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  1. Euron is officially the worst brother ever: killing three brothers and sexually abusing two. 

    I agree with the theory that the dwarves fighting and making love refer to the claimants for the IT fighting and making alliances such as the case with Arianne and Aegon which does involve actual copulation. 

    The warlock shouting "Pree" pretty much confirms that Pyat Pree's party was the group Euron captured. I also agree with Lord Varys that Euron got the armor from the warlocks as his response to the Reader's inquiries suggests he is full of shit. 

    Poor Falia, her CInderella story apparently doesn't have a happy ending. It just demonstrates that Euron isn't loyal to anyone. 

    As to Ran's assertion about Euron being a dreamer or greenseer, I think the throne of skulls might suggest that given we see plenty of skulls on the walls in the CotF cave, and Melisandre sees skulls about Jon when we know BranRaven is going to help him. The woman with him possibly being the Others' leader brings to mind the Queen of the Norns from MS&T who rules from a mountain in a cold land far North. 

    As for the Shields, he made sure he gave them to rivals and supporters of rivals, so his rivals are weakened if they lose them. 

  2. Alester and Davos in jail in ASOS remind me of Joseph and the other servants in jail in Genesis 40...and similarly Joseph becomes in effect the king's hand.

    That is a nice one. The Pharaoh puts his signet on Joseph's finger and gives him a new name while Stannis gave Davos a new title, Lord of the Rainwood. One of the prisoners Joseph was with was executed just as Alester Florent was.

  3. Daemon's battle with Aemond ending with Daemon plunging his sword into Aemond's eye so hard it came out the back of his throat over the God's Eye could be reference to the Last Battle of Mag Tuired in Irish mythology, where Lugh drove Balor's eye out of the back of his head, with the eye creating a lake known as "Lake of the Eye."

  4. I disagree.

    If Dany had been killed by the locusts, Barristan would not have stayed in Meereen, also the Freedmen remain together because they think Dany is alive. Without that belief, they disband and the Shavepate's power base crumbles. The Shavepate needs Dany being alive as a rallying point; poisoning her would have destroyed that.

    Blaming it on the Yunkai'i when there are multiple factions inside of Meereen that want her dead (and everyone knows it) would have been empty and impotent, and how would the Yunkai'l have gotten access to the kitchens to poison the locusts in the first place? It was obviously an inside job.

    ETA: If the Shavepate did poison the locusts then I think his target wasn't Dany but Hizdar.

    Dany left Meereen, and Barristan is still there, and he would be inclined to see her killers brought to justice. The freedmen would still be naturally opposed to the people who enslaved them, without Dany, and they would be likely to avenge her if they thought she was betrayed and murdered. He needed her alive as his rallying point? Alive, she was the one in control and her husband was removing him from power.

    Multiple factions in Meereen who want her dead? I think there was only one faction: the Meereenese nobility, and outside it was the Yunkai'i and their allies. The locusts were not from the kitchens of the Great Pyramid but a confectioner, and the freedmen aren't described as completely rational beings, and anger and rage over Dany's death would likely inhibit their ability to reason and look at all the evidence which isn't entirely available to them. The Yunkai'i would be the first suspects in Dany's death.

    It was meant for Dany and Hizdahr, Dany knows that they had no reason to kill Hizdahr as he was the one who constructed the peace deal with the Yunkai'i, and had many friends amongst them and their allies.

    It's gone over here.

    He would not have had the Dragons any more than Quentyn did.

    But he still would have had Meereen and an army. The dragons were in the Great Pyramid, and he isn't the most cunning given his clumsy assassination attempt.

  5. I don't think the Shavepate poisoned her. He needed Dany alive (or thought to be still alive) to make the moves he did. Killing her would not have served his cause. I also wouldn't be surprised if he were genuinely loyal to her.

    It would have served his cause since Dany had married Hizdahr, and Hizdahr was replacing people in Dany's court. He was losing the ground he had just gained in Meereen. If Dany and Hizdahr had died from poison, then he could have blamed it on the Yunkai'i and rally Dany's forces to attack the slavers. He would have Dany's army and her two dragons, making him the undisputed ruler of Meereen.

  6. Barristan will live because of the foreshadowing in Clash when Renly and Tywin were both trying to figure where Barristan was.

    Then we found out in ASoS. Both Renly and Tywin are dead, and I don't think that foreshadows Barristan coming back to Westeros.

    Unfortunately I don't think Jorah is long for this world. His primary purpose was as the Exposition Guy to explain the Dothraki and Essos in general to Dany (and to the reader). Then along comes Barristan who is a fountain of knowledge about the Targ family and is now in the company of Dany. Narratively Dany still needs Barristan but doesn't need Jorah anymore. In ADWD Jorah was little more than a plot device to get Tyrion from Volantis to Meereen. Unless GRRM plans on Jorah meeting up with Sam somehow (and I wouldn't count on that), I think Jorah is just about done and I don't see him surviving TWOW.

    Also, Iain Glen said he was contracted for "five or six years" so assuming season 5 is spent dragging Tyrion around, I think he gets killed sometime in season 6.

    I hope I'm wrong, if only to see Iain Glen sign another contract and stick around longer.

    Being from Bear Island, and having fought in the Greyjoy Rebellion, he likely has a natural antipathy to Ironmen. I don't think he would want Victarion to have any chance of meeting with Dany, especially if he founds out what happened to Victarion's last wife.

  7. Everyone keeps mentioning the ships from cola tips to fight dany.....buuut didn't the voila teen ships carry the golden company overseas back to westeros?

    Not the entire fleet but a few warships with all the other ships being merchant vessels. The Volantenes want to save their fleet for Dany.

  8. I can't wait for Victarion to kill Tyrion.

    Then what would be the point of Tyrion going to Meereen just for him to be killed by Victarion before he even mets Dany?

    I think it is more likely Tyrion ends up having Victarion getting killed by Dany.

  9. Is it just me or is Jon Snow's scheme to switch Gilly and Val's babies a little misbegotten? If Stannis/Melisandre clues into this Jon's going to incur their wrath, and if they don't then Gilly's baby might burn. Or is that just a sacrifice "Lord Snow" is willing to make? Actually - how is it Melisandre hasn't found out about this - isn't this the sort of information the Lord of Light would be apt to throw her way?

    According to Val, Mel did know, but let it happen as it suited her. Jon all but stated that if Mel and Stannis intended to burn Gilly's baby he would reveal the child's identity as Stannis wouldn't let Mel sacrifice an innocent child as he wants to win the free folk.

    In the same vein - Are Melisandre's "visions" purely visual or is there an audio portion as well?

    she heard the whispered name Jon Snow.

  10. No according to (i think. Not 100% sure) yegritte or Tormund that mance never found the true horn

    The poster said the "horn Mance says will bring down the Wall", and that is Mance said of the giant's horn. I don't think a dragonhorn is the Horn of Winter. I think it is more akin to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, where the Holy Grail is actually a plain wooden cup. The Horn of WInter is the cracked horn Jon gave Sam.

  11. Shavepate can't pull that off because Barristan left 3k Unsullied inside the city.

    I have to agree with this; Shavepate wouldn't want to close the gates on Barristan because if Barristan loses then the battle and Meereen is lost. The Yunkai'i will have his head.

  12. A question of curiosity and I don't know if it even been bought up yet

    So Dany burns drogo while he was still alive or still in a vegetable state... Was that a sacrifice that she unknowingly pays to hatch the dragon eggs??

    I'm just throwing it out there

    No she smothered him with a pillow in her previous POV before giving him to the pyre.

  13. "If you would wed, wed" the Red Viper had told his own daughters. "If not, take your pleasure where you find it. There's little enough of it in this world. Choose well, though. If you saddle yourself with a fool or a brute, don't look to me to rid you of him. I gave you the tools to do that for yourself."

    When Arianne marries Aegon, he will prove to be a bit of a fool, as he suffers from some of the shortcomings of youth, as Tyrion notes he risks all for the quick kill, and Aegon is still lacking in maturity.

    Could this quote provide any hints?

  14. Though likely a coincidence I thought there is a connection between Thorin Oakenshield from The Hobbit and Tormund Giantsbane who is supposed to take the fortress of Oakenshield as his seat. Slight similarities in appearance and the names are similar. Evidence is weak but still.

    Actually I think Tyrion is the Thorin Oakenshield reference:

    • Tyrion, like Thorin, is focused on retaking his rightful mountain fortress that has a vast hoard of gold, Thorin reclaims it from a red dragon while Tyrion is going to use dragons to reclaim it, or uses a red dragon (Dany) to do so, either way works
    • Tyrion, after escaping his imprisonment across the Narrow Sea, is carried in a wine barrel to avoid notice like Thorin escaping by a wine barrel to avoid notice with the rest of his company
    • Both dwarves seem to fight with axes at the beginning of their stories

  15. Is there a possibility that when the targeryans invaded Westeros with their dragons, it woke up the WW? I'm basing this assumption on the plausible theory that the WW is the counter balance to the presence of dragons in Westeros, if so than its taken them 3 centuries to get from "The land of always winter" to the wall.

    At the rate they''re advancing south I think it is unlikely that it took them three centuries to get to where they were since they would have to be extremely slow. I don't think they're to act as a counterbalance to the Others.

  16. Roose Bolton supposedly came upon Ramsay's mother while he was hunting and found her washing clothes in a stream.

    Robert I "the Maginificent", Duke of Normandy and father of William the Conqueror, is said to have met Herleva of Farlaise, William's common-born mother, while hunting in one legend, when she was washing clothes in a stream in another.

  17. Sorry, I didn't see a thread for small questions regarding TWoW but I saw this mentioned a couple of times and feel stupid for not knowing what it is. What is the

    Red Wedding

    2.0 and who is supposed to be involved? Thanks!

    Riverrun where Tom O'Sevens is.

    His [Emmon Frey] hand came away red and slimy from he sourleaf. "To be sure. Riverrun is mine, and no man shall ever take it from me."

    Compare that to the prophecy about the demise of the Witch-King Angmar: Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man will he fall.

    It won't be a man that takes Riverrun, but Lady Stoneheart.

    Jaime's description of a dead Tywin: Bloody hell, he's grinning like a bridegroom at his bedding.

    Daven Lannister is that kind of bridegroom.

    The massacre will take place during the bedding, and Tom plays "The Wolf in the Night" which commemorated Robb's victory at the Battle of Oxcross.

  18. In Brans 1st POV chapter in ADWD, when he is in Summer's skin, after dominated One Eye and the other 2 wolves (Varamyr's wolves), Summer notices the meat were men of the NW.

    He went from man to man, sniffing, before settling on the biggest, a faceless

    thing who clutched black iron in one hand. His other hand was missing, severed at the wrist, the stump

    bound up in leather. Blood flowed thick and sluggish from the slash across his throat

    Thats the quote from the chapter. Is that NW member someone we've come across previously? I can't quite seem to recall.

    They were the mutineers from Craster's Keep, among them Ollo Lophand.

  19. In DwD, after the wildings are forced to burn weirwoods, so they start carving faces into other trees, and at one point Jon notices a giant Oak tree with a face carved into it, and notes that:

    Sounds a bit like a certain type of sentient tree from the works of Tolkien..

    to that I'll add:

    She thought back to a tale she had heard as a child, about the children of the forest and their battles with the First Men, when the greenseers turned the trees to warriors.

    The Northmen disguised as trees is also a reference to Macbeth, where Tolkien got the idea for the Ents, feeling cheated that he didn't see the trees move in Macbeth like he thought.

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