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    The character assassination of Daenerys

    Daenerys and her dragons were what was selling Game of Thrones. That and many feminists loved Dany taking the world by storm. That's why they had to keep pulling punches with her right till the very end. The books OTOH make it seem normal.
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    Why didn't Jon simply refuse to accept banishment?

    Dany didn't interpret it that way. In Episode 5 she tells Tyrion "I told him not to tell Sansa and he didn't listen and told Sansa anyway. He has betrayed me." In that scene Jon says "You are my queen and they are my sisters. We can live together". Then she says "We can. I just told you how"
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Its amazing how so many were duped by GRRM into rooting for Stalin with tits. He should get an award for this character alone.
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    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    Or take Jon's son with whoever he marries and name him the heir.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    No they don't but how are you any better then them by randomly crucifying any noble you find? As I said she gave the punishment to her enemies which she thought was right. There was no trial or anything of the sort. That's why I say even Cersei is a better queen then her. I have no issues with her freeing the Unsullied but why did she order them to kill every noble in Astapor, every single one even those not guilty? And again you may call their castration cruel but the slave masters trained them to be deadly fighters basically doing Dany's job for her and she uses these slave soldiers in battle and doesn't give them anything. Why use slave soldiers if you are against slavery? She didn't free them. They were freed from one tyrant and handed over to another. It was the equivalent of a scenario where Dany gives Drogon to that slavelord and he immediately orders his Unsullied to kill Dany. It was a shakedown. You just liked it because she did it to bad people. But it was still a double cross There was no reason to kill them all when all they were doing was threatening her. She toppled over one candle and she showed them how she couldn't be burnt. That should have been sufficient warning to them. That was no "War". It was a slaughter. She had already won but she kept coming back to exterminate every single Lannister soldier. Dany didn't listen and she lost, losing the faith of everyone she knew.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Not saying it’s wrong. I am saying she didn’t improve matters any. Dany does not come. The undead army is smaller with no dragon and it’s difficult to get past the wall. Dany helps them, they get a giant dragon raining hell from the sky, who feels no pain and a massive Dothraki horde to bolster their strength. Dany maintained status quo. Her being there didn’t help matters at all. They lost even with her before Arya came in.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    The comical aspect is this thread’s question was never answered. If Jon goes with the wildlings, what does he do after that? We don’t know. ‘If Jon stays at the NW, what does he do? We don’t know as the NW doesn’t have a purpose. So we don’t know the purpose of the main protagonist of the story at the end while we know the purpose of every other character.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Arya seemed normal to me. Yes I agree. Sansa should immediately fall to Dany’s feet and trust a foreign invader with the equivalent of nukes at her side, whose family has a history of madness and burning people alive and surprise surprise Sansa knows she did just that by burning alive the Tarlys and the Lannister army and to add to her troubles, she fooled Jon into falling in love with her. Sansa remembers what happened the last time Theon went to "save" Robb by going to the Iron Islands. I am sure she remembers how they were backstabbed by an ally Bolton and now she should immediately trust a person she knows nothing about to help "save" them. I can tell you for certain that Sansa trusts no one beyond her family members after what happened to her family And again she caused a problem by coming to help them by giving a dragon to the dead army. Had Jon not gone to her for help, sure his forces would be less but then the NK wouldn’t have had a dragon or thousands of Dothraki undead to revive making things equal again
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    But she does not show any emotion whatsoever at watching her brother die in this painful way. There is nothing on her face. She should be happy. She is not. She isn’t sad either. She just makes that dragon comment making her look like a merciless tyrant. If she had any compassion, she would have told Drogo to send Viserys back to Pentos or at least grant him a swift death with a sword. She also kept her eyes on him this whole time watching him die never flinching even worse. Comparable to Sansa. Myranda drew a bow at Sansa and said she would mutilate all parts of her body except the ones needed to produce an heir and then she told her that Ramsay will use her parts to produce 1 or 2 boys as heirs and mutilate them too once she is done giving him 2 sons. She escapes and when she is feeding Ramsay to her dogs, Sansa can’t bear to watch the scene of him being ripped apart by the dogs. She leaves in the middle of the event but she shows a smile of happiness. Dany wasn’t showing human emotions which was the first red flag of her descent to madness.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Are you serious? You realise she crucified 163 nobles with zero proof against them? And it’s proven that they had nothing to do with it later when it was the Yunkai masters who were responsible. She fed one to her own dragon just for sport. She mercilessly killed all the nobles in Astapor. She killed all the Khal leaders by burning them alive so that she could add them to her own force. When she came to Westeros, she burnt an entire Lannister army alive.
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    Why didn't Jon simply refuse to accept banishment?

    It’s stupid to say he would wait at the NW in an empty castle just for Arya. How often could Arya meet Jon? Probably 6-7 times in 30 days. So he would spend 24 days in the castle doing nothing for those 6 days? As far as Sansa breaking her oath goes, Jon won’t hold that against her as he himself broke his oath to Dany by telling Sansa. Why would he be mad Sansa did the same?
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Killing the masters solved nothing. More would come to replace them. There was a civil uprising which she failed to stop. I think the city fell back to the slavers the moment she left for Westeros with her armies as there was no one left to stop them and Dario would probably be on the run somewhere. The common folk also revolted against her. She executed a slave when the people were asking for her to forgive him for killing a noble. They got angry at her when she didn’t listen and started a revolt. So not a job very well done. Using nukes to force a population into submission only works as long as you are present. How so? Dany’s presence had no effect. The Night King reached Bran anyway. The same ending would repeat once again. If Dany wouldn’t agree to help Jon he wouldn’t go on that wight hunt altogether, thus needing no one to rescue him
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    No. The thing is we saw Dany for what she really was back in Essos. I would say Martin duped everyone who followed the Essos storyline. Essos was created with the sole objective of tricking the reader as we compartmentalise things. We viewed Essos as a separate story when it wasn’t. We see everything there through Dany’s POV. We feel good. When she comes to Westeros and her paths clash with Jon and Sansa then we begin to see her for what she really is.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    Effectively she did kill him. If she had told Khal Drogo he would have listened. While he is dying she looks st him with an expression devoid of any emotion. No happiness or sadness. And she says "He was not a dragon". That’s he response to killing her own brother.
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    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    She was bluffing. Jamie outright calls her out on that and she accepts it. She calls herself the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Jamie tells her that she is Queen of 3 kingdoms at best. And when they met at the Dragonpit, Cersei asks Jon to stay out of the war between her and Dany.Jon refuses saying he can’t serve 2 queens. At that point the North opted out of her protection. She owes nothing to them Her advisors were loyal loyal to her. She was the one who was unhinged using her dragons as nukes. And really does Westeros need a queen where everyone has to stay in line because if they don’t she could go off like a ticking time bomb? She was a tyrant back in Meereen as well when everyone was loyal to her and she crucified 163 nobles and fed 1 to her dragon as a public spectacle not having any clue whether they were guilty. There were uprisings and revolts everywhere because she removed the existing system but did not replace it with one which kept everything together. She made up rules on the go. Her descent into Nazism is foreshadowed in her convo with Barrowton Selmy. "Dany: I’m not my father Ser Barristan: No, Your Grace. Thank the gods. But the Mad King gave his enemies the justice he thought they deserved. And each time it made him feel powerful and right. Until the very end" Dany gave the justice to her enemies which she thought they deserved. It also made her feel right, until the very end. I can say with complete confidence that the average Joe peasant or farmer would have been more happier with Cersei than Dany as Queen As far as the NK goes, Dany not helping them could also have worked in the North’s favour. Without Dany, Jon wouldn’t go on that wight hunt and the NK couldn’t have gotten his hands on a dragon.He wouldn’t have been able to cross the Wall as easily as he did and even if he did, it ends just like it ended in the show. Without the dragon he also wouldn’t be able to kill as many soldiers. Even with Dany, the Night King reaches Bran. Without Dany the same story repeats and Arya kills her. Sansa even says they didn’t need Dany. They only needed Arya Whatever goodwill she earned was negated by the destruction of Kings Landing. Her own soldiers are going to die of butterfly fever and the North certainly won’t stick its neck out for a genocidal tyrant
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