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  1. GrimTuesday

    US Politics: Money, Money, Money Makes the World Go Round

    I think one thing we can say is that the attack on M4A that Unions are afraid of losing the healthcare they have is not as potent an attack as they had hoped. It really felt like the establishment really thought they had found the attack line that would slow Bernie's roll, but in a strongly union state it feel flat even with union leadership banging that drum. As far as the results as they stand now, it shows that Amy in NH was probably an aberration, Pete takes a beating since his entire argument is predicated on him doing well in two incredibly white states. Biden is looking ok so far as more returns come in, but South Carolina will be where we learn if he is actually going to be a contender, or just a paper tiger. It gives me no pleasure to say this because I do really like her, but I think that Warren is done, even a strong debate performance didn't really move the needle in Nevada.
  2. Honestly it is a real shame that she hasn't been running like this the whole time. When she started equivocating on M4A and got away from what made her popular, namely eviscerating bankers and other corporate toadies is exactly when her campaign started stalling out.
  3. There is a reason that he is leading in Latino support.
  4. Pete kills pets because he is mad, Bloomberg does it because it is the only way he can feel.
  5. Warren is not my first choice but holy shit she is on fire tonight. She never looks better than when she is going after guys like Bloomberg. Biden is a fucking ghost, Klobuchar and Pete are in a slap fight, and Bernie has done a great job weathering the attacks against him.
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    US Politics: I Say a Little Prayer for You!

    It's not about the delegates, it is about narrative. It is the difference between saying that you tied, and that you won. Sure, you could say that a tie is just as good as a win for an outsider running against opponents who have a much higher profile that you, but you're not actually a winner. The right wing of the party seems to be dipping their toes into the water of backing Pete now that Biden is slipping in the polls, and they have an interest in blocking Bernie. At this point, I'm fine calling what happened in Iowa a massive blunder, and not an act of malice against one candidate, but the way that the DNC is handling this reeks of political malpractice. There are some 90 errors that are known to exist, and in a close race like this they could make a huge difference. Coupled with Team Pete trying to minimize the weight of the satellite caucus', which were primarily attended by minority and working class populations and went overwhelmingly for Bernie because basically no other candidates bothered to get people to go, all give the impression that the DNC is putting it's hand on the scale.
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    US Politics: I Say a Little Prayer for You!

    We clearly come from two different frames of mind, to me comparing a rant to Sorkin is an insult. Here is the video I was referencing earlier. The way that the "mainstream" of the Democratic party talks about Bernie is irrational. Chris Matthews is one of MSNBC's "stars", his voice carries significant weight with viewers and this is just blatant fearmongering. This is Fox News level fearmongering.
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    US Politics: I Say a Little Prayer for You!

    Man, it is time to put guys like Chris Matthews out to pasture. Watching the MSNBC post debate coverage because Sam Seder is going to be on at some point, and Matthews is rambling about how socialism is bad because Castro would have been executing people in Central Park. Just plain unhinged. My personal favorite tweet I saw during the debate
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    US Politics: I Say a Little Prayer for You!

    No, not really. Steyer is ok, He has some upside, and if I'm voting for a Billionaire it's him over Bloomberg 100% of the time. That said, his policies are not as good as Sanders or Warren.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    I'm not saying that they are inflating Pete, I'm saying that they have been fucking up Bernie's numbers. In Polk County they were reporting 21 SDE that should have gone to Sanders for Deval Patrick. They have since corrected it, but this is still sketchy that they reported this info in the first place. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't might as well make sure they got it right the first time around. As I said, not malicious just incompetent. Pete went up about 8 points (19%) and Bernie is up 1 (25%) in NH, with Biden losing 7 points (11%) and Warren dropping 1 (11%).
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Romney is from Utah, which while still red, is not really big on Trump, this vote does not hurt him at all. So anyone still paying attention to Iowa? There seems to be a number of data errors and they all center around Bernie losing votes. I'm still not saying they are purposely rigging anything, but they sure are blundering in that direction.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    75% of this speech is just emotional manipulation. These people are being used as political props. It is extremely effective if you aren't engaged, like Lollygag said above,
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Trump is going hard for the Black vote tonight. I'm getting a pit in my stomach about this election.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Obviously I have nothing but disdain for Pete, I think I have made that clear, but there is a real critique of him being disingenuous and frankly I'd be worry about him getting hit on that if I were a Pete supporter. I've seen that poll too, but I think that Steyer is not viable in the long run. He doesn't have the backing of the rightwing (what a lot of folks are prone to calling the moderates) of the Democratic Party that someone like Bloomberg has, and Warren and Bernie have the left wing of the party on lockdown. Steyer does not actually have a real defined voting block.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    God I hate these electoral college type system. Bernie's lead is slim as far as the popular vote, but you should never lose in terms delegates when you win the popular vote, and before anyone accuses me of saying that because Bernie might get screwed on that, this has been my position since I was 10 and learned about the 2000 election. That said, if I had to pick a moderate to come out looking strong it would 100% be Pete. Not only does he have a weaker record, but he suuuuuuuuuucks with black voters. I think once Biden and the Obama nostalgia stops sucking the air out of the room, African Americans are going to go to Bernie over Pete.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Hey Kal, we may disagree on who should get the nod, but I think we can probably agree that whoever was running the caucus this year should be sealed inside a pyramid.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Folks this Biden speech is rambling.Folks this Biden speech is pablum FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS *brain liquification at 45%*
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    The most insane part is that everyone saw this app thing coming, and did absolutely nothing about it. I heard a lot of talk on twitter about issues with the app in the lead up.
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    US politics - sometimes political jokes get elected

    Apparently the Iowa Democratic party is doing "quality control" on results "out of an abundance of caution." That coupled with this shady phone app is making this a bit of a clown show. Are they trying to project that there is fuckery going on?
  20. I do see flaws, his history with gun control, he needs to better articulate how class and race are inherently linked to name a couple, but those are minor in comparison to the flaws I see in others. For the most part, with the exception of Warren, there is no one in the race who I have confidence will make the changes needed to actually make a real difference. I think that Bernie absolutely gets racial issues but he sees it as part and parcel with class. Even if you disagree with his assessment of how to frame it he certainly has the best record of anyone the stage, including Biden who gets a lot (way too much if you ask me) of credit for being Obama's VP.
  21. What has incrementalism done for us? Passed a Republican healthcare plan? They have compromised away many of the hard fought victories that people, left wing people, fought and died for. Your incrementalism has been the true bane of progress because we were always going to have enemies in the right, they were always going to fight us, but it has been center left that has always stabbed us in the back. When someone tells you they think that we should just let people starve you don't counter with just letting some of them starve. Sanders is actually our best hope of winning the senate, he has the most energy behind him in terms of passionate support and that will translate to better results in down ballot races. Honestly I am not sure. The hope is that the movement that Bernie has built can be a countervailing force to the rising tide of fascism and autocracy we are seeing in America. And to say that I won't go in for half measures is not quite right. It's not like I (and the majority of Bernie's) aren't willing to vote for the lesser evil and I recognize that not every fight will result in a victory but you can't start from a compromised position. A lot of the plans that are being proposed by other candidates have already compromised so much that by the time the republicans are done with it, it will be toothless and possibly counterproductive. You just have to fight until you can fight no more. Sander's message is basically tailor made to win in places like Michigan, places that have been left behind.
  22. What are we supposed to be introspective about? Seems to me we are in a fight for the very future of our planet, and everyone else is offering half measures.
  23. That is bullshit, Sanders worked his butt off to get Clinton elected, that narrative is garbage. Bernie did 36 rallies in 13 different states in the last three months of the election. I'm gonna trot out this statistic that has been said a thousand time but apparently needs to be said again, 13% of 2016 Bernie supporters voted for Trump vs 24% of 2008 Clinton supporters voted for McCain. Sure, a higher percentage may have voted third party or may have just not voted, but those are valid votes whether Clinton wants to admit it or not. Clinton was never entitled to our votes, the Democratic party ran the primary like a coronation and Clinton got offended we didn't all bow down. I voted for Clinton in 2016, but that was me holding my nose and voting maybe it's time the conservative wing of the party is the one that gets in line and we will see what the left wing can do.
  24. Yeah well he also aggressively defended Stop and Frisk and set up a massive illegal surveillance network specifically targeting Muslims not just in New York but also in neighboring states, so fuck that guy.
  25. If Pete was did well in that poll they wouldn't care if he was left off one pollster's questions, I think his numbers were not good on that poll. That said, if it was a broader more widespread issue, fair enough. One to watch out for with Iowa is that even if Bernie wins the popular vote, Iowa uses a electoral collage type system where delegates are awarded by county, which Biden very well could win due to his more consistent support across the state rather than in the population centers. I think it is high time we stop giving smaller numbers of people outsized influence. Also can't help but laugh at Tom Watson already calling Iowa results invalid
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