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    Renly in Dorne?

    Well when thinking about it, I found westeros to be a very tolerant place for it to be based on midieval Europe..... Just remembering the parley with Stannis and Renly.... Stannis sure does make a joke of Renly for his homosexuality but he didn't seem that bothered by it.( And Stannis the Mannis is justice incarnate we are talking about)..... He frowns but it's not that big of a social taboo to him..... That's the thing...... Baratheons and Martells aren't supposed to be cool after what happened at KL. At least in that generation, no?
  2. I am sorry if this had been discussed before but, "One year King Robert's brother came to visit and she did her best to seduce him, but she was half a girl and Lord Renly seemed more bemused than inflamed by her overtures" AFFC, The princess in the Tower. What was Renly doing in Dorne?
  3. Should've smelled the troll coming.... ROFL..... It seems providing a Direct quote about Bobby B by Mr Martin saying that he is one of a kind isn't enough..... Anyways, I am done as well.....
  4. Heh, Given no counter arguments but an intended "insult".... I accept your secession..... You asking for the quote? Sure.... And the link to it, https://grrm.livejournal.com/203595.html Gregor is abnormal..... But I figure his strength is proportional to his size.... So not really impressive in any sense that he is literally a giant humanoid.... While Robert has abnormal strength for his size.... Kind of like an ant.... You don't get it do you? Ned outright calls Robert Peerless... the same guy who fought the lights of Arthur Dayne..... You are right about battles..... You can't win em all.... But, it's hard to argue against math and probability.... Which is on Roberts side along with the text....
  5. Exactly...... But I don't think Corbon would quite smelling his/her own farts, about what was meant by Jorah's words(opposite of he/she thinks lol)...... It's also funny you didn't try and dismiss what I said.... Is it cause I am spouting straight facts from the books? And dude accept a loss, you asked why I think Robert is superhuman or inhuman..... I gave reasoning from the Books supported by Mr Martin and the English fu*king Dictionary for Christ Sake and also provided the links for it in this thread..... He's inhuman cause the Text says he is.... Deal with it.... Anyways, my point was in a fight between Captain America(marvel comics) and Achilles (real world legend)..... I would bet my money on Cap winning 99 times out of 100.... Note, Cap= Robert (prime) and Achilles= Arthur(prime)......
  6. Yeah sure..... Cause There is not a single hint of accuracy/control when Some guy rams a bigass spiked hammer in some other guys heart Admist a raging battle on horseback, right?(eye-roll).... Anyways, the point is Robert was toying with Rhaegar..... Made a show before the final hammer-blow to the heart......
  7. Isn't it explained in the books?.... I was being sarcastic to prove a point.....
  8. He is in his prime is referred to as Giant among Princes.... Now you yourself have noted Robert although being a tall guy(6.6) isn't that very tall to be called a giant and there are many others taller than him.... While Mr Martin says Robert was freakishly strong... So what does it mean?..... It means 'Giant' is the midieval language for 'Super-human'...... And Yes he(in prime) is the strongest and Deadliest character we hear about.... Given Ned thinks, Robert>Arthur (and everybody else).... ???Your "But the Mountain" arguement isn't helping your cause.... But Let's stop with the prevalent and completely fan invented notion that Robert was just some Hulk smash guy. He was easily one of the most skilled warriors of all time.... - He's killed or defeated more people in single combat than any other warrior in the entire series, barring possibly Barristan. He's defeated Marq Grafton, Ser Myles Mooton, 5 men at the BoTB, Jon Connington, Lord Fell, Silver Axe Fell, Rhaegar Targaryen, and I'm probably forgetting somebody.... - He was the first man over the wall at Gulltown - Ned says he's watched Robert kill a thousand boars with a single sure thrust of a spear - He kills a monstrous boar while blackout drunk, some 112lbs overweight, with his guts hanging out, with a single knife thrust straight through its eye - He defeated or killed Ser Myles Mooton, Jon Connington, and 5 men at the Battle of the Bells *while wounded and with a sword* and not even his hammer. - That means Robert is extremely skilled with hammer, sword, spear, and knife. We also know he was an okay jouster, if nothing special, meaning that he's averagely skilled with a lance too. And we know that he fought in melees with either a hammer or an axe, meaning he's also extremely skilled with axes. His favourite past time is also hunting, and that means using a bow. He's not just some brute who's only strong, he's skilled with pretty much every single weapon. - Eddard remembers Robert literally laughing as he defeated men left and right at the Harrenhal melee - Likewise, Cersei remembers that when Robert and her visited his Estermont cousins that Robert kicked the shit out of everybody in the training yard - Robert impaled Rhaegar right through the heart, while dueling in the middle of a river, on horseback, in the midst of a raging battle. That's uncanny accuracy - Stannis says that Robert won battles at worse than 5:1 odds before. You don't do that just by charging the enemy - Stannis says that Robert beat him at everything, and in particular fighting - Robert's won more battles than any other general in the series - Despite being king and not allowed on the front lines anymore, Robert still managed to perform incredibly valiant and noteworthy deeds in the Greyjoy Rebellion Yeah, Robert was indeed really, really fucking strong. That doesn't mean though that he was just some guy swinging a hammer really hard. There are plenty of characters who can do that, but they won't accumulate anywhere near the deeds or displays of skill that he has. He was obviously enormously skilled too. With that combo of strength and skill he's the most peerless warrior in the series (funny that he was unbeaten) Ned even called him peerless >His father had talked of him often: the peerless Robert Baratheon, demon of the Trident, the fiercest warrior of the realm, a giant among princes. Warhammers are one handed weapons.... Robert uses his Warhammer one handed.... Mr Martin quite approved of the drawing in horseback where Robert is using the hammer one handed against Rhaegar with a sword.... What made you think it was two handed? The weight?? This is fantasy..... Robert is very fantasy-esque.... Fine, it was a weak argument on my behalf..... But I think I made more than enough points that Robert (prime) is a War God not just in looks but feats aswell.... "Robert went in fresh as anyone" The texts suggest otherwise and I am not going to argue it again..... Peace.....
  9. You mean the same renowned knight who minutes before was going to be executed, but Robert didn't allow it?..... Yeah.... any person would have done what Robert did....... My point was Rhaegar went in Fresh.... Robert didn't...... My head-canon (which I admit this one is a head-canon) Rhaegar wasn't beating Robert even if he wasn't a 100 percent...... Yeah, But if I were betting I know where my money is going...... The guy who's superhuman.... Considering my "head-canon" is canon I don't know what your sorry for?... And Given what Mr Martin wrote regarding the matter of "Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaegar died.” I am fairly confident on my "head-canon"......
  10. Orm

    Dragonsteel

    Dawn is said to be forged from a "bleeding Star" AKA meteorite..... While Valyrian Steel is Valyrian which was probably made using dragon fire..... Do we know Dawn can kill an other? I think possibly but I don't remember it being mentioned in the books.....
  11. I like Reading about myths too.... The Greek Gods are mostly incestuous Nut-Jobs ...... Hades is likeable (ofc Stannis is quite like him and Tyr) along with a number of Demi-Gods(might be from Percy Jackson lol) and Dinosus(you can't dislike the god fun and wine)..... The Egyptian gods are incestuos aswell.... But mostly are not Nut-Jobs and are responsible...... Osiris seems the Original Jesus and Horus seems the Original Edge lord..... Really creepy that Isis conceived Horus from the corpse of Osiris in most versions..... The Norse ones seem the coolest and they are not incestuos ( or at the very least has very less incest in a comparative analysis)...... Tyr and Thor stand out to me..... Loki's shenanigans are slick(sad that they punished his son for his misdeeds), can't forget Mimir, Surtur,Ymir, Sol and forgot her moon Brothers name etc..... Oh and Skadi and Njord... "Classy foot" matchmaking there..... Know a bit off of the Indian gods aswell Tried to get into Japanese myths due to Naruto.... but didn't as of yet.... Anyways I quite like Mythology too. Entertaining as hell..... And if you look at enough then you will realise that some very different cultures have quite the similar myths.....
  12. K.... You left out Jeyne Poole, Edric Storm, Mya stone, Harry the Heir, zigzagging Rickon, Faegon, Jon Con and others which I care not to mention...... Beats me..... Could or couldn't have been important to the outline which I hope Mr Martin has..... Maybe..... Let's see either it ages like milk or wine, shall we? Would you Quit smelling your own farts, eh?.... None of us know what the story's direction is as none of us are Mr Martin. Your "narrative" and "character arcs" are just what you want/don't want to happen. They mean nothing as they are nothing. And I say this to all who are absolutely sure about their "Theories" and "Predictions"... Unless said prediction came true in which case you can brag....
  13. All this is making me anxious for the next Book...... Either your absolutely right Or your plain wrong...... And given its highly possible the shit-show was following outlines at the very least and Mr Martin isn't a writer who changes stuff "If I have left clues that the butler did it, then I won't change it so that the maid did it for the hell of it" then I am more inclined to think you might be Wrong.... But who knows.... What I am saying could turn out to be nonsense aswell.....
  14. Ok.... Given my info was from an Indian friend of mine...... With the explanation being the illiterate zealouts were the ones who made the practice mandatory and abhorrent.... In my personal opinion I find organised Religion to be B_S to control the population as to what to follow and whom to take from.... You want to say India was/is backwards? Sure go ahead.... It's still mostly a Third world country anyways....
  15. I have studied the subject a bit..... But don't take my word for it..... A mandatory/absolute rule for Sati to be applicable, Is if the wife is the one who is proposing and consenting it..... And as you have noted the male population loses half of its number in every war..... There were plenty wars in feudal India.... But as we know India didn't die out or is low on population even before the Ban on behalf of the British government...... Nah, dude..... You seem fine.......
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