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  1. This is one of countless examples during the production of Game of Thrones in which the actors have to work in very poor, dangerous and mentally stressful conditions. Is there no organization in the United States that defends the interests of the actors during such bad working conditions? How is the law regarding working conditions during film production? I am surprised that after so many complaints from the actors themselves, the showrunners can continue to do their job.
  2. Well, it is known that D&D have changed a lot of GRRM's scripts. So, it's quite possible that D&D influenced these scenes. For example, George wanted to introduce Jeyne Poole in S1E8 and later in S4E2, but it was scrapped. In "The Lion and The Rose" he even wanted to introduce Penny, Arys Oakheart and Osmund Kettleblack. None of them were seen in the final result. George R. R. Martin also used POV perspectives in the GOT scripts, where you watch the scenes through someone's eyes. Imagine that: We look through the eyes of "Reek" and digest a rat. Then we realise it's a broken Theon trapped in the Dreadfort. Most of those POV perspectives have been removed. One of the few POV-scenes that remained were those of Summer. It's a shame that GOT pretty much only uses a third-person perspective, you lose a lot of the ASOIAF experience by removing the POV perspective. In the end, I can perfectly understand why George no longer wanted to work with D&D for the scripts. They made so many changes to the scripts (while GRRM is the author of the books on which the series is "based" and also has more experience in the film industry than the showrunners)... Also, it was more or less clear by then that D&D simply wanted to make too many changes to the source material. They were also not planning to adapt A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. They broke their promise to be faithful to the books. As GRRM, I would not find any reason to continue the collaboration.
  3. This is so. A person with narcissistic personality disorder also automatically has a different view on some characters like book-Cersei than many others. We also see this in the TV series, which we can say is written from book-Cersei's POV. The content was originally posted by u/wearenotlegion on Reddit. That was a good observation!
  4. HBO Reportedly Developing Game Of Thrones Movies (wegotthiscovered.com) So apart from - House of the Dragon; - Dunk & Egg series; - Robert's Rebellion series; - an animated series; there are also rumors that there are movies in the making that take place in the same universe. These are still rumors and no further information is available. I did not know if this was already known, so my apologies if it has already been posted somewhere on the forum.
  5. I also think that Dunk & Egg will not be as popular with the mainstream for the reasons mentioned earlier. This is already evident from the reviews from mainstream readers for the book A Knight of Seven Kingdoms. Those people expect something similar to ASOIAF, but get a story they perceive as "shallow, naive and predictable." As I've said before, I would have been more comfortable with a film trilogy, with one film covering the first three books of Dunk & Egg. There is just too little material, unless it becomes a mini-series that will consist of only 12 episodes (1 per book). It is incomprehensible, though, that Brynden Rivers has not been cast in Game of Thrones. I am reminded of that again. Why D&D chose a self-created character (without any backstory) in his place.... No idea, but god... Brynden would connect both series for the mainstream audience. Now those will not understand the link between both TV series at all. - Duncan the Tall and Aegon V may have been named or described four times in Game of Thrones. The mainstream will not remember that. - Brienne would be a descendant of Duncan, hinted at in A Feast for Crows. Duncan's shield is not seen in Game of Thrones. - We can assume that the events of Summerhall will have a possible relationship to the events of the ASOIAF books (prophecies, magic?), but it is only mentioned once in Game of Thrones. - There is no mention of the Blackfyre pretenders in Game of Thrones (and no Young Griff).
  6. That's really striking in this scene. Of course, but that's far from the only problem with the scene. In the books, there's a lot of secretiveness surrounding that one letter, hidden under a lens, which is in a code language and is eventually thrown into the fire. It gives much more of an impression that the game of thrones is more dangerous than shown in the TV series. As a result, the tension and threat is expressed much better than with an ordinary letter (without code language or other hiding options). I also generally have the impression that the dialogues from the book really do more with the characters. The inner struggles are much better expressed and both Eddard and Catelyn have to make difficult choices. Their relationship is good, but they also have (near) conflicts with each other (over Jon's fate, for example). In the TV series, Eddard and Catelyn don't have to make difficult choices in this scene. Instead, it is only Catelyn who refuses to accept Eddard's decision and is a burden on his shoulders. It is actually also inappropriate that a joke was inserted where a serious discussion should actually be happening. The scene in the book has an undeniably better build-up and final conclusion than was the case in the TV series. There is simply a big difference in mood/atmosphere between the two.
  7. Comparing the book material with the TV series, it strikes me time and again how superficial the TV series comes across. I know that the TV series is a vastly oversimplified version of the books. The first season only adapts about 25-35% of the books' original dialogue. Many meaningful interactions and dialogues from the books go to waste as a result. Note that some episodes of season 1 consist of about 40% non-book material. Some non-canon scenes were certainly good. Most I consider unnecessary. I would have preferred them to be closer the the books, even for the first season. I consider the adaptation of Catelyn II (S1E1) to be astonishingly bad. The book succeeds much better in depicting the relationships between Catelyn and Eddard. The tensions come across much better. Compare for yourself: Dialogues from A Song of Ice and Fire Dialogues from Game of Thrones
  8. Another project that is Game of Thrones related? Well, I hope they take the opportunity to be faithful to the books with this potential "remake". If they adapt the books A Feast of Crows and A Dance with Dragons (with all those storylines and political-magical elements removed in Game of Thrones)... that would be fantastic! Take that chance! After all, I don't see the point in watching an exact clone of Game of Thrones.
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    Am I in the right place here? Is there already one general topic for the House of the Dragon? I didn't know where to put news or general discussions. At the moment, new announcements, rumors, and discussions are posted in topics of news articles posted by Westeros.org itself. This is not really ideal, as it can sometimes go off-topic. Perhaps now is the time for a forum for House of the Dragon as well. We are going to hear a lot of rumors soon, or discuss how one would adapt X or Y from the original book. We need a good place to discuss this, and I hope you will consider it. I had thought of this forum structure should you create a House of The Dragon forum:
  10. Has this been discussed yet? I don't really follow House of the Dragon news (just started reading about the Dance of the Dragons, so I can't really participate in the discussion). It's about the audition tape of the actor who plays Criston Cole. I saved the video which has now been removed (should anyone ask for it): URL I notice very clearly that they are creating new scenes for House of the Dragon with the unused material from A Song of Ice and Fire. A discussion between Alicent and Criston Cole is based on one of Catelyn's chapters with Brienne. There is a discussion of a murder by a shadow (shadow babies), which I don't think is canon, based on the little I've read about the Dance with Dragons. This worries me. The scenes between Rhaenyra and Criston, based on A Soiled Knight from A Feast of Crows, does work, in my opinion. I assume Rheanyra is older in this scene than she was in Fire & Blood (I hope so, anyway).
  11. Well, to resolve the whole Sansa storyline in season 5.... If we were to use Jeyne Poole, she would at least need a bigger role in season 1 to make her known to the viewing public. But she was not cast and everything related to her from the first book was scrapped. Another alternative is to use Ros as fSansa, while Sansa's storyline continues as usual in the Eyrie. Ros' role in Game of Thrones was not particularly memorable and her death was unnecessary. Theon and Ros also already have a "personal connection" in the TV series and she would know Winterfell fairly well as a local whore. And the character is of mature age (I think), which will already cause less controversy than was the case with Sansa (Sophie Turner still played the role of a teenager then). But please let it happen off-screen, no normal person finds such scenes entertaining. I still find it baffling that D&D didn't let the rape scenes (both Daenerys/Drogo and Sansa/Ramsay) and the sex scenes involving actors playing underage characters (Tommen/Margaery and Arya/Gendry) happen off-screen. Any other film director would avoid such controversies.
  12. I also expect a book about the same size as A Feast of Crows and A Dance with Dragons together. I can't imagine that many POV characters will have fewer chapters in The Winds of Winter than in FeastDance combined. My prediction: More chapters than in FeastDance: Areo, Arianne, Arya, Barristan, Bran, Jon Connington, Melissandre, Sansa About as many chapters as FeastDance: Aeron, Asha, Daenerys, Davos, Samwell, Victarion Fewer chapters than FeastDance: Brienne, Cersei, Jaime, Jon Snow, Theon, Tyrion
  13. I have always thought that the convergence of the POV characters leads to a more difficult writing process for George R. R. Martin. We already know that he has rewritten Quentyn's marriage proposal several times, depending on whether he arrived on time or too late (just after the wedding or days later). George likes to experiment with the possibilities. But everything also has an impact on the rest of the story. The smallest change causes the butterfly effect. George also tries to find out which POV perspective fits each chapter, depending on the events. For example: it is assumed that at an earlier stage of the original FeastDance, Tyrion's storyline ended with his kidnapping by Jorah. It would not surprise me if the original intention was for Tyrion to be present at the recruitment of the Golden Company (so the events from "The Lost Lord" would have been viewed from his point of view), then the kidnapping. But making Jon Connington POV turned out to be a much better choice, because he is emotionally much more connected to Aegon and also has more interests in putting Aegon VI on the throne. Although Aegon's campaign was originally going almost completely off-page, the new POV will give us insight into how Aegon's campaign is going. That turned out to be a good choice. This is an example of how the change of POV has a major impact on the rest of the storyline. Ditto for Quentyn. Without his POV, we wouldn't even know why he was trying to tame that dragon. We would have no insight that this was an extremely desperate act, for fear of disappointing his father. We would not be emotionally connected to him. Now we know the truth after the stories of "Daenerys fed Quentyn to the dragons" will spread. Quentyn's POV also gives the reader insight into the real consequences of Doran's "master plan". Well, enough examples. We will now talk about The Winds of Winter. In Meereen there will be four POVs: Daenerys, Barristan, Tyrion and Victarion. Knowing George R. R. Martin, he will re-visit every event that will take place there, based on the POV perspective of each of the four characters. In short, he will already have at least four variants of the same chapter, each variant a different POV perspective. The one that is most interesting will end up in the final book. Do you see how much material he writes that never ends up in the final book, and that therefore slows down the writing process? Overview of all the characters that can converge during The Winds of Winter North: Jon Snow, Melissandre, Davos, Asha, Theon (+Arya/Sansa/Bran?) Riverlands: Jaime, Brienne Oldtown: Samwell, Aeron (They both can describe Euron's campaign if necessary) Meereen: Daenerys, Barristan, Victarion, Tyrion (exclusive possible landing in Westeros and meeting with other POVs there - Jon Snow?) Crownlands: Cersei, Jon Connington, Arianne (+Jaime?) The North turns out to be a difficult situation as well. Many characters converge, it is difficult to determine from which point of view event X or Y will be viewed there. And George R. R. Martin investigates this by writing different variants of chapter X or Y from the POV perspective of different characters and comparing the end results with each other. Worst-case scenario, if George cannot choose which POV perspective, we can still expect something similar to Jon II (ADWD) and Samwell I (AFFC) - the same event will be viewed from multiple perspectives. Or also: Bran III/Jon V (ASOS, Queenscrown) - this worked great!
  14. Actually, you are right. I should actually ignore these rumours. Every year was a possible publication date that George R. R. Martin had in mind. Rumours, however, provide opportunities to start discussions. I am a fan of BryndenBFish's essays and his podcast NotACast gives good insights for the chapters from the ASOIAF books. However, if I were him, I would not spread any rumours. The internet can be very toxic if a rumour from "sources" turns out to be untrue (which can have an impact on the mental wellbeing of the distributor). The Winds of Winter is finished when it is done, how long it took to get the book done will ultimately not matter if the book is of very good quality. I believe that George R. R. Martin can live up to the high expectations.
  15. While we're not sure to what extent BryndenBFish's sources are reliable, he now claims to have known since 2019 that The Winds of Winter was originally scheduled for release in late 2020. An essay is on its way, where he will explain once more why the book has been postponed again. Possibly there is another partial reset.
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