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Littlefinger gave Cat Ned's bones, that was the biggest WTF moment in this series so far. The state of Ned's bones is still in question in the books. I know it's not a major plot point, but didn't know why the needed to spend time on it this episode.

Your that worried about Ned's bones? I am pretty sure they can still get lost when Catelyn gets killed and unkilled or whatever.

I think they spent time because, as LF said it was Tyrion's way of showing good faith. He gave her this without anything from her. She can still decide to do something or do nothing. It was another way to show how vastly superior Tyrion is at working with, understanding, and manipulating people than his relatives in Kings Landing right now.

I liked last weeks episode better. But so far I have liked this season better than the first one.

I am mad about the mountain replacement. Conan was awesome, I'm hoping I misunderstood what was happening.

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That was The Mountain in this episode? Boo.

What no talk about Xaro? I thought he looked a lot different than his character from the books, but this would be a change that I would not mind seeing.

The confrontation in front of Qarth seemed forced and kind of awkward.

Wish Catelyn would have just stabbed LF though. That would have been sweet. It seems like I have heard a lot of revisionist complaining about how hated Catelyn is by readers, as in, some people apparently like her in the books. I continue to say the HBO series makes her way more likeable than the books. And now they just gave her more of an out for her biggest, boner from the books releasing Jaimie.

The funny thing is that women are always checking each other out, noticing who’s good-looking and all, has a fine figure and face, nice clothes, carries herself well, and all that, tacitly comparing the woman they’re looking at with their own gifts or accoutrements in that regard. This happens all the time, and any woman will tell you as much. It’s human nature.

The funny thing isn’t that men don’t do that. They do. The funny thing is that almost no man will ever admit that they’re doing this too, even though of course they very much are. They refuse to acknowledge that some men are better looking then others, or have more charisma and sex appeal — that is, that men are themselves capable of being attractive. It’s ridiculous, because they pretend that they themselves are ugly and repulsive. That can’t be good for one’s mental health. Think about it.

Women certainly don’t have these stupid hangups that American men pretend to have. Women aren’t afraid to admire another woman’s beauty. That doesn’t mean they want to jump in the sack with them! It’s just acknowledging others’ humanity.

Why so many insecure American men never reach even that minimal stage of self-awareness and development, I have no idea. It’s sad, really.

I would say that most people would probably describe me as a manly man and I am definitely an American. If I am around my wife I will comment whether or not I think a guy is attractive, but you are right around other guys I would probably not make the same comments that I would when alone with my wife or around other women.

I am disappointed that Renly in the series is so stereo-typically gay. I was more impressed with him in the book than in the HBO series. I think he should have been more masculine in the show. He should have been bigger and badder, but still gay.

In the show who would want to follow him? Remember he has an older brother, even if no one likes him, they would follow him over someone whom they have no confidence in militarily.

Was Margeary Tyrell this politically savvy in the books? I though she was a little more innocent but in the series she is pretty damn straight forward and intelligent. I know she has a wicked good conniving grandma but I never got the impression she was in on the Tyrell plotting. Is she going to become Joff's poisoner?

This episode probably deviated the most from the books so far and I wonder if that won't be a continuing trend.

Best of the season so far for me.

That is why the spear is the one weapon that in my opinion is the most important invention in the history of warfare.

I fully agree that the spear was a very important step in warfare technology. A great weapon to enhance the masses.

The spear has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. It is one of the oldest weapons humans have used. You guys kind of make it sound like they just decided a spear would be a good cheap weapon for untrained warriors. It is probably the oldest hunting weapon other than rocks or knives. But maybe you guys are talking more about its use in warfare rather than its "invention."

But I just want to point out that when I am wrong about something, I fess up. I think we need more of that on these boards.

No,we need more of them in this world, particularly my wife.

I just thought it was SO STUPID for Robb to let that scout live, why in the world would he do that? Just so he could have some half assed boast at Tywin, "I'm gonna kill you mofo!" SO STUPID.

And I cringe whenever I see LF in a scene, he doesn't do it for me at all.

I thought he had a great reason for doing this. Unless I missed something he had just told his mother he had 18000 men, the scout thought he had at least 20000. Misinforming your enemy is a good enough reason to let a scout live. If their other scouts can't find an army that large they are terrible. Also, the message he sends reinforces Tywin's thoughts that Robb is a green boy who will not strategize but will just come charging into a fight he will lose and then go home.

Edit: Sorry as a I read more of the thread people already answered this statement with similar responses.

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But i still don't like Tywin! Totally not how i imagined him :(

One of the best episodes so far. Dance is awesome as Tywin. How you imagine a character should not have a siginificant bearing on how much you like them.

Well, I just started Ysabel. I haven't read a Kay book since Last Light of the Sun, but his style is immediately recognizable. Let me say this - I like Kay a lot. Everything except the Fionavar Tapestry I've enjoyed. I'm only 100 pages or so into Ysabel, and I'm enjoying it, but let me say this - I think every character in every Kay book is damn near interchangeable. Every character is above average. I mean this in the sense of they're all very intelligent, very witty, and always "say the right thing". I dunno...like I say, I like Kay, but he really seems trapped into one character type.

I only read Lions and thought it was decent but it was not engaging enough for me to pursue any of his other books. Under Heaven sounds very interesting to me though. He does seem to have a lot of Mary Sue's though, and after getting used to Martin, Abercrombie, and others it makes them harder to swallow.

I found this book to be better than average, but not ground shaking for me. It was a solid read, but it did not compell me to read anything else written by GGK. I can't really explain why I did not like it more, but I just thought it was a good book, nothing great.