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  1. Lyanna Stark

    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Jaime is about to get hanged by Stoneheart and Sandor is recuperating and becoming religious*** on the Quiet Isle so none of them are anywhere near Kings Landing, and none of them are in any shape or form ready for a duel. Lancel or one of the Kettleblacks (I think it's Osney) are the accusers so it would make sense for one of them to battle Robert Strong. Or another one of the Faith Militant. *** I'm not sure such a staunch nihilist/atheist as Sandor would ever become super religious, but maybe he can find a bit more, I don't know, inner zen?
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    I can't see any other way for them to live without a Deus Ex Machina. We also have more than one faction in the BWB, with Thoros representing the other faction, so if there are people from both factions there, it may be possible to overrule Stoneheart. We have seen that the used Trial by Combat in the past from when Arya brought forth accusations against the Hound. With Roose Bolton's "Jaime Lannister sends his regards" do you really think UnCat will agree to him going off on a little quest to find Sansa? Why on earth would she trust him? Without a divine intervention, I don't see how Jaime can get out from there apart from by Trial by Combat (and that assumes that someone will challenge Stoneheart's authority).
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    I just wonder when she will tell him. It's obvious Jaime goes with her since he thinks she is unable to tell a lie, and I think Brienne will tell him, but when? She has to save it to the very end, or maybe she has some Cunning Plan? I am leaning towards Brienne's plan being "single combat" as a trial method, but will UnCat grant her that? The rest of the BWB might, and as we know, if Brienne gets to fight someone, that person will most likely underestimate her because she is a woman. Personally I am leaning towards Lem in the Hound's helmet vs Brienne fighting for Jaime. It would also reinforce the Beauty and the Beast theme those two have going on.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Being a woman in a man's profession is not a feminist statement per se though, and being freakishly strong, or "able bodied" is not really that either. Sure, Brienne illustrates some of the problems with being a woman in a man's world, but so do Asha, Arya, Dany, Cat and Sansa. And Cersei, too. All of the major female characters illustrate, in their own way, how and when it's difficult to be a woman in a world where men generally rule. Cat wasn't listened to by the northmen since she was a woman, but going for peace had been the better choice for Robb at that time. Cersei is bitter that she cannot carry a sword and fight like a man. Sansa has realised that being a maid means being a piece of meat to be married off for her claim. Asha had an uphill battle to try and claim the Seastone Chair despite being competent and able and instead ended up being married off by proxy. Etc etc. There is a lot of commentary in all the female POVs on different facets of misogyny, sexism, how it is living as a woman in a man's world and what they can do to get around it, and what they can't do.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    I loved the war exposition as well, and I think many of Brienne's chapters set the scene for the next book, with Varys' spies looking for Sansa, Sandor on the QI, The Brotherhood Without Banners, Tarly in Maidenpool (and I have some thoughts about Tarly as well!) and Jaime's faith all tied together. Plus we got Brienne finishing off some Bloody Mummers, Rorge and Biter. It also seems odd to build up Hyle Hunt and Pod only to go "and then they got hanged by the BWB. The end." Not sure why Brienne in particular would appeal to feminists? :dunno:
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 204 Discussion

    Then you love something that is not in the books, or even hinted at in the books. That's not wrong, but it's definitely different, just sayin'. That whole scene was different, too, so obviously they are changing the Sansa - Hound interaction to something different they think will work better on screen. Or something. It's one thing to say "OMG the Mountain is too short!!" another thing to question why certain dialogue choices were lifted for no apparent reason, or why the interaction between certain characters were changed, while the characters were still there and the scene was set, so to speak.
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    [Book Spoilers] EP 204 Discussion

    I thought they aced the Tickler! He was made of win. Well, not of win, but of all sorts of creepy stuff! I didn't mind how Arya added Polliver to the list, he was already in the last episode and the whole thing had to be shortened down to fit, and I wouldn't want him to be missed out.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    True, but that also means her information will have to be somehow transmitted.Sure, the Elder Brother knows it, but he's not likely going to tell anyone anytime soon, I think. On the other hand, Brienne is still on her quest to find Sansa, so in that sense she is not yet done. Her oath to Cat still stands, as does her oath to Jaime, so in a sense even if Jaime dies, I could see Brienne continuing to honour that oath. Also, we have Jaime's Weirdwood dream where Brienne and Jaime are facing the seven ghosts of his past, and Jaime's sword goes out, but Brienne's continues to burn. It seems to indicate that Jaime's future and development is tied to Brienne.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Well, I agree that this seems to be true. It also makes me wonder if this means Lem will have another appearance, or do something important since the Hound persona has turned a bit into the Dread Pirate Roberts of Westeros. Some people seem to think Brienne will pick it up, but if it symbolises Sandor Clegane's Hound persona and that rage, then I can't see the Maid of Tarth running around with it. I agree with you that it seems premature for Jaime to die, but then it seems odd to off Brienne as well since she's a POV character and at least semi-important, and she hasn't really had any huge role to play yet, apart from assisting Jaime in Harrenhal, but that was before her own POVs. I mean sure, theoretically her entire plot line has basically been to have a bit of exposition of one of Vary's spies reaching Sansa, that Dontos' life was sad, that Randyll Tarly still suffers from massive dickitude and that Sandor Clegane is alive. Sure those are all good and important plot points, but are they enough to off her POV? I am not sure. Quentyn has a more defined goal and mind, so it made sense that he got offed. In this instance, logically, it seems Jaime is done for, since he got released by Cat before. But on the other hand, his storyline seems far from done, since it seems there is a setup for a showdown between Tyrion and Jaime, plus the whole "Cersei and Jaime need to leave the world together" thing.
  10. Lyanna Stark

    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Well, Brienne says they have a day's ride, so any romance needs to be very quick ;)
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Very true. I can personally live with no more UnPeople ever, but as Melisandre has seen Jon Snow in her fires, and his face flickering into that of Ghost, it seems fairly well foreshadowed that he is going to get ressed by Mel and that he is either AA or TPTWP. When it comes to Jaime and Brienne though, it's less clear cut. I believe GRRM has said he has other scenes to write as hard as the Red Wedding, so that means the characters are not necessarily safe, even with UnDeath around.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Good point. And aren't quite a few of the BWB Rh'ollorites as well? If it's a question of Stoneheart vs Thoros, he might hold some sway. That might be a way to grant Jamienne a Trial by Combat, for one, since Thoros was there when Beric fought the Hound. It seems the BWB is getting split in the middle: one part as the Robin Hood like outlaws, and the other, more murderous faction under Lady Stoneheart. One thing tho: at the Red Wedding, Roose Bolton says, when he stabs Robb Stark: "Jaime Lannister sends his regards", so I think UnCat will stop at nothing to get her hands on Jaime again. She probably thinks Jaime was in on it, even though at the time he was having his hand lopped off and was busy fighting bears. And yes, if someone gets the Kiss of Life from Thoros, it sounds like Brienne is more likely. But ugh, UnBrienne? It's neater if it's Jaime, since Brienne already said at Harrenhall when he came walking through the mist in the bath that he looked "Half a corpse and half a God".
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Indeed. That is why I feel it needs to almost be a Deus Ex Machina to get both Jaime and Brienne out of this situation, like something or someone appearing for it to stop (Bran or the Blackfish have been ideas circulating, I believe). It would make sense if it was somehow Bran and Bloodraven intervening. There is also this oddity I caught somewhere:
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Well, it can mean something. We know that the Freys know fairly well who of theirs the BWB has hanged. It seems the method(s) of execution of the BWB is well known to the lords in the area. I also strongly believe that the BWB would be pretty smug if they managed to hang the Kingslayer. Someone would find him for sure, or the news would spread and *someone* would know. After all, he's not just some nobody missing, he is the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, the legendary Kingslayer etc etc. Had he been hanged together with the heir to Tarth, some rumour would have popped up. This is actually the main reason I believe Jaime AND Brienne are both alive, since otherwise, they are highborn enough to cause a ruckus (and rumours) if they are found hanged. The Riverlands are also not the North, which is vast, and with winter on its way for real, I doubt northerners are travelling around a lot, especially not up to the Wall. The Northerners apart from Bolton do not seem especially interested in being on speaking terms with the Lannisters either, so would not bother reporting anything from the north particularly. If they are in the same cave as the Hound was brought to, it has a Weirwood there, no? It would mean Bran and Bloodraven have a way in. Another way they could possibly be in the clear is if Stoneheart somehow grants Jaime a Trial by Combat, possibly with Brienne as his champion. But, Stoneheart is not Beric, so I don't know if this way will be available to them.
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    The future of Jaime and Brienne?

    Can't there be a trial by combat, but with Brienne as Jaime's champion? The BWB has Lem Lemoncloak, Gendry and a couple of other knighted fighters, so one of them could take up the fight for the BWB side. I also wonder if UnCat would let Brienne fight for their side, since she'd probably suspect cheating. It could happen though, but Brienne - Gendry seems a nicer setup since Gendry looks like Renly and that would be extremely hard for Brienne. Whichever way it goes, I wonder if both Brienne and Jaime can make it out alive. It seems very unlikely at this point.
  16. Right, so the second*** thing I have complained about for the first 13 episodes is somehow not worthwhile. I'll keep that in mind. Which is by the way not at all like book!Shae, which has been debated to death on the forums. And I am ok with the change to Shae, I can live with that. Sansa being bitchy tho, it changes her character. *** this and Ros.
  17. The truth would have saved Mycah how? The Hound had already been sent off after Mycah, nothing Sansa would have said could have stopped it. You are also conflating what happened at the river with what happened after. Nothing Sansa could have done at the river could have stopped Joffrey from whipping out his sword, the interrogation came later.
  18. No, she isn't. Link me one quote from ACOK or ASOS where Sansa is bitchy. One. I beg you. And she doesn't yell at Shae in the books. Shae and Sansa are not in the same room until ASOS and Shae is originally Lolly's Stokeworth's maid. May I ask, have you actually read the books? In that case you would know that Shae was Lolly's maid, not Sansa's and that Sansa at no point shouts at her. Ever. As for your faulty assumption that "she makes her little sister's friend take the fall", Cersei had sent the Hound out to kill Mycah for laying a hand of the prince of the blood (Joffrey). What should Sansa have done to prevent it? Fought him? Something else? The notion that Sansa could have done something about that is ridiculous. And this, by the way, happened in AGOT. Not in ACOK.
  19. And which book is that? ACOK? No, it's in AGOT. In ACOK Sansa is never bitchy, not once. This season is ACOK; not AGOT. The whole point of Sansa's development in late AGOT and later on is to dissuade her of the notions of shallow prettiness and valiant knights which she held in AGOT. This should be impossible to miss.
  20. Well, I just wonder if there will be time for a lot of Sansa/Joffrey or Sansa/Sandor since instead we get a good scene illustrating how sad and terrible Sansa feels (the one with Cersei, Tommen and Myrcella) and then it's like "oh btw, in case you were really thick and missed that Sansa was sad and wretched, her she is even more sad and wretched but now with extra bitchiness!" Does. Not. Make. Sense. Oh and count me in as one of the people really waiting for the Tickler.
  21. Sansa is not bitchy in the books, how on earth are you reaching that conclusion? Have you READ the books at all? And what "only potential ally"? Shae is supposed to be Sansa's ally how? And why? Seriously, no. It's not anywhere in the books, nowhere. We could have got some real Sansa exposition, some interaction with the Hound, her torment with Joffrey, anything. Instead we get....Shae. They have what? Two scenes together in ASOS? Ridiculous, just utterly, utterly bad. Sansa's ASOS arc is going to come straight out of the blue and her interaction with Dontos and the Hound? Ignored. Completely and utterly ignored.
  22. Fabulous episode apart from one bit: Sansa Shae. Rant warning: What on EARTH was this supposed to be? Showing that Sansa is bitchy or what? She isn't bitchy in the books so it's just a complete deviation from her character. It made no sense plotwise and was just totally bewildering. We get time showing Sansa with Shae, but no time showing Sansa with, well anything plot related? Tommen and Myrcella get more interesting comments than Sansa. Come on! It's too bad as well since apart from that I thought the episode was the best this season. So, that bit? Utter, total bollocks. It's not needed to "foreshadow" the wedding either since Shae has no part in that, and Tyrion already does by talking about marriages being made for alliances.
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