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  1. That's more or less accurate, I think. The Faith of the Seven is basically Medieval Catholicism, a religion GRRM sort-of likes, altered through the modern lenses of agnostic secular humanism, and New Age neopaganism. He basically took the idea of Three Persons in One God, expanded it to 7 persons in one god, filled out the 7 by adding the Maiden, Mother and Crone from neopagan Goddess worship; and made it more humanistic by focusing on the idea that most of the aspects of God are human archtypes. Although GRRM has given the Faith of the Seven lots of warts and flaws, especially as embodied by its leaders and practitioners, I think he is more or less on its side, at least compared to all the other religions. The Septons are the ones who oppose human sacrifice, and do not think one should be allowed to throw dwarfs into the sea. I have this idea that Rh'llor, the Great Other, the Lion of Night, the Storm God, and maybe the Drowned God too, are all (or can appear as) aspects of the many-faced god of death. They are all on the same team -- the destruction of humanity -- and their followers are dupes. As seen through Aeron's eyes, he has an almost Christlike aspect to him. And in Aeron's vision, the Drowned God is one of the victims of the God of Death, rather than one of its aspects.
  2. So, in the end. Valyrian lords are mortal just like anyone else. They just live a little longer, in one form or another. Yes, the thought did occur to me that Tyrion might be forced to blow the dragonhorn and end up second-living as a dragon. The child in Falia is Euron's, and Euron is a king. King's blood has power in blood magic, apparently.
  3. The problem with dualistic religions is that they promote a by-any-means-necessary ethic. Which is why Mel has no problem with human sacrifice and the murder of children. The Faith of the Seven is not dualistic, and is instead loosly modelled on medieval christianity, a monotheistic (but not dualistic) religion. The Faith of the Seven does have a concept of good and evil, though. Unclear what you are trying to say here. Morality is about good and evil by definition. Otherwise the word is meaningless.
  4. About being a god? Sure. He's just another deranged puppet of the many-faced god of death. But GRRM means the apocalyptic threat to be real. Same here. He seems to have passed it with flying colors. Tied to a mast after months of torment, and his first thought is to turn to Falia and try to comfort her. I'm turning into a fan of this guy. The path he has planned obviously involves Dany and her Dragons. Euron does not give a damn about the Ironborn or their future. The climactic battle he is currently heading for is in Slavers' Bay.
  5. I never got the impression that Dany was tall. But I can't find any textual support for that, so I could be wrong. Melisandre is tall, for whatever that is worth.
  6. I don't think Gregor will ever be regarded as anything other than a monster by a significant portion of "the people", religious or otherwise. Robert Strong is officially not Gregor, so I don't think the High Sparrow is going to see Gregor's face any time soon. By "the people" do you mean the KL crowd? I don't think Sandor will be returning to KL, nor identifying himself by the name "Sandor". When he reappears he may be hard to recognize. Religious people sometimes adopt new names. And his face has been reinjured and re-healed by the reputedly miraculous healing powers of the Elder Brother. I can't see how. But it does seem a bit like a Chekov's bloody cloak. Doesn't seem likely to me.
  7. I don't think so. GRRM once said, regarding Beric IIRC, that the blood no longer flowed in his veins. It is hard therefore to see how oxygen would do him any good by any normal means. Liquid water, at least the salt kind, must serve as some kind of barrier to Ice Wights, else the Wall would be an ineffective barrier against them. The Hardhome rumors speak of dead things in the water. Unclear if these are Ice Wights or a different kind of wight.
  8. Sansa is a smart girl in many ways. But your evidence that she is being idealistic and moral and interested in knights and tournaments for politically savvy reasons, is basically evidence that she is being idealistic and moral and interested in knights and tournaments. A little older, sadder and wiser, maybe, but still the same old Sansa in many ways as well. And she seems to keep returning to these themes. Which seem worthwhile themes to me. I don't think a character necessarily has to be a Power Player to be a worthwhile character. Must a woman have the brawns of Brienne or the brains of a World Leader to be regarded as a worthwhile person? Such an attitude would end up writing off most of them, except in some fantasies. And it has not yet even occurred to her yet that LF may be plotting Sweetrobin's death.
  9. The Iron Fleet is the royal fleet and he sent it to Slaver's Bay. I don't know where you get the 900 figure, but Euron does not have magical telepathic control of every longship controlled, directly or indirectly, by an Ironborn Lord who is in theory his subject. I checked the Foresaken chapter again, and it seems to indicate that Euron has about 3 dozen longships. More than I had misremembered, but still not enough to face the combined naval might of Westeros. Unless you think he's going to use blood magic to summon krakens or something. I see no evidence of the bolded parts. And it is meaningless to speak of him as escaping from a trap he was never in to begin with. It is the 4 lords who hold the shields who are in a trap. If he can to do that, then it is hard to understand why he thinks the 4 lords who took the Shields are doomed. The Iron Throne will have a hard time retaking the Shields without naval forces. That's your opinion. It is also the opinion of many Ironborn Lords. It is not Euron's opinion. He wanted them all to come with him to Slaver's bay, and he said so. Those who did not want to come, he is leaving behind to face the wrath of the Iron Throne. You seem to think Euron is one hell of a multi-tasker. And I suppose he is to some extent, but this is a bit much, IMHO. He wants Dany and her Dragons, precisely so he can use them to take the Iron Throne. He captured the warlocks in Slavers bay, heard about and perhaps even saw Dany and her dragons, then sailed on the storm to the Iron Islands and the Kingsmoot so he could summon the Ironborn to Slavers Bay to claim Dany and her dragons. Prior to that, he seemed to have no particular interest in the Seastone Chair. Dany and her dragons are the key. If he did not need them for what he wants, he would have just conquered the world for shits and giggles years ago. But I guess he can't -- not without dragons. I don't now about "immediately" but his plan is almost certainly to get Dany and her dragons FIRST, and only THEN to take the Iron Throne. Who is "we"? If he wants Dany, and he wants Dragons, he will need to be present to claim them himself. His plan is not to put Victarion on the Iron Throne. Okay. Maybe one of those longships can marry Dany and bond with one of her dragons. What good does that do Euron? Dude! Euron is not interested in what Dany needs, nor in what the Volantene slaves need. He's in it for Euron. Why, then, does he think the Shields are doomed to be retaken? Or the House with the Red Door. That issue will be resolved, more or less, by the time she returns to the Battle of Meereen. And I suspect that Dany the Conqueror will be more in sync with Drogon than Dany the Tree-Grower was. I don't think payoff for the Volantene slaves is a high priority for most readers. In any event, something's got to give. Where's the payoff for Nymeria and her Chekov's wolf army? Or a hundred other loose ends readers care about? We'll never get there we have to put them on hold to get payoff for Volantene slaves. He hasn't told her yet, and may never tell her. Or she may be in Westeros by the time he tells her. The Tattered Prince is already dead, IMHO. Gerris knows this, which is why he gets so nervous when he hears Barristan wants to send them on a mission to the Tattered Prince. The House with the Red Door is the only one of these that needs to be resolved, IMHO, and it will not happen til the last volume.
  10. The passage does not use the word "boil". Search >Winterfell sloughing< and it will come up. No clue on what it means.
  11. On second glance, the Frey references are to "boil" someone in the sense of making them angry which does not really count. The wildling references are intended as insults from beginning to end. I really don't think it is intended as "first I am going to respect your corpse, and then I am going to disrespect it." I Aegor Rivers did order his followers to boil the flesh off his skull and encase it in gold. But that's hardly normal.
  12. Not sure what you mean by "GRRM intends this". Most of the references to boiling people in the books are indeed intended as insults by the people who make them (mostly Freys and Wildlings). Barristan does not intend boiling to be an insult because he has no intention of doing it. Missandei does not intend boiling to be an insult because the situation has already passed far beyond insult. Thanks for the Mos Teutonicus reference. That was indeed interesting. Note however that the Pope outlawed the practice in 1300 because, well, ... ugh. Imagine Ned chopping up his sister, putting her in a pot, and boiling her for hours. Or maybe he got Howland to do it for him while he was making the cairns. Note also, that it is called the "German custom" partly because the English (and French) were averse to it. Westeros is based on Britain more than on anything else. One can imagine the French and English shaking their heads in disgust and saying "stupid Germans!"
  13. Thanks for the quote. Clearly, it is traditional for the Ghiscari to inter their honored dead in crypts. It is less clear that it is traditional to boil them first. Look at the extraordinary context. Dany takes 163 Meereenese citizens and nails them, alive, to posts. Then she has their bellies slit, and then listens to their groans as they slowly die. Then, after they are dead, she leaves them on the posts to rot, until corpse flies are starting to become a problem. Finally, someone dares to suggest: Your majesty, I know you're pissed about the 163 children, but these rotting corpses are starting to become a problem. They are so rotten that Grey Worm will not merely need sacks for the corpses. He will need a shovel too. Missandei ventures to push it a little further, and suggest they boil the bones clean and return them to their relatives. The alternative is to present the relatives with a tortured, disemboweled, rotted and maggot-ridden corpse. In short, these corpses have already been so horrifically disrespected that a little boiling can add nothing to the disrespect, and, at this late stage, might even alleviate it a bit. There are several references where Westerosi people, mainly Wildlings and Freys, talk of boiling people or their corpses. These all seem to be insults.
  14. I agree with the "ugh" part. But I don't think they do, or if they do, they keep it to themselves, out of respect for the dead and their families. Silent for a reason, maybe. Barristan objects to boiling Quentyn to his bones, presumably because he thinks it disrespectful. Another reference has a character boasting that he will boil someone's head and use the skull as a drinking cup, which is deliberately disrespectful. I know of no other references.
  15. Well, in the case of the Uruk Hai, I don't know why Saruman would train his own breed of Orcs to use the Black Speech. In the Uruk Hai chapters, what we mainly hear is Saruman's Orcs quarreling with Mordor's orcs, as well as communicating with their prisoners. In the Cirith Ungol chapters, it is hinted that Sam can understand the Orcs because it is one of the powers granted him by the One Ring. A second Mordor encounter has two orcs from different tribes use the Common Tongue to talk to each other. A third encounter is ambiguous, and it may be that only Frodo, who bore the Ring, could understand the Orcs; who are however, also addressing who they believe to be members of a different orc tribe. Sure. But suspension of disbelief is a thing too. It helps if you address the problem.
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