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  1. Darzin

    US Politics - I'm not orange I'mpeach

    But surely some people are more opportunistic then others? I understand as the public we get a managed view but some peoples convictions shine brighter than other. Bernie strikes me, and I'm not a Bernie supporter just to make this clear, but he strikes me as not really an opportunist at all he's someone whose been beating the same drum forever and now his tune is finally popular so get gets some time in the sun. Candidates are people who have core values and some have more such then others. Part of the issue as well is what are Kamala's policy preferences? I was originally a supporter of her way early in the primary it's not that she is a prosecutor it's what she did as prosecutor, and her general squishness on policies she has said twice she will ban private insurance twice and walked it back twice. In that CNN town hall she should have known her own goddamn healthcare plan, when she knew she would be asked that, and when it is the number one issue in the democratic campaign! and yet she had no idea, i'm not sure if that's opportunism or ignorance or what, but it's not something I want in a president.
  2. Give them a pass for what? The war in Iraq is over or was until we redeployed to protect a democratic government from fucking ISIS. or in Afghanistan where we are fighting the Taliban? Like yes we have been in Afghanistan forever but I have a hard time framing that war as unjust. It's not like the US military is just going around shooting random Afghans and Iraqis. I'm all for ending the forever war but most of our opponents have been pretty reprehensible.
  3. Darzin

    US Politics: Flaming the Flamenco Flamingo

    Not so much can't as won't because Trump has no one who is going to overthrow the government for him and he sure as hell isn't doing it himself because he's lazy and because no man rules alone. As much as I think the Electoral College is a bad system it's actually pretty good at preventing dictatorial power grabs because technically voters and the previous president have no say it's all up the electors and if states don't certify they also don't get a congressional delegation.
  4. Darzin

    US Politics: Flaming the Flamenco Flamingo

    Remember though... Trump has no control over the actual process, the states do, yes they could cheat but voter fraud is super rare. Remember the president has no control over elections the electors ultimately do he CAN"T cancel the election sure he can tweet he will, but who is going to listen?Remember how he tweeted about banning trans soldiers and the military and they responded that he can't issue orders via tweet. Who is going to follow those orders? Certainly not the democratic electors. Once they vote who is going to argue, on January 2020, will the government listen to Trump who derides them as a swamp or the duly elected president? As for the military the Egyptian military put one of their own in power from a cabal of generals not an outsider, Morsi was closer to Trump then Sisi is. Do you really think the Joint chiefs, who interact with Trump daily and SEE and HEAR what he is, are going to put their careers on the line for him. Yes the grunts in the army trend conservative but even then the army has a high percentage of minorities and that conservative trend diminishes dramatically when you get to the officers, and the people who you really need the higher ups have met Trump, who many of his own appointees have a loathing for ,these men who were not appointed by him are now going to go to the wire for him? Coups are usually done by the army for the army not someone who has at best a rocky relationship with them. Who else is there the Federal Bureaucracy? They despise Trump. The intelligence agencies do too. Trump is horrible at fostering allies because he's a shit human who is hard to get along with and he has no cadre of loyal followers who are close to him. He could call his deluded fans, but remember where he is DC one of the most liberal cities in the US with a Police Force and National guard to match. But that doesn't matter Trump camped in the Whitehouse will look like a deluded fool and the federal government will start taking orders from the new president. It won't come to that though, Trumps is at his core a coward and a blowhard. He'll blow and bluster but in the end he'll slink off never admitting defeat to go and whine on whatever TV show will have him.
  5. Darzin

    US Politics: Flaming the Flamenco Flamingo

    I think the idea that Trump will create a dictatorship in America is absurd. Trump is rightly criticized everyday for not understanding the nuts and bolts of governing, messing around ,golfing and not paying attention in meetings. The idea that Trump could pull off a coup is laughable. Creating a dictatorship is hard work and I don't think he could even pretend to have what it takes. Whether he concedes or not the winner of 2020 will be sworn in and that will be that. As our Republican friends love to remind us America is a republic not a pure democracy and the Electoral College chooses the president not the voters. As long as the Electoral College votes for the Democrat. Trump has no real means to contest the election. Sure he could say he will, and will probably tweet LIES RIGGED and who knows what else; but once the electoral college votes are cast, a million little wheels start turning in preparation for the next president and the full wait of the inertia of American institutions bears down, and I doubt Trump has the knowledge or the attention span to stop that. Tweeting angrily about rigged elections and refusing to admit he lost does not a coup make. Roy Moore never conceded in Alabama and yet Doug Jones is a senator not him.
  6. Darzin

    US Politics: Flaming the Flamenco Flamingo

    They are buying them with what would be their profits. Amazon invests virtually all of what would be their profits back into themselves through the form of investing in Amazon and acquiring rivals. They are not losing money in the traditional sense they are just doing what a lot of start ups do perpetually but so far most investors seem ok with it.
  7. Darzin

    u.s. politics: sundowning on the american empire

    From most woke, to casually racist, I can't believe Zorral of all people is here complaining about the annoying Arabs and rich Chinese.
  8. Some people have decided that since Trump is a threat to liberal democracy, we need to jettison liberal democracy and have a violent revolution... to preserve liberal democracy.
  9. Also can this board tell me if ICE agents are evil or not? Because in the last thread I was told that of course the democrats will enforce border regulation and yet I don't see a lot of people here disagreeing with the idea ICE is evil just whether they should be killed or not? Deportation is on of the necessary functions of government no?
  10. Of course... but what if the people vote in some fascist again we'll need someone to stop that, maybe a vanguard party? Only to protect us from people like Trump who have abandoned democracy.
  11. Darzin

    US Politics: Wondering the Acosta

    That is my point right now a lot of democrats that are playing Schrodinger's border patrol. Of course when they are in the government there will be regulation and management, but right now such things are being criticized. Both on the campaign trail and here. when @Triskele suggested the dems cosmetically tack right on immigration, say I dunno... advocate for better regulation and management, there was an uproar that if we compromise we will be giving into racism. My whole point is sense we know dems are going to enforce immigration law acting like they won't or doing so is racist is stupid and an unforced error, in addition to being somewhat hypocritical.
  12. Darzin

    US Politics: Wondering the Acosta

    Yes I understand that, I understand Trump has made a lot of this, I understand the cruelty is the point, I understand Trump has made things deliberately worse, but this has led some democrats down the wrong path in that they are arguing against the existence of immigration enforcement not the inhuman way Trump is doing it. The poster I quoted called immigration raids fascist so I asked if Obama was one for presiding over it. It's not both siding, I'm not saying democrats are equally as bad, I'm saying that the second a democrat is elected all those people calling deportation racist and fascist are going to not say a peep. So all those people telling Triskele and Jace that we can't take a harder line on immigration because of teh morals are wrong wrong wrong, because when a democrat is elected none of them will say a peep. Now let me be clear is Trump a racist, yes absolutely, are the conditions in his camps deplorable absolutely, could he make them better but chooses not to yes absolutely, are ICE and CPBP deeply racist institutions that need reform yes absolutely, is it inherently racist to detain people who lack the proper documentation or legal right to be in a country? No, it isn't. So democrats should pass the bill to improve conditions and then lambast Trump when conditions don't improve. They can advocate for increased legal immigration with increased enforcement, which is incidentally what Trump ran on. Except you know actually do it. Increasing the number of undocumented immigrants helps no one as it's just increasing a marginalized class, we should be for reducing that number and increasing legal immigration and border enforcement is part of that.
  13. Darzin

    US Politics: Wondering the Acosta

    Is it wrong to enforce current immigration law? These organizations and institutions functioned under Obama, Obama deported millions. I get Trump is doing it inhumanely, ut you are arguing that to deport anyone is fascism? Which I think is a larger problem their people here saying we need to morally argue against all this, but where was this strong conviction when Obama was in office? And when president Kamala or Warren or whoever, continues deporting people will people call them racist scream it's a moral issue? No, no one will say anything. Look Trump is a racist I get it, and the cruelty of his camps is the point I get it, but Trump on immigration has kind of broke the democratic party and the left, none of them are arguing open borders but many of the candidates are effectively arguing that enforcing any border law is immoral. I think this kind of loose rhetoric will hurt the democrats and no one will care if a dem is in office all these existential moralities will simply melt away.
  14. Darzin

    US Politics: RIP EHK FYVM GOP

    The thing about minority rights started with immigration. Taking a more hard line on immigration, which I believe is what Triskele was talking about, is not inherently racist it's not reducing minority's to admit less people to America. Our current quotas were not handed down by God they can change.
  15. Darzin

    US Politics: 40 Acres and Barack Obama

    Th That happened with Iraq which has a much more careful build up Hillary fucking Clinton voted to invade there. If Trump randomly starts a shooting war and we lose some troops and boat it will look like an ill advised folly and an act of native aggression and it would be the first military loss for the US felt by the public since the Tet offensive.
  16. Darzin

    US Politics: 40 Acres and Barack Obama

    But how do people like it when Iran bombs back? Iran is much stronger then Iraq ever was there are US bases and ships in range of Iranian missiles a war with Iran could easily cause a few thousand US casualties in the first week.
  17. Darzin

    US Politics: 40 Acres and Barack Obama

    I think that a war with Iran is one of the surest ways Trump could lose reelection people are tired of war and unlike Iraq and Afghanistan Iran can actually defend itself. Sure the US would win but more casualties then Iraq and Afghanistan combined in the first week is going to hurt and there's always the chance Iran gets lucky and destroys a Carrier.
  18. This is what I meant by defacto open borders. No one says we want open borders but there are people arguing against having detainment camps on principle both here and on r/politics if we can't detain people who enter the US without visa then we have open borders. It's not the camps existence that is immoral it's how they are run.
  19. I think you can advocate for less immigration without being a racist, and ultimately we do need some controls on immigration so you're always going to have migrants detained in places. I think the Democrats have gone a little bit nuts on immigration frankly, not the politicians but the base large portions of them are comparing these migrant detention camps to concentration camps ect. And are defacto arguing for open borders and ignoring the fact Obama had camps and the next Democratic president will as well part of running a country is controlling who enters it Trump is a cruel racist that doesn't mean borders are racist.
  20. I live in Washington where we do just this. My point is that no one in this situation is making less then the minimum, and most are making a fair bit more.
  21. The $2.13 thing is incorrect anyway, in that no one lives off tips, if you don't make at least minimum wage your employer is required to make up the difference the $2.13 thing is only if you make MORE than minimum wage from tips.
  22. Darzin

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    But as everyone has said holding the caslte does not mean doing nothing. If you think holding a castle means simply sitting inside the walls then the second part of the order, protecting Robb's rear makes no sense. Edmure can't protect Robb's rear if he refuses to send his troops outside Riverun.
  23. For me it rekindled my interest in the books, up to season 7 the show had been doing a decent enough job and I was content watching Game of Thrones for my ASOIAF fix. But now that the show has torched the landing I'm keen to see the book ending. I don't think it really can be the same. How can Bran be king in the books? He is a freaking tree, so that enough shows that whatever there similarities the show has landed a good ways from the books.
  24. Darzin

    US Politics: Don't Panic - Organize

    They won't because these laws you are talking about, are supported by the majority of people in Alabama. Everyone here is talking about how much these laws hurt women, but it's ignoring that in the states these laws are passing they are supported by a majority of women. When you say rise up, who? Those who are against these laws don't for the most part live in Alabama. The people of Alabama have been chomping at the bit to pass these laws for decades. They'll get them and just like Kansas they'll regret it. They've been able to keep up support because it's a lot easier to be in favor of banning something when it's academic and you don;t suffer the consequences of actually enacting the ban, see the Republicans and the ACA.
  25. I strongly disagree with this. If it were true all the poor whites would be voting for the democrats instead of voting to lower billionaire taxes. Ideology and self interest have a weird relationship it's not an either or thing. Also Mayor Pete might not be as far left on policy as Bernie or Warren but painting him as a neoliberal white supremacist is just nuts. He's to the left of Obama was Obama a neoliberal shill? Also there is more to a candidate then a few litmus test. Mayor Pete is the most radical candidate I've seen when it comes to the US government structure. He's proposed abolishing the electoral college, increasing the supreme court to fifteen justices, and adding new states such as Puerto Rico and DC, I haven't seen him asked about the filibuster yet but those are some pretty radical changes to our government.