jon is the only character who still doesn't symbolise the direwolf. Sansa becomes a Lady. Arya becomes an explorer with her own pack like Nymeria. Jon is the only Stark who hasn't symbolised his direwolf "Ghost". I sometimes think GRRM didn't give them the complete version of Jon's ending which is why his ending is left ambiguous
  9. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    Which is why I at times imagine Jon stays at the Wall. I think he would prefer staying alone at this point. It just doesn’t seem like Jon’s nature to just go to frolick and party with Tormund after killing Dany.
  10. Kaapstad

    The Ending Was very conventional

    I would not say that all the Starks living along away from each other would make it a conventional Disney ending. I would say the Harry Potter epilogue is a Disney ending with everyone marrying and living close to each other
  11. Kaapstad

    The character assassination of Daenerys

    And she also smirks when her dragons which really are nukes fly overhead and everyone gets terrified.
  12. Kaapstad

    Did the writers confirm Jon’s ending?

    Yup. And you can do that anyway. The ending is open-ended and we are never getting a sequel so we can do whatever we want with the story. Had they shown an epilogue with Jon in the Far North as an adult, Arya on some distant island somewhere and Sansa staying single then we didn’t have the authority to change the ending. But we didn’t get that nor are we ever getting a sequel so we get the right to finish it as we choose.
  13. Kaapstad

    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Well it’s not a miserable ending if you think about it this way that Tormund and the wildlings although underdeveloped are his best friends.
  14. Kaapstad

    The character assassination of Daenerys

    Daenerys and her dragons were what was selling Game of Thrones. That and many feminists loved Dany taking the world by storm. That's why they had to keep pulling punches with her right till the very end. The books OTOH make it seem normal.
  15. Kaapstad

    Why didn't Jon simply refuse to accept banishment?

    Dany didn't interpret it that way. In Episode 5 she tells Tyrion "I told him not to tell Sansa and he didn't listen and told Sansa anyway. He has betrayed me." In that scene Jon says "You are my queen and they are my sisters. We can live together". Then she says "We can. I just told you how"
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