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Oh, yeah. Catelyn Stark is a selfish pig, man, always putting her personal concerns first and creating problems everywhere. Robb should have beheaded her for treason, not Rickard Karstark. Lysa's a crazy bitch, too. Murdered the Hand of the King and set in motion a disastrous chain of events. My 2 favorite parts of the books are when Catelyn's throat gets slit at the red wedding & when Lysa flies.