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  1. On 6/18/2024 at 4:58 PM, DMC said:

    Yeah I found it weird they not only decided to start the season pretty much right as summer is officially starting, but also on Father’s Day.  Although I suppose with the heat wave this week more people should be staying in.

    When it’s warm they go to the beach

  2. 18 minutes ago, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said:

    Still decent numbers, though.

    Ah, THR had a better article, cited comparisons: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/house-of-the-dragon-season-2-premiere-ratings-1235924887/


    Still, the 7.8 million viewers for House of the Dragon‘s first night positions the show for another huge season. In comparison, True Detective: Night Country averaged about 13 million viewers per episode for its entire season, including multiple weeks of streaming and other delayed viewing. Season two of The White Lotus came in at 10.1 million viewers, and the final season of Succession averaged 8.7 million — only 900,000 more than what HotD amassed on one night.

    BLAH! It was a historically low night across TV in general due to the Tony Awards!

    And of course it was Father's Day - people usually go out or have a barbecue on Father's Day in the USA (I did, but got home in time for the show...what this DID wreck was in later weeks I plan to you know, take a NAP on Sunday afternoon so I'm more energetic for the show and aftermath late at night).

    Also consider that we've shifted to a different time of year: people go out more in summer months so compare that to the autumn release last time.

  3.  ....there are now promo images and some posted storyboard art....indicating some major changes coming in weeks ahead:


    first, the "weeks to come" trailer shows The Twins, and what appears to be JACE treating with them.

    Second...storyboard art is circulating around indicating that Cregan is with the Winter Wolves when they come to the Twins. 

    This led me to ponder.... will Sara Snow show up THEN? And...will Sara be functionally merged with Black Aly Blackwood?

    Third, we saw a storyboard of Rhaena with a dragon, matching the earlier leaks that she finds one, so I'm not surprised -- it DOES NOT confirm WHICH dragon it is, Sheepstealer or Morning.


  4. 4 minutes ago, Ran said:

    Finished a nice interview with Ryan Condal, but may be a day or two before posting as we are exhausted (interview was literally an hour after we got back to Gothenburg from Stockholm). I think he gives some good answers on the Blood and Cheese front, and reveals some interesting details on dragon saddles (a lot of thought has gone into them), where he is on where exactly the series will end, some of the reading material he's looked at as research, and a few other odds and ends.

    Yeah I can't handle a new info dump right now, you should wait for the weekend :)

    We murder sleep.  Me and everyone else is reading through all the post-premiere instant-reactions. Better to post when the "tide" of chatter has fallen back down on the weekend.

  5. I like not this news...

    Viewership numbers for the Season 2 premiere were down a full 22% compared to the Season 1 premiere.


    Season 1 premiere was 9.99 Million, Season 1 finale was 9.3 million. Season 2 premiere was 7.8 million.

    These of course are only United States numbers, but it's relative to itself between Seasons 1 and 2.

    These are the combined viewer numbers for HBO cable channel and Max (in Season 1 roughly a third was from HBO, two thirds HBO Max). 

    They're touting this as a record high for "Max" - technically it is...because it was called "HBO Max" back in Season 1.

    They DO say it set international records and as their best ever release in Europe....but don't give exact figures.

    These numbers could not possibly have been affected by negative reaction to the content of the Season 2 premiere itself - we'll see the fallout from that next week.

  6. 9 minutes ago, Lord Varys said:

    I'd say in Emma's case it was mostly make-up

    I was impressed by Emma’s use of whole body language more than “These Faces”


    That is just Talya, not the entire royal household

    Well they can always get more smallfolk.

  7. Other lore mentioned this episode:

    - First mention of Dalton Greyjoy

    - First mention of Ormund Hightower 

    - First mention by name that Aemond is betrothed to Floris Baratheon (the comely one)

    - Alicent’s mother was “Alerie Florent”

    - First time “The Crownlands” have ever been referred to by name in live action (not once in 8 seasons of Game of Thrones)

    - Cregan’s 2,000 grey beard hardened veterans actually are identified as the “Winter Wolves” on a costume name tag in the behind the scenes video 

    - the not really canon Valyria history book props are clearly visible in the behind the scenes video, say Daenys was the rider of Balerion and her mother was named Elaena. No mention of Sphinxes (yet!)



  8. 1 hour ago, Lord Varys said:

    As plot element the fact that Otto, Aegon, and Helaena neither notice nor care about such a big thing and that it is treated as something you can just mention in passing is not exactly great writing. It rank way too much after the magical powers Littlefinger had in the show.

    Elephant in the room: they had to explain why Talya isn’t back for Season 2….because she’s Miguel Sapochnick’s wife.

  9. 24 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

    I wonder when the custom of 1 man in 10 going to the Night’s Watch… stopped?

    When we first heard of this scene from advance screenings the “one man in ten draws lots” thing didn’t make sense to me - but now with full context I actually thought it was nice worldbuilding, to explain how the Watch kept its numbers up in peacetime. That it’s an idea Torrhen came up with post-Conquest after the Dragon’s Peace dried up the usual stream of recruits from the losing sides in wars.

    I would assume the true neglect of the Watch may have begun after the Winter Fever gutted the North’s manpower.

    Overall, the 5 minutes we got of the North wasn’t without its nice points: the recruitment idea, and the dialogue as scripted set up the Winter Wolves and DID establish “dragons refuse to cross the Wall”…

    but this should have been a two or three episode subplot. Should have rounded out Cregan as a character just explaining “my uncle tried to usurp me” (could have been two lines of dialogue) and we hoped for explaining “we voted for Rhaenys because of the New Gift land seizure”…..this SHOULD have been in, and only needed like two more scenes. Even if they wanted to cut Sara Snow (I’d have at least given her a cameo).

    so no “bad” but we wanted more.


  10. 8 hours ago, Lord Varys said:

    That is not necessarily an error as the chances are good that Jaehaerys and Alysanne visited the Wall (again) together later in life. Would still not have been Cregan's dad who showed it to them then as that was Rickon Stark, not Ellard Stark who was Lord of Winterfell at the Great Council.

    Still, though, not exactly a great decision and the whole thing about Torrhen and Aegon treating at the Wall made no sense. They could have met there, too, at another occasion, but not to discuss terms of surrender. When would that have happened? After Aegon conquered the entire North and caught Torrhen the very moment before he wanted to hide with the wildlings?

    Yes…there are potential explanations but I did raise an eyebrow.

  11. 9 hours ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    The actor has a lot of potential, but Cregan Stark felt like GOT cosplay to me. It was like watching someone try to dress up and pretend to be Jon Snow (sorry)

    I agree…but how much can we expect the actor to develop his performance when he only has ONE scene, just 5 minutes? 

    They didn’t give Tom Taylor much to work with.

  12. 10 hours ago, Corvinus85 said:

    Cregan's father showed King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne the Wall? Did the writers forget the huge timeline that the first season covered? Alaric Stark was the only Stark to receive that visit. He's what Cregan's great-grandfather? We saw Rickon Stark in season 1 swearing his oath to young Rhaenyra. I wish that scene had been set at Winterfell, really. 

    Was this some later meeting ?

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