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    You might enjoy a Game of Thrones related video I did. http://youtu.be/QATuWYwzIZc
  2. I loved this episode. So Robb got married by the Seven, It's the first time they've actually said all the names on the show, so they worked in some exposition there. Get over it. The CGI was great. They couldn't have screwed up Qhorin/Jon, because even Larry Williams understood what was going on and Larry is pretty dense. Dany's trip to the HOTU.. people are so busy whining about what wasn't there they completely miss what was there. Was that ash or snow falling on the iron throne? Or should I say was that (Jon) Snow on the iron throne? Just to make it more obvious for you. Dany also had to turn away from the iron throne. And Drogo being there was really great. That stuff was a lot more important than "You must always take the first right" and other random stuff. The only things that bothered me were they continue to fuck up Littlefinger and his story in every way possible, and they refuse to take any opportunity to write Ros out of the show.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    There is no Riverrun in the show so there is no plot reason for Tywin to go in one direction just to turn around, and there isn't time for him to do it either. There is a leaked casting video for season 3 where
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    Watch that scene again, Tywin never says he is marching against Robb. He says he wants to get a march in before Robb knows what he is doing. He doesn't say what direction that march is going to be in. It's a misdirection for the non-book-readers so he can turn up at KL by surprise.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    Keep in mind that later on Asha/Yara is the one who wants to just settle for part of the Stony Shore rather than go conquesting, and she's the one delivering the message here. Balon did plan to take the entire North, but now that Theon has messed with the plan and everyone thinks Bran and Rickon are dead he may be reevaluating things. We don't know that Balon is thinking, we only know what Yara is telling us and we know that she isn't big on conquest of land away from the sea as everyone else. Because it was obvious and always going to be obvious, so saving it for the finale makes your finale weak. It's even obviously fishy in the book, but then it just goes on so long after that you sort of accept it, and then you get the reveal. That doesn't work on tv. It's importance in the book is much more as the plot driver for Cat and Robb to act as they do, which the show doesn't use. So the whole thing was pretty pointless.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    Ser, I concede to your superior pigheadedness and name thee Lord Paramount of the argument, titles, titles...
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    I never said anything about expecting Mance to be merciful to Qhorin. I said Ygritte makes it clear that they have no interest at all in Qhorin as a prisoner, they just want him dead. But now they are doing the exact opposite from just killing him, they are taking the time to cart him off somewhere else for questioning. Now, they're allowed to change their minds because perhaps she's just thinking in general terms at first, but upon reflection it's pretty odd these guys are all the way out there and maybe they ought to find out whether this is just a ranging or something more. But if you're going to have a contradiction from one episode to another it ought to be meaningful and something you actually address, otherwise it looks like a mistake.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    Because they aren't just questioning him before they kill him, they are transporting him back as a captive for Mance to do whatever he likes with him. It's clearly not in the spirit of Ygritte's answer, which is that they have no interest in taking him prisoner, they just want to kill him.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    No, you're missing the context of how Ygritte says they would just kill Qhorin. Robb wants to take Ygritte prisoner rather than kill her. He offers up the idea that they could question her as justification. Qhorin responds to this by asking her a couple of questions, to which Ygritte says nothing. Qhorin then asks her what they would do with him if they got hold of him. Ygritte quickly responds they'd either kill him quickly or kill him slowly, depending on what sort of mood they were in. So what exactly is the motivation for Ygritte to either lie about this or speak on behalf of other free folk over which she has no authority, when this answer is confirmation of Qhorin's side of the argument that they should just kill her on the spot? This scene only makes sense if Ygritte is just speaking an obvious truth that there is no point in denying. Except that it isn't true.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    Yes, but LF could get something from the Lannisters with this knowledge. The fact that he doesn't try to get anything out of it shows that he is already planning against them and not going to be around to reap any rewards from them. On the other hand he's actually putting Arya in danger by not telling him. If Tywin doesn't know who she is then she can be discarded, as we saw. If he still thinks he can win Cat over then you'd think he'd be angling to get Arya himself. So I think he's perhaps given up on Cat at this point and set his sights on Sansa already.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 208 Discussion Mk. II

    I think we'll see this come up again at a later date. One thing it does show you now is that LF is clearly not on the Lannisters' side, since he didn't say anything to Tywin.
  12. My guess is it's Lancel that tries to kill Tyrion next ep rather than a kingsguard. I think I saw a shot of him fighting in the preview. I still think Bronn is going to die too. This season is driving me nuts: Episode 6: Qhorin: Tell me true, if your people captured me, would they take me prisoner? Ygritte: They'd take your head off your shoulders if they was feeling kind, if not they'd kill you slow. WTF show? So Ygritte was just lying there for absolutely no reason? In the early parts of the season the show dances around Davos' backstory. I thought this was because they wanted to avoid a clunky exposition scene, since Davos mostly talks to Stannis and Stannis has no need to explain to Davos what Davos did in the rebellion. But no, they just wanted to make it a mystery for some reason, waste lots of time dancing around it, and then have a long exposition scene about it in episode 8. They actually give Cat a good reason for letting Jaime go instead of doing it out of irrational but understandable grief. Then she forgets that she has a good reason when Robb wants to know why she did it. One of the most intelligent characters in the show is shown cramming for the battle that he had to know was coming all season like a frat boy who was stoned all semester cramming for finals. Seriously, why the lack of building any tension all season towards what is hopefully going to be the most epic hour of television in quite some time? No matter how good it is it can't repair the damage done by the lack of build up to it as far as the season goes. The only tension there has been all season has been between Arya and Tywin, and they just deflated that balloon. I am sure there is going to be some pay off to that eventually, but GEEZ! I hate the fact that Arya doesn't have to kill a guard to get out of there, but maybe she'll have a kill in ep 10 before meeting up with Jaqen.
  13. This happens earlier, the night she gets the note. There's indeed a commotion that Sansa take advantage of the first time, but I believe it was just a mob of angry people. She then starts going to the godswood regularly. I believe it's at the time of the Blackwater that Dontos gives her the hair net.
  14. It does happen fairly early in ACOK, but this subplot doesn't mature until well into book 3. But people are going to completely forget about Dontos if he never appears on screen. He was supposed to be there in the throne room scene where Sansa is beaten too.
  15. Let's get this one out of the way: Tywin orders The Mountain to start burning and pillaging to find the BwB. Except he already ordered him to burn the riverlands in the last ep of season 1. What has he been doing, and what does Tywin think has been going on for the last 6 episodes? Arya/Tywin is starting to get stale for me. It was really interesting, but they are beating it to death. Dagmer isn't Ramsay, he's Syrio Forel. It is known. I went through this on WiC, but in regards to Jaime killing Alton, instead of perhaps just injuring him or including him in an escape plan. I think Jaime would see him as just slowing him down in any escape, so he can't take him with him. He doesn't want to leave him behind either because he's still a Lannister and has some value as a prisoner to the Starks. His intention is to either escape or die trying, so as far as he's concerned he's never coming back to that cell. So in Jaime fashion he decides he just needs to kill Alton, and I don't think he spends more than 30 seconds figuring out this idea before he's committed to it. Then in a slightly more honorable fashion than with Aerys, he spends some time talking to him first so he's got some comfort. Then he's honest about what he's going to do to him. Then he kills him quickly before he really even has a chance to process it. So he's following a sort of Jaime morality about it. I don't think it's out of character for him. I WAS okay with the idea of Cat releasing Jaime early, before she gets word of Bran and Rickon, if the show needed Jaime released earlier than that would allow. But if Cat is going to release him in the same episode that she finds out about Bran and Rickon, then what is the point of having her not find out first? Rose Leslie is fantastic enough as Ygritte that I am taking a wait and see approach on how Jon's story will work it out. I don't see how Qhorin can be captured when they made a point of specifically having Ygritte tell us they wouldn't take Qhorin prisoner. So I don't see how this can work out well, but we shall see. Three episodes in the row without Ros! If I didn't know GRRM was writing Blackwater I would be expecting they would make up for this oversight by having the entire battle narrated to us by Ros as she looks out a window getting fucked from behind.
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