Jump to content


  • Posts

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by Precioushobbits

  1. There. Fixed it for you. Haha brilliant. I still find myself mimicking this scene from the movie almost 25 years later. You have good tastes.
  2. Yes, and it’s rather like watching an episode of intervention. Tragic, ugly, depressing, and utterly captivating. Ironically, I’m the addict here. A sane reader would have moved on long ago.
  3. 25 years of rabid fans stewing over the unfinished story makes lots of otherwise subtle details seem so blatant as to be red herrings. I think GRRM has been slowed trying to tie everything together and still surprise, delight, and shock while delivering his bleak message.
  4. I suspect that Ned’s subconscious skirts around the promise he made, because his ”see with your eyes” instinct to take his sister at face value puts him squarely at odds with his code and tolerable variances in his working reality. He desires to explain her plea within a framework he can accept. While this memory is willfully neglected, I believe his fever dream skates along the crux of the matter demonstrating its importance and the lack of a resolution his subconscious accepts. I think he found his fierce, passionate, and chivalric sister in a state of mind so foreign to her nature that he attributed her fervent last request to her frail condition. I think it was easier to do that then to open the dark tomb of family lore and consider it with a fresh perspective that could ironically require an even more stark acceptance that there are no good choices. Only pragmatic compromises with one’s ethics that will allow the pack to survive. I think Lyanna was privy to some prophesy or knowledge that had recently “snapped shut on her prick” and she was now horribly aware of her error. I think Jon is the culmination of a breeding program geared to move the chains in the next round of conflict between hive-minded entities (gods) whose desires and purpose will continue to hover at the periphery - fleeting, shadowy and obscure. We occasionally glimpse the tangible agents, but the cosmic powers remain shrouded. I think Lyanna found out Jon would be a champion for these powers and asked Ned to kill him to try and prevent another mini apocalypse.
  5. Yea suspect it goes back to the fact that humans are pawns or at best ignorant accomplices in some primordial feud. As has been noted here before, we have to ask ourselves who is the driver in a skin changer bond or dragon-bond. The non-human may have a lot more influence then is recognized. Wargs seem to be more of a marriage but what about dragons and other forms of ski changing. How much other comes back into the human. From the examples we have quite a bit. Quite simply who is skin-changing who? I suspect it’s very muddy and Danny’s upcoming embrace of fire and blood is probably partially related to this. Maybe we could entertain that Balerion ruled Westeros through his chosen human line. I do think all the taboos, Haggon’s Abominations, stem from experience with the he consequences of absorbing too much of the other or vice versa. Dragon blood wolf blood ect. It’s all letting the other drive too much. Things like eating humans or mating with others while sharing the other’s skin exacerbate and accelerate this and leave the human demonic or less empathetic and connected to human kind. Hence the merciless hunting and killing. Perhaps the Bastard of Bolton has a large dose. The ritualized hunt, rape and skinning seems to combine this element and some forgotten but still intuitive/ingrained ritual of sacrifice. The worst of the beast with the worst of the human.
  6. If she is preggers and Rob named Jon his heir it will be interesting. That would be additional ammo for the Stoneheart to go after Jon, not that she needs one. I think some might miss the fact that Catelyn the wife and mother with agency is gone and only the revenant remains. I don’t expect LSH to have any ethical boundaries or conscious remaining in her quest for revenge. Just like a Beric - I hazard the last emotion/passion the human had before rising as a fire wight will consume them - in purpose, thought and physical agency. True zealots of a cause. Fire picks them for their passion.
  7. Yes, GRRM all but shouts it at us. “prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is . . . and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time.” No wish fulfillment coming our way. Real politik in Westeros is brutal enough. I can’t imagine how the end of the remaining world order will be. A expect a glutton for tragedy, revenge and angst to be satiated by the end.
  8. What if Stark isn’t a family name, but a title or type of being. Then there always has to be a Stark in Winterfell could have a whole new meaning. As well as the merging of Northern bloodlines into one house. What if they are sharing the burden of a curse?
  9. I love this. Perhaps the wards were being fed from both sides - ie wildings pushing South every so often and seperately from bastards being send to the wall or through the wall. Perhaps an element of the First Men were taking vengeance on Andals during the migrations with ice magic learned from the Others and it got out of control. Bran mentions how the Children are not angry, but that men would be. The first men allies of the Others, their friends and allies who were also being slowly pushed out might have hit the nuclear button. King Sherrit, perhaps a Stark, might have done just that from the Night Fort in calling down his curse on the Andals. Another Stark, in a battle of hellhounds, might have went to the children and conspired to chain the heart of winter and contain the fallout. The solution was a barrier that required much sacrifice. The children might have provided the skill (keeping it up with their Greenseers in the weirwoodgrove) and the men the building blocks (sacrifice).
  10. When I read this post10 years ago, I thought owwww shit...he is right...and I wasn't happy about it. However, I couldn't escape that it mostly fit. It was clear from the tone of the series and how it artfully trudged through all the faults of humanity, realpolitik, unglamorous deaths, and brutalities of war that it was pointing to a tragic or at least melancholy ending. I believe one of the series primary themes, beyond entertainment, is that compromise should not be scorned. Both compromise with other tribes and compromise with our own values, goals and ambitions. I still agree with the central tenants of this theory today and have enjoyed watching from afar as very intelligent and very batty heretics helped refine it into something very much the same and yet so much more. I don't have much to add, except that I have stopped taking any of the origin fairytale stories, with their specific characters, literally and generally interpret them as relating, very foggily, to clashes between tribes of peoples/creatures and their cultural practices. I believe that most of the stories relating to the Night Fort are conveying the sacrificial practices of First Men who had adopted many cultural aspects from the Others. I believe the Stark's were the unhappy architects of a backed-into-a-corner armistice with the Others (last hero) and this is why they are doomed to a cold hell. The Others were tired of slowly losing to humans and had gone full nuclear with armies of the dead. The Others' would rest their angry Greenseers, spirits from hewn Weirwoods, and armies of the dead, in return for a Wall and magical ammo (aka sacrifices). The Starks would be given magical assistance (Dire Wolves, ect) to obtain and retain political hegemony and enforce the armistice. They would be the high priests of the required sacrifices and wardens of the Wall in service of keeping the armistice. They would also be given dragonglass periodically to signify a contractual renewal between the Others and the realms of men. They would in return ensure a regular buffet of sacrifices. The other human survivors at the time might have even been in favor of the deal. The Lords right to the first night takes on a whole new shade of evil when you consider it was most likely a tool to produce sacrifices. That is why Jon "Snow" is an evil name. He is marked as a sacrifice. I should mention here that the nature of the sacrifice might not be a gruesome death, but a shove through the Black Gate, to restock a manageable herd of humans (wildings) they could tap for magical juice or use as wright cannon fodder. I would suggest that the stories of Mad Axe, the Rat Cook, and the Prentice Boys in Chains are all ultimately stories surrounding the true nature of the Night Fort...that of sacrifice to the Others. The Rat Cook is ultimately forced to consume his own children, much like Craster does by sacrificing his sons. When a new wave of people, the Andals, slowly conquered and assimilated in a glacial push across Westeros they eventually pushed out some highly incompatible cultural practices. They repurposed the Night's Watch and reworded the oath to suite their world view and belief system. This likely occurred over a long time period, but it would seem at some point along the way, maybe as recent as good Queen Alysanne, all the active 'Black Gate' sacrifices were stopped and replaced with voluntary life service (another form of sacrifice). I do believe sometime early in the Andal migration, that a Stark in Winterfell stabbed his relative the Night's King in the back. In a time of changing cultural mores it became politically expediate to distance themselves from any common ground with the Others. One thing I'm sure of is that I have holes in these beliefs. I felt compelled to contribute the core elements of my gut feeling, from what I’ve gleaned from all the strongly documented theories over the years, just this once. I'll be content to read theories for another 10 years.
  • Create New...