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CrypticWeirwood

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  1. I fully expect the end of the books to be as like the end of the show as the two versions of everything that transpired in Qarth resembled each other -- from the spice king to the warlocks, from gay Xaro to Dany drinking shade of the evening, from dragonnapping to her visions in the House of the Undying. In other words, any similarities will be almost unrecognizable.
  2. People forget that the secret of the Manderlies lies hidden in plain sight right there in their very name: the Mander lies!
  3. Wait, when did they spread black lies about Stannis to defame his good reputation? That doesn't make any sense. Character Assassination refers to the slandering or vicious personal verbal attack on a person with the intention of destroying or damaging that person's reputation or confidence. In other words it is malicious verbal assaults designed to damage or tarnish the reputation of a person. ... It is a form of defamation.
  4. No. Bran's destiny is linked to the name of his wolf, Summer. “Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York” For “sun of York” read of course “son of Stark”.
  5. She wouldn't. That's the point. Hers is a powerful enough house that her children would take her name because she could only marry down.
  6. Everybody writes that story, again and again and again. Martin wouldn't have wasted his time writing yet another storybook happy ending when there are already zillions of those out there. That doesn't break the wheel: it just wears it as a wedding band for a time so that Florian and Jonquil can live happily ever after.
  7. The reason it was so important for Jon to have been the so-called rightful king yet not come to rule is because it shatters the hackneyed hidden-prince trope, just like killing off Eddard Stark, his protagonist of Game of Thrones shattered that hackneyed trope as well. It also proved Dany's whole life-mission goal to "take back" the Iron Throne because she was "the rightful heir" was always full of hot air. Then when she tried to keep living what she now knew to be a lie, she outed herself as always having been on a mission of wrathful revenge, never of righteousness, because she had no such right but didn't care. These were critical elements of the art form that Martin created. Lose that and you lose his messaging.
  8. What do you mean it meant nothing!!?? It meant everything! The entire endgame requires it be true. Otherwise the entire story meant nothing. It was critical that Jon not Dany was the real heir. That's why she freaked out. That's why he had to be the one to kill her. SO IT WOULD HAVE MEANING! That's why he had to keep it secret and leave the kingdom. That's why his point about house words not being stamped on you at birth is so important. Otherwise Rhaegar's obsession with prophesy didn't wreck the kingdom and doom his family. And his Kingsguard friends. Or create Robert and Cersei. Everything is about this. Everything. Honestly, this is what it was all always about.
  9. I think that's kins-laying then not kin-slaying. More than kin, less than kind. :->)
  10. Bran doesn't follow "a different religion". He doesn't follow a religion at all. Just because he knows that men call all the children whose spirits live on in the trees "the old gods" doesn't make them gods and it doesn't make understanding them a religion. Bran is a greenseer himself, so he knows that this isn't a religion. He isn't a god and he knows it, and he wouldn't put up with people worshipping him. That's Dany, not Bran. He's already part of that network. It's just the underlying mechanics of how this universe works. No religion needed. But the Seven? Haha, that's a belly laugh. Just stuff to keep the masses in check. There's no there there. With the weirwoods, though, it's all real. Not religion.
  11. Just wanted to say how stunningly excellent that all was! Thank you.
  12. Aha! That would make Tywin Tyrion's first cousin once removed, since Tywin was Joanna's first cousin. Oops. Now that you mention it, we know that Jon and Tyrion and Dany killed their own mothers, all three of them.
  13. I like to think that Tyrion wasn't actually a kinslayer because he and his brother Jaime only killed each other's father, not their own, but would never learn this themselves. Martin will have been familiar with Strangers on a Train.
  14. Who then would Dany's heir be? Tyrion isn't the only one who would want to know that. You have to have an heir. Who would be the Prince of Dragonstone?
  15. The show made it seem like Bloodraven just migrated to Bran when the Others took his mortal body. This is super-reminiscent of like how in Gene Wolfe’s Citadel of the Autarch, our protagonist took up all the old autarchs’ collective memories at the previous autarch’s death when Severian [spoiler suppressed]. (Martin really likes Wolfe, BTW.) That's why the autarch was sometimes addressed as Legion, for in him are multitudes, all the living collective memory of those who had held the station before him, with the previous autarch's memories foremost in his mind after he own memories but hardly alone. So too with Bran. That's why Bran is the only one there who has the actual experience to be king. For one thing, Bloodraven has a lot of direct experience ruling Westeros, but for another Bran has access to earlier memories and earlier history beyond just Bloodraven's own memories. Think about Rhaegar and Lyanna and the Tower of Joy. That's why Bran told Tyrion about where he got the wheelchair design from. That wasn't a random throwaway line, not this late in the game. It was to prime Tyron so that when he thought about who should rule, he would think of Bran and why Bran had that experience from days long past.
  16. I always figured that they knew about butterfly fever (Cogman certainly would), and so deliberately set this up as a sort of poison Easter egg for Grey Worm to go to a grisly grave soon after the show's ending. If that's not the case, then please don't tell me because I like it better this way: as Giordano Bruno's said, Se non è vero, è molto ben trovato.
  17. “The kool aid is strong in this one.” Please don't make us all laugh. George had them do it in the series, and they got the series because they got it right. It's a big deal. It real. It's what he said to do. It will be in the books. You have to read up as down and black as white and right as wrong to think anything other than this. It's willful disbelief of reality. This was a super-critical plot point. The entire endgame hangs on it. That's how you know it's what Martin set up: because that's how it played out on screen. Without it, everything would have fallen apart into meaninglessness. Martin said that the main characters all end up in the same place, just not a few secondary ones. Call them what you will but Jon and Dany are main characters. The show isn't going to to just randomly change the main characters' endgame and break all the layers of meaning that Martin has spent thousands of pages across decades carefully building up like that. If they would it would not have been Martin's story. So they didn't. It's too important; otherwise nothing else makes sense and the showMartin said is 97% accurate is random garbage. He wouldn't say what he said if it were. So it's not. That's how we know that up is up and black is black and down is down and white is white. And that's how we know R+L=J. The show's ending guarantees it.
  18. When he told us that the showrunners answered his question about who Jon's mother was correctly. That completely removed all possible doubt, confirming it once and for all. Think of the billions and billions of hours saved.
  19. One thing I expect to see in the books based on what happened in the show is that despite having been initially pitched as a generational saga, virtually no one is going to die of old age. Only a single character out of the show's nearly fifty main cast died of old age, so I'm not expecting many more to do so in the books. Seems odd for a generational saga.
  20. Jon is Azor Ahai, who plunged his blade first into water, then into the heart of a lion, then into the heart of his beloved. He is the shield that guards the realms of men, and he himself is Lightbringer the sword in the darkness. He is from the line of Aerys and Rhaella, the prince who was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire. Bran is the mystical Last Hero of Old Nan's fairytales, who lost his companions one by one and even his dog but finally found the Children, who helped him.
  21. Sorry, it's too late. Isaac already spilled the beans, so that's that. Just because D&D made no press release doesn't mean they didn't convey the truth to the actor playing the role. To pretend this didn't happen requires that somebody lied, which is an ostrich-sticks-head-in-sand denial of reality. The old forever-stuck-in-a-cave-as-a-tree chestnut made absolutely no narrative sense whatsoever for the story's leading POV character. You always knew his destiny would be tied up on an oversight role. When you add to that all the lessons Martin has been teaching about how awful hotheaded rulers are, it makes even more sense that Bran will get that job since he's the best equipped for it. I'm glad all the sceptical flat-earth nonsense about Bran's destiny has finally been proven wrong once and for all.
  22. Yup, that's the one. Finally the silly "He's a tree! Never leaving his cave!" sceptics will finally give it a rest, just like the R+L=J deniers ultimately were proven wrong when Martin confirmed that D&D got it right. Long live King Bran the Broken. Long may he reign, calmly and coolly curing the realm of its burning wounds.
  23. There's an interview with Isaac that just came out where he talks about learning from the showrunners the two big surprises they brought him for his character straight from Martin: the Hodor revelation was the one, and him becoming king was the other. It's quite a positive interview. I'll see if I can find it again.
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