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@Julia H. is right. Lyanna's problem with Robert goes further than a one time romance out of wedlock , a paramour or one single bastard. not to mention, comparing Rhaegar and Robert in regards of affairs is a bit problematic. the issue with R+L theory is not Lyanna's character in my view, rather it's Rhaegar's alongside the three kingsgaurds. Rhaegar's been painted as a pretty responsible guy who probably wouldn't follow his heart for months all while his country bleeds and his children -one of whom is prince that was promised- could be in danger from every corner including from grandpa king. some would suggest Rhaegar was trying to make the third head of the dragon and thus was doing what was the best for the realm during that time . but that would mean Lyanna either entered Rhaegar's plan to take up the role of lady baby maker willingly which doesn't fit her character or was deceived and seduced by an eager Rhaegar which doesn't fit the decent personality of him. and Rhaegar's "coming back from Dorne" -where his brother in law's territory is- doesn't make sense if he was with Lyanna. how could he be secretive and careful enough not to be seen in Dorne when he couldn't in Riverland where he supposedly abduct Lyanna? on the other hand , the three kingsgaurds seemed to be working for Rhaegar and Aerys , explaining why they felt they were doing their full duty to their king and prince. my guess is whatever they were doing was related to Rhaegar's journey. I think Rhaegar and his six companions were searching for something or doing something related to the prophecy... why else would the crown prince take only six companions with him and all confidants and close friends at that AND so soon after the birth of his promised prince? ... now whether every thing happened after was related to that or whether Lyanna's disappearance was related is questionable. as for Jon , I believe Lyanna is the mother and that will be the important part of Jon's parentage. but I can't quite say who might be the father. it might as well be Rhaegar , after all one single passionate night is more than enough to make baby Jon! not a prophetical scheme or an epic love that stupifies people! yet , if we don't rely on the show's plot , with the books' information other candidates for Jon's dad ( Mance , Aerys , Arthur ,even Ned and Brandon in the case Lyanna's not the mother) shouldn't be ruled out.

I always imagined Willas to be the marriage material one! M: Bloodraven B: Daemon T K: Eyron( who is this? do you mean Euron?)

Cerwyns would have let Ben and his family stay a part of their household and live as heirs and eventually probably castellans. it is also possible that Cerwyn and Ned would give them a piece of land or keep; though I imagine if Clay and his children take Cerwyn lands, Ben keeps his Stark name and make a cadet branch of house Stark instead of Cerwyn.

yes, sometimes it feels like people are so keenly supporting a certain ideology or something rather than a character that god forbids you say something wrong about it! I mean everybody should chill ... these are fictional characters , they all can be flawed in some ways in their fictional world and in many more by our modern standards! you don't have to agree with everything your favorite character does or says and at the same time you don't have to trash everything a character you don't like says or does! and if you're biased about something for whatever reason , admit it and be okay with it.. more importantly don't fight others for it!! ... it's ALRIGHT !!!

honestly that's one of my worries too. it's fair to say in our world there is a tendency towards attention grabbing titles in articles , especially when it comes to entertainments. trashing a famous series without concerning the actual context of it would make popular "articles". that is something with no remedy .. not yet anyways and a professional like Martin would understand that and would try not to let it affect him or his work. but unfortunately, I can also see it easily happening among the fans , considering the "fan base" have become way too massive. there surely will be many people who would fail to see the actual world of the story and won't be able to distinguish it from modern society and its moral , which makes the books 6 bags of insulting contents in their minds ; why these people would continue reading the series or call themselves fans of the books , I have no idea!

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come on now! be fair... how should poor Doran have known Oberyn who was going to a WEDDING CERMONY ends up voluntarily dueling the Mountain?!!! and as for Quentyn...sigh... your absolutely right.. Doran did send the poor boy all alone into the Dragon's pit, though he never suggested taming actual dragons... you know... I think Doran's stupid move of sending Quentyn himself and without a sufficient number of companions might come from his misjudgment of his son's character on top of his too much caution... Quentyn was terrible in bringing Dany the marriage proposal. since he had only two knights with him there was no presentation of Dorne's power and since Q was awkward there was no way of some good seduction or persuasion... I think Doran looked at himself with Melario and Oberyan with his ladies and thought Quentyn would be as successful!!

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I suppose you should imagine all these characters in their adult stage in this game . so you could think Rhaenys lives to grow up and then all will be well marry part is easy.. marry Egg bang fAegon kill the Conqueror latest Tyrell boys: Loras Garlan Willas

she probably "kinda forgets" who is in her list

I'm not sure that people "hate" Essos plotlines. but considering a majority of the story happens in Westeros and almost all POV characters are from Westeros , it makes sense that Westeros's plotlines have more fans. as for me... I enjoyed Tyrion , JonCon and Quentyn's chapters in Essos but not Dany's since 1)reading about slavery doesn't appeal to me 2) characters like dario and Mereenis aren't that interesting to me 3)it was a bit boring comparing to other chapters of the book.... so it all goes back to personal taste and preference rather than hatred

why Martells?

yeah I agree, but actually I'm not even sure if there's anything to forgive. Ami didn't pick up a knife at the Red Wedding killing people nor made an alliance with the Lannisters . even her father wasn't one of the orchestrators of the Red Wedding. poor Ami's only sinful act was being a bit horny and sleeping with some knights which is of course not acceptable in Westeros but it's perfectly fine in 21st century mindset.

M: Brienne B: Asha K: Dacey (honestly because I don't remember this one) Daerons: Daeron the Young Dragon, Daeron the Good , Daeron the Daring

that was meant to be sarcasm. of course a person who's called GATEHOUSE AMI isn't going to be respected. (I am seriously starting to think my english is terrible ) but Ami ( if she doesn't have brothers) is her mother's heir who herself is the oldest Darry sister left and therefore legitimate Lady Darry. so Ami could end up inheriting Darry lands.

Ami gatehouse Frey could change her name to her mother's and be lady Darry and rules Riverrun wisely

Tommen and Myrcella still have Baratheon name so they slipped my mind...... but doesn't matter since unfortunately we know they'll die before Cersei

no let's not... yeah Targs are almost done ( to 1, 2 , 3 or even more considering all the hidden Targaryen Theories!) and it seems by the end of the story they'll be completely gone:( yet Martells seem more tragic...sigh...and I personally have a soft spot for Darrys and Whents. the only family I wish get a tragic ending as in the line dies completely are the Lannisters

well I did write its summary. I'll write something more appropriate later if you like. honestly I'm not in the mood just now.

his whole story is that he cannot not be part of his family bastard or nephew or whatever...after all he didn't grow from the ground like a bush! (I wish this sentence is as compelling as it is in persian!) the boy who didn't know he'll be left alone to rule so soon and had to wear the Lord face way too early, who had to grow up too fast to go to war in order to save his father and sisters , lost his castle and his younger brothers to a close brother-like friend , was betrayed by his own mother and lost his best leverage , finally found solace in the arms of a woman in an opposing castle just to lose his life and his whole army by a bannerman and an ally's betrayal. you are right indeed. he is not that tragic! no the tragedy itself is not funny at all.

well duh! in fact all the Stark siblings' lives are tragic stories including the ones you missed out here( Robb , Jon and Rickon) and the generation before( Ned, Benjen , Lyanna and Brandon)

Peter Franzén = Davan Lanister next: Gemma Arterton

in whatever format it might be ,I hope it comes out in 2022 or 2023... after all there's going to be a show he needs to promote and a play full of spoilers

technically yes. Tysha was still Tyrion's wife since only high septon can annul marriages in this world. but Tysha and Tyrion's marriage was problematic on its own. if I remember correctly there were no witnesses in their wedding, only a drunken septon whereas Tyrion and Sansa had a wedding party and everything . and even if we take their marriage as valid, Sansa's marriage to Tyrion won't be affected because there is no proof for the first marriage ( I hardly think a westerland septon , Jaimie or the lost bride say anything)

a rich merchant prince ... far more luxuries would you rather be opposing Bitter Steel or Bloodraven in a war?