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  1. The current leadership seems to be either corrupt enough to bribe or pragmatic enough to switch to the winning side. It would have been interesting to see what happened if Renly makes it to Kingslanding. He was technically in charge of the gold cloaks as master of Laws. I wonder if he could have set something up with Janos Slynt to either betray the Lannister or open the city gates to his enormous host, similar to Daemon Targeryen and Luther Largent
  2. How do you think they will portray Otto Hightower in House of the Dragon, Tywin Lannisteresque or more Mace Tyrellish? It will be interesting to see how they developed his rivalry with Daemon and how he will compare and contrast with Corlys. He was certainly grasping and ambitious but despite the internal drama going on in the redkeep, he helped rule the realm for almost 20 years of peace and prosperity, if you combine his two tenures. I don’t think Viserys I was as hands off as Robert at least not during Otto’s first tenure as hand but both of there reputation took a hard hit after the dance. The greens also seem to go downhill after they replace Otto with Aemond and Cole. Was he a good hand or was it the dragons that kept the realm in check?
  3. Without Dragons, I don't know if the blacks would have as much support. The blacks would probably be more like Stannis stuck on Dragonstone with no Melisandre of shadowbabies. They have the wealth and fleet of house Veleryon but all they can really do is blockade and raid or maybe set up bases in friendly territories but where is the manpower coming from Difrtmark,, Dragonstone, mercenaries? The north and Vale provided limited support due to the coming Winter and subsequently the Hightowers and the Reach have to be depowered for the Riverlords and winter wolves to realistically hold out. According to F&B, the Redwynes are close kin to the Hightowers but are a totall no-show in the dance, I cant think of any reason besides oversight and they did not want there fleet burned, I understand why the greens would seek an alliance with the Triarchy on the east coast but it makes no sense that they offer Dalton Greyjoy MOS and then let him raid unchallenged. Did the greens forget about the Redwynes? Also Jace and Luc would not personally go to the North, Vale or Stormlands. They would have to communicate to potential supporters with Ravens or send envoys on week or month long journeys. The Greens already had a solid power base in Kingslanding, the Westerlands and the Reach. Most of the Riverlords were torn until Daemon showed up on Caraxes, so the Riverlands might have been more equal. Jeyne Arryn would most likely still support her cousin at the very least to protect her own position but would Creagan come south if Jace didn't personally build a relationship and supposedly make the pact of ice and fire? I don't know if Kinglanding would fall without dragons, even if Cole and Aemond leave and Aegon is still injured or incapacitated, especially if the Triarchy still attacks Driftmark, maybe I am underestimating the Goldcloaks loyalty to Daemon but again where is the manpower coming from. Again I could see Aemond going to Stomsend with an escort to gain support but not Luc or Jace The greens were meant to loose from the beginning, the Reach is torn even the Hightowers own vassals side with the blacks. I guess they took affront to the killing of Lyman Beesbury. The greens supposedly have the full or majority support of the Westerlands and Stormland but their armies are relatively small compared to WOTFK for 80 years of peace. You could probably drop a nuke on the Riverlands and they would still show up to the next battle with around 10k men, led by 13 year old Ben Blackwood. I always thought it would make more sense for Boros to route the Riverlords and then get defeated by the Northmen. The Greens are so incompetent, they make Renly and Mace look like Stannis and Randyl Tarley.
  4. What would happen if you removed dragons from The Dance of the Dragons? Who would benefit more, the greens or the blacks? Would the blacks even have a chance or without dragons would it be more drawn out like the anarchy and turn into a slow war of attrition and siege-craft?
  5. Out of the four large scale wars we have the most details about, I would rank them WO5k, RR, Conquest & Dance. The Blackfyre Rebellions look promising and I hope F&B give us a fuller description of the first and some details of the third, so we don’t have to wait for couple more D&E novels.
  6. House Darry most likely supported the Targaryens in all the Blackfyre Rebellions and remained in royal favor up until Robert’s rebellion. Tully, Blackwood, Bracken, Frey, Lothstrom, Butterwell... I assume the Valeryons and Baratheon’s were powerful and influential during this period but we don’t know when the Valeryons finally fell to 3rd class lords and if it happened before Robert’s Rebellions or when the Baratheon’s came back into the crowns good graces, even though I cant imagine Aegon III or Viserys holding a grudge against the infant son of Borros Baratheon. However in The Hedge Knight, there is no mention of Lionel Baratheon having any close ties or affection for the Targeryen princes at the Ashfird tourney. Im surprised we don’t know more about the small council during the time of Daeron II as it wouldn’t ruin any future D&E novels but I guess we will have to wait for F&B II for more info regarding the historical Small Council and Kingsgard from Aegon III to Aerys II.
  7. The Tyrells most likely ascended to royal favor during the reign of Daeron I. They were viceroys of Dorne before shit hit the fan. Leo Longthorn seems to be well respected by both the blacks and reds in THK and TSS, which is suprising if he wouldn’t commit fully to the loyalist until the RGF or he betrayed the rebels when he found out Daemon died. For all we know, he could be married or related to a Hightower or Redwyne.
  8. I never understood why Viserys never claimed another dragon, especially when he had two symbols of power, both Vhagar and Vermithor available when he became king. I lean towards the opinion that riders can bond with more then one dragon, even if it’s only after their original dragon dies. Rhanyra and Aegon II seemed to both believe they could ride a second dragon after there’s died. I get get that Viserys was lazy and complacent and might not have liked riding a dragon but just because he claimed a second dragon, it does not mean he has to ride it all the time or at all. It would at least give him security during the early years of his reign when the Valeryon's were still considered a threat. Alternatively I thought they should have kept Balerion alive longer and that would explain why Viserys never claimed another dragon. Instead of Balerion dying, he just becomes more lethargic and immobile and eventually dies a couple years before Viserys. Maybe Viserys just spends time siting and talking to him in the dragon pit about his crazy wife and daughter and annoying brother. This would explain why Daemon and the Velerions never challenged his rule and why the realm was at peace with no Iron born and Dornish testing the easy going king, because maybe just maybe Balerion could go nuclear one more time.
  9. Any thoughts on most powerful house(s) besides Targs during first Blackfyre rebellion period? For example the Hightowers/Valeryons were the most powerful during the Dance and the Lannister/Tyrells during the WO5k, once the Baratheon's lose control of the throne. Obviously the Martels are married to the crown at this time and have influence at court but due to there isolation and small population, they wouldn’t be able to project that much power? Could the Tyrells have been overpowered by Dearon I, giving Leo Longthorn the power to dip toes in both camps and show up late but still get kudos from loyalist? The Arryn’s we’re given a royal marriage and maybe lord Donnel was given a court title for his contribution at the redgrass field?
  10. Why didn’t the Blackfyres use the Golden company to conquer and set up a kingdom in Tryosh or another part of Essos. That would give them a better power base for future invasions of Westeros?
  11. Which medieval ruler had more power, resources and influence, Henry II of England / Angevin Empire, Manuel Komnenos of Byzantine Empire or Frederick Barbarossa of Italy / Holy Roman Empire?
  12. And risk being besieged by both Rob and Renly? I think his options would vary depending on how things played out, for example if the plot to free Jaime was successful and he was able to rescue Tommen from Rosby, I think he would have more determination to carry on the war if he had both a potential heir to Casterlyrock and the Iron Throne safe in the West. Any peace offer would be severely one sided for the Lannisters and the best case scenario would be Tywin abdicating and taking the black and hoping Kevin/sons or Daven can inherit the Rock. Jaime remaining a hostage or taking the black. If Cersie survives, she will be a permanent hostage and maybe eventually given to the faith as in OTL. Tommen and Mycella, if captured would grow up a wardens of the crown. If Tywin makes it back to the Rock and Renly takes Kingslanding / spikes Joffery's head is it possible Rob goes North to deal with Iron-born, while working out terms with Renly for Northern independence/surrender and the return of Sansa? This could give Tywin some time to regroup as Renly might have his hands full bringing peace to Kindslanding and the Riverlands before invading the Westerlands. Plus if Stannis is alive on Dragonstone he might be reluctant to leave the capital. What if Rob still breaks off the Frey marriage and undermines Roose or faills to retake Moat Callin... .The Florents are never going to be happy with a Tyrell queen... I dont think Tywin could defeat the Renly/Tyrell alliance even if Rob goes North but he might have some options to work with to extend the war.
  13. What would Tywin do if Renly defeated Stannis at Stormsends or Stannis doesn’t have Melisandre and stays on Dragonstone. Renly would theoretically besiege and capture Kingslanding if they just don’t open the gates for him and his food train. Tywin would know Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion and Joffrey were all in enemy hands, what would be his options? I can’t see him bending the knee, could he try to get Tommen from Rosby to the Rock and declare him king of the East/Rock (if Joffrey is killed/executed) or sue for some sort of peace?
  14. If we are taking about Sansa and Harry/Robert Arryn then they could potentially control Winterfell, The Eyrie and Riverrun. The could rebuild/regarrison Oldstone and Harrenhall but assuming the southern Kingdoms are still united and ruled from the iron throne Harenhall is probably too close to KL for a royal seat if the north and better used as a border fortress. The Norman/Angevins/Plantagenets kings of England and Capetian kings of France had a traveling court to control there large domains. In feudalism the local lords would bend the knee when the king was visiting or near but otherwise ruled there estates as independent sovereigns and that is why it was important for the king to make his rounds. It’s funny that the early Targaryens put an emphasis on the royal progress when they had dragons but post dragons they don’t seem to travel out of Kingslanding that much with the exception of maybe Daeron II and his court. Maybe that’s why the lord let them stay in power so long.
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