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  1. 5 hours ago, chrisdaw said:

    She is making him temporarily more pliant to the detriment of his long term health, as has been explained to her, which is the purpose of the storyline.

    Not really. What was explained to her was that Sweetrobin could be given two more doses as long as he wasn't given any more in six months, so as far as Sansa knows he's not currently in danger of suffering long term effects.

  2. 6 hours ago, Nathan Stark said:

    As to Sansa, contradictory things can be true. I believe she is slowly poisoning Sweetrobin, and deep, deep down she knows that he is being poisoned. I don't believe she wants him to die, and she appears to sincerely think that what she is doing will benefit him in the end. That said, Sansa has a real failing in her tendency for denial. It's too painful to contemplate that Sweetrobin is dying, so she deludes herself that he's just fine. It's even more painful to admit that he's dying because she is poisoning him, so she tells herself that actually the sweetsleep is helping him get better, somehow.

    Sansa does have such a tendency, but the fact remains that the last time she gave him sweetsleep was before she learned of Littlefinger's plot about her marrying Harrold Hardying. At that time, it would make no sense for Littlefinger to want Sweetrobin dead, since his whole power rested upon being his Lord Protector, so Sansa would have no conceivable reason to believe he was being poisoned. She might be closing her eyes about him being poisoned after that but this isn't the same as poisoning him herself.

  3. First of all, the last time Sansa gave Robert sweetsleep, it was with a maester's permission (A Feast for Crow, chapter 41: Alayne II):

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    “Just give him a cup of the sweetmilk before we go, and another at the feast, and there should be no trouble.”

    “Very well.” They paused at the foot of the stairs. “But this must be the last. For half a year, or longer.”

    Second (and following from the first) she can hardly be part of a plot to poison Robert when she learned of the plot only after administering the sweetsleep - she only learned of Littlefinger's plan after they went down from the Eyrie, where the above conversation happened.

    Third, Sansa definitely doesn't want Robert to die (The Winds of Winter, sample chapter: Alayne):

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    If the gods are good and he lives long enough to wed, his wife will admire his hair, surely.  That much she will love about him.

    So it's clear that Sansa isn't participating in any plot to kill Sweetrobin. At most you can accuse her of pretending not to notice others poisoning Sweetrobin, but there is hardly any evidence to reach such a conclusion.

  4. 6 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    She already is married in AFFC.

    She's married because Tywin who didn't give a damn about her well-being ordered her married. People who aren't in a hurry to steal her birthright don't think she's old enough to marry even at fourteen.

     

    6 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    If I read the books without having any knowledge of what age the characters are supposed to be, I would think they were several years older than they are. And I’ve seen other people make this observation as well, so it isn’t just me.

    Arya sometimes (not always) acts older than eleven, but certainly not sixteen. I don't agree at all with Sansa and Bran sounding older than they actually are.

    The only exception are Sansa and Arya's sample chapters from TWOW, but they're likely barely edited from they were supposed to be set after the five year gap.

  5. On 3/22/2022 at 8:50 PM, The Bard of Banefort said:

    Tyrion not wanting to marry Sansa is admittedly a bigger hurdle, but George is already pretty inconsistent about age/sex/marriage, which I talked about in (I think) the writing critique thread. Tyrion also appears to be the only one who thinks her age is a problem. Cat and Robb were upset about the marriage, but not because of her age, and Jon didn’t seem to think his 11-year-old sister was too young to be married to Ramsay.

    Catelyn specifically arranged for Arya's marriage with Elmar to be delayed until she was 16. She certainly wouldn't believe that 12 is old enough for Sansa to marry. Not everything has to be stated directly to be clear to the reader, the horrified reaction of Catelyn is enough to express her feelings.

    Jon outright calls Arya "still a child", so it's certainly incorrect that he doesn't think she's too young to marry.

  6. On 3/21/2022 at 4:38 AM, The Bard of Banefort said:
    • (Side-note: by the time we see them in AFFC/ADWD, the Stark siblings are essentially written as if they are the ages they would be had George gone forward with the gap).

    Not even remotely true. Just for an example, Sansa is considered still not old enough to marry in AFFC. Nor do any of them act like their age should be.

     

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