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Okay, I agree with that. This I don't agree with. Loras is very much able to mourn Renly and he does do that. Offering sympathies to the widow instead of the dead husband's secret lover is totally OK. If the upset secret lover would have been a woman what would you call it then? Society is phobic towards the feelings of mistresses? Not everything negative towards gay people is homophobia. If a gay guy slips on ice then the weather is not homophobic. The term homophobia should not be used so lightly. Oxford dictionary says that homophobia is "a strong dislike and fear of homosexual people". If every little misunderstanding is homophobia then life is homophobic.

Sansa doesn't make any assumptions either. She says that Renly's death must have been horrible for Margarey and then Loras gets upset and says why talk about Rebly when he is dead. Please explain the homophobia here.

Answer this then. A crazy, hypothetical situation. Someone is throwing rocks at random people. That someone has no idea who these people are nor does Someone know anything about their sexuality. Is Someone a homophobe every time the rocks hits a homosexual but just violent every time the rock hits a straight person?

It's funny how you accuse Sansa stans of being offended too easily and then go rant about how random microagressions are homophobia and offensive. But the case of Sansa and Loras in ASoS is not homophobia in any way. It's just someone being unknowingly insensitive. Sansa doesn't know Loras and Renly were really close, so she talks casually about Renly's murder. Think of somebody talking casually about Robb's death in the red wedding near Sansa. She'd likely go full hurt mode but most likely hiding it behind courtesy. Being insensitive to someone who is a homosexual is not homophobia if the reason for being insensitive is not the person's homosexuality. It's just being insensitive.

I wonder what made them drop the "Tyrion is in love with Dany" storyline. A Jon-Dany-Tyrion love triangle in season 8 - this something so horribly bad I'd watch it just so I could hate it.

Sansa doesn't even know that Loras is a homosexual, how can this case be homophobia?

Although even though this one detail confuses me, I do like the ambiguity around Jon Arryn's death. If Littlefinger hadn't gotten him killed, then Cercei would have anyways. If Cercei hadn't, then Pycelle with his eagerness to protect house Lannister would have. Learning the horrible secret doomed him one way or another.

I don't think Varys is talking about Petyr since the mention of Lysa fleeing from King's Landing and "him" prospering do not go together with Petyr, but with ser Hugh. Littlefinger prospered already before Lysa escaped King's Landing, ser Hugh's rise started just then. So this is what bothers my mind. Clearly Littlefinger orchestrated the whole thing, but exactly who gave Jon Arryn the poison is still unclear to me. Both ser hugh and Lysa seemed to do it.

Stupid question, I know, but after re-reading AGoT and ASoS recently, I am confused. Varys, the Spider who knows everything, tells Eddard that ser Hugh of the Vale gave Jon Arryn the tears of Lys. At the end of AGoT the reader is to believe this is true. In the end of ASoS however, we find out from Lysa that SHE gave the tears of Lys to his husband. So was the whole ser Hugh thing just a cover-up created by Littlefinger? If so, then it was very cleverly done, since even Varys believes ser Hugh to be the poisoner. My conclusion from this is that Littlefinger is much more secretive and dangerous than Varys.

Okay, the first sentence of the article is already wrong - the opening sequence of GoT is by far the best opening of anything ever and fans to not "dread"it.

Do you think with different people in charge, the outcome will not be as disastrous as it was with D&D?

It was also there so Littlefinger could say "kinky" stuff like "Play with her arse" etc.

You can actually take any moment from season 2 and say that this is when they started going off rails. I just recently re-read the books and re-watched the series and season 2 is so butchered I find it surprising it never bothered me before. Season 3 is much better adapted, because they split ASOS into two seasons. They should have done the same with ACOC. About 1/3 of ACOC is not adapted at all. I'm not saying one third of the book is changed during adaption, I'm saying 21 out of 70 chapters in ACOC are just left out completely. And the rest is heavily modified for the show. But I do admit that I enjoyed rewatching season 2 as a good television series even now after everything. Personally, what bothered me in the show the most was Robb not becoming the king in the North AND Riverlands. Riverrun, Edmure and Blackfish should have all been introduced in season 1. Instead, Robb spent the first two seasons as a romantic freedom-fighting king (don't even get me started on the war strategies or the war at all) who suddenly in season 3 had to go to his mom's place because grandpa was dead. And now he was suddenly the king to the Riverlands as well. I'm quite sure D&D would have left the Tullys and Riverlands completely out if they didn't like the red wedding so much. But basically yea, I didn't like how they adapted Robb's and Catelyn's storys at all, so for me it started going off the rails in S01E10, I seriously started doubting in it after Jaime raped Cercei and by the middle of season 5 there was no hope left. So when season 8 failed after another fail I was already used to it and it didn't bother me as much as it seemed to bother everyone else who considered season 7 a masterpiece.

I'm reading some comments from season 2 threads and it's so horribly funny how much people defended stupid decisions back in the day. For example, Jaime killing Cleos Frey while he is still Robb's prison. Oh dear how wrong were those guys. I think finding excuses and more excuses was the mistake, if people had shown a little outrage or discontent towards the changes, then maybe D&D wouldn't have been so fucking careless. But no, all D&D heard for 8 years was how big a geniuses they are and then suddenly everyone hated them. edit: the guy's name wasn't Cleos in the show, but was still Jaime's relative

There is some truth in it though. The show was full or flaws and illogical behaviors since season 5, but the mainstream audience only started to notice them in season 8, when the show was nearing the end and it was clear that some shocking plot twist isn't going to fix everything, time's up for that.