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  1. I am really tied to the theory that Cersei sets King's Landing on fire before Jaime puts her out of her misery (and perhaps she to him as well). That brings everything full circle, which is Martin's proclivity. This would happen after the Others are defeated and Daenerys's army is marching on King's Landing, so the beginning of episode six.
  2. The last episode pretty much confirmed that Daenerys is immune up until she gives birth. As for Sansa, as I noted before, they have at most four episodes of plot development before the big battle, so I doubt there is sufficient time to develop any romantic angle relating to her character. I am more interested in how the Theon and Arya arc will play out. Does Theon hijack the Golden Company or does he just save his sister? If you guys have read the spoilers you know that . . . Given that, I do think a marriage with Euron is in the cards, since Cersei has nothing left. There is also this from The Winds of Winter:
  3. Look, you do not have Daenerys say "I cannot have children," "I am barren," and "The dragons are the only children I will ever have" approximately 3,872 times without a baby. This is Benioff and Weiss. This is what they do.
  4. I guess the good news is that, mercifully, they can only do it for a couple of episodes each, so two episodes of Starks v. Daenerys, then two episodes of Jon v. the Truth.
  5. Admittedly, that does seem to be where this is going. I have kind of made my peace with the first two but I do hope that Martin comes up with a more creative end for Tyrion.
  6. I am already dreading the faux tension and the next season is at least 18 months away. My comment on a lot of these theories is that some of you are vastly overestimating the amount of material left before the battle with the Others. We have six episodes. The fifth one is obviously the battle. The sixth is obviously the wrap-up, which will undoubtedly include time skips to deal with missing ends (i.e., Daenerys returning to a King's Landing made ashes after Cersei went Aerys 2.0 rather than give up the city, Jaime choking Cersei to death, Daenerys giving birth and dying in the process, etc.) So, really, we have four episodes of lead up and that's it. Benioff and Weiss are already taking about things in terms of scenes, not even episodes. They have all the scenes mapped out already. That should tell you something.
  7. It goes back to that scene with Aemon and the ever greater temptation. He is continually tempted to break his vows, each time greater than the last, and each time he will hold steadfast. First it was to avenge his father and fight with Robb against the Lannisters. Next it was the offer to save Arya and have Winterfell for himself. Whereas the last, greatest temptation will be the throne and Daeneyers. I am also not very confident about Jon dying. I am much more certain about Daenerys' fate than his. What I cannot envision is him taking the throne. That is just so against his character. I find it far more likely that he goes and lives among the Wildings than that. Or even him becoming Coldhands 2.0 to Bran's Three-Eyed Crow 2.0. There is also this point that keeps being reinforced in the story that many seem to keep ignoring. Jon Snow has always been Jon Snow. While we know that he is, in fact, a Targaryen and Stark, he would never define himself that way because he was never brought up that way. So what if there is a paper signed by Robb saying he is a Stark or a dusty scroll proving that he is the legitimate son of Rhaegar and Lyanna? He was never raised that way. That is not who he is. Someone coming up to him and telling him he is king does not change everything that came before. Besides, these kind of conventional fantasy storylines are anathema to Martin. There are no simple solutions and rainbows at the end of his stories. The same, by the way, applies to Daenerys. She might get her Iron Throne and a child (both of which I am quite certain about), but the former will be to rule over a pile of ashes and the latter will kill her. If there is one rule that looks unbreakable in Martin's universe, it's that his characters never get what they want.
  8. I think readers would do well to re-read the end of Jon's eighth chapter from A Game of Thrones to get a sense of where his story is going. I'm not entirely convinced that Jon becomes the KITN in the books. I lean towards that being a show invention and oversimplification. Stannis will not lose to the Boltons in Martin's story, and the point of Jon's story has always been of resisting temptation.
  9. I think the answer is that because in the books, Jaime does not return to King's Landing until after the fight with the Others. However, since they decided to nuke what he is doing in the books (i.e., Catelyn, the Riverlands, etc.), they just decided to have him go back to Cersei for lack of anything else to do. A lot of these logical inconsistencies stem from Benioff and Weiss shortening the series. If you read Daenerys' chapter in the House of the Undying again, you will notice that the Lannisters do not show up. Her opponents are spelled out: A blue-eyed king who casts no shadow raises a red sword in his hand (i.e., Stannis?) A cloth dragon sways on poles amidst a cheering crowd (i.e., Aegon). A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows (i.e., the Others). Well, since they got rid of Aegon, they had to substitute Cersei in, and since they got rid of Catelyn, they had to substitute Arya, plus have Jaime do something else for a season and a half. In the books, if I had to guess, Cersei probably never loses the the capital, even as Aegon steamrolls her armies outside of it. Aegon ends up fighting Daenerys and losing. Then Daenerys gets distracted by events up North and Jon convinces her to go there rather than invade King's Landing.
  10. I do worry about Arya and the show's treatment of her. I'm not sure they have the courage to have her face what I believe to be the consequences of her actions (i.e., the Faceless Men). I think they might lose their nerve. But by substituting her with Jaime, that screws up the ending for three characters -- would Benioff and Weiss really be that egregious? I shudder to think.
  11. That is not remotely similar. It loses all the weight of the idea. The whole point is that Jaime cannot bring himself to kill Cersei like he did Aerys even though he knows she is as bad as he was. This is hinted at repeatedly (i.e., constant paranoia, burning the Tower of the Hand, Qyburn, etc.). That will be the whole tragedy of the thing; that he will not prevent what he prevented before and will only kill her when it is much too late. And then Daenerys gets to be Queen of Ashes for 9 months before kicking the bucket.
  12. I suspect they will not want to mess with the symmetry of the moment either. My own theory on this is that the survivors return to a burned out King's Landing (see Season 2, Episode 10), which is when Jaime strangles Cersei -- after she goes full Aerys and burns the capital down rather than let Daenerys take it. The story always cycles back.
  13. I think this only applies to characters outside the big six (although I have my doubts about whether Benioff and Weiss are willing to end Arya's story where I think it will end). Everyone else, I agree, it's up in the air. That being said, I do think Jaime, Cersei, Theon and Asha will end up in roughly the same place in the adaption as in the books (if we ever get them).
  14. It's okay, everybody wins. They're both dying, one 9 months after the other. Their child gets the throne. No need to fight.
  15. Very lackluster episode. Hardly any plot progression. A series of scenes all too long by a half. Many characters acting completely out of character from their book versions.
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