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  1. chrisdaw

    Dorne Predictions

    Arianne marries/betrothed to Aegon. Possibly Dorne comes to the aid of the Tyrells against the Ironborn. Arya may kill and take the identity of Nymeria so that she can attend and influence Aegon's small council. They get sucked into the Dance on Aegon's side against Dany. Aegon dies and Arianne becomes Dany's hostage in KL, continuing the revenge theme whilst hostage Arianne plots against Dany for killing her lover and husband. Fittingly she'll succeed in stealing Dany's lover (and maybe husband) from her, Euron. Trystane will probably live to rule Dorne in the end.
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    So what was Criston Cole's deal?

    The hints to Jaime in Cole's story are constant, the Kingmaker moniker to Jaime's declaration of having made and unmade kings, his murdering Beesbury a nod to Jaime's two monstrosities - slitting Aerys's throat and throwing Bran out the two window, his unceremonious death is a nod to Jaime's hatred of archers. Cole is an extension to this Jaime theme of judgement. The way GRRM worked it was in the hope that we judge Jaime, as Ned did, then we get his POV and he becomes more understandable and less the villain. The point GRRM is trying to make is that we must be careful to judge with limited information. "By what rights does the wolf judge the lion? - I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act" All that gear. And it goes to legacy, how Jaime will be remembered, what is left to write in that white book. Why Cole did the things he did we can't know unless we get it from his POV. GRRM probably doesn't even have sorted why Cole did this here or that there, there's not much need, it isn't the point. The point is we can't know so we should be careful to judge. In the end Jaime is going to end up being like Cole, an enigma to anyone who wasn't there and didn't properly know him, and history and the realm (particularly the new ice eyed Jon) are probably going to judge him far more harshly than he deserves, at least that's the angle GRRM is going to come from, but Jaime's going to know this, and is still going to do what he has to do anyway.
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    So what was Criston Cole's deal?

    No he's very clearly a Jaime parallel and that should be the point anyone looking to understand the purpose of character should start from.
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    So what was Criston Cole's deal?

    Cole is commentary on Jaime and everything we are given about him should be looked at through that lens. From the outside looking in what would the twists and turns in Jaime's relationship with Cersei look like? What would Jaime's characters appear in general?
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    Think I found a little bird

    Those whores are a little foreshadowing triangle. Merei is Euron and Dancy is Dany. The black pearls the two have bet Dancy's ability to get her lord (Tyrion) to sleep with her over refer to Drogon. Dancy looks like Ygritte and her description references Jon/Lyanna in the manner of Dany's HOTU vision. The way it fits together is that Dany is going to find herself in the same position as Dancy. Euron is going "take" Drogon, and Dany is going to have to sleep with her lord (Jon) in order to get him back. Dancy is named for Dany but looks like Ygritte because Dany is going to glamour as Ygritte to get Jon to sleep with her.
  6. No, Jaime's arc is from selfish to servant. He will be the defining Hand of the king of the series, the ultimate servant of the realm. It is the Hand's lot to do the nasty shit that needs doing, to bear that burden alone so that everyone else can stay clean. Things like sacrificing ones honour to slay a king to save a million people. Or threatening to send a lord his child in a trebuchet to end a siege without bloodshed. The Hand of the king sacrifices their honour so that everything stays working and everyone can keep going about their lives happy and oblivious. And that's Jaime, it is Jaime because it has to be Jaime, because there will be no-one else. Tyrion wants to be loved too much, he is like Robert. And like Robert Tyrion will be king, a failed one.
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    Percentage Poll on various theories

    We'll find out in the first person, as when they light Dany's funeral pyre she will reunite with him and Rhaego. Her sun and stars returned, and her son as a bonus. The three heads of the dragon. The scene the show gave us in place of the HOTU. The reveal is Dany's happy ending.
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    The Fate and Purpose of the Greyjoy Children

    Theon GRRM seems to be discussing/examining boys growing up with surrogate father figures where the character/beliefs of the surrogate clash with the biological. He has several boys like this with variations on the situation for contrast. Theon is a study of character where the biological father lives and is known, which seems to keep the surrogate father from taking complete ownership of the boy, and as a result the boy not recognising the surrogate as a father. Both father figures having died now gives Theon more freedom to simply choose. And he's going to get a second bite at things, as his other Stark brother is going to be KITN and march south on the IT, and Theon will be given the opportunity to support him. Asha Asha I haven't given much thought. Seems to be the vehicle for some actual societal progress, but only with regards to the Ironborn. She alone seems to have enough vision to see that the ways of the Ironborn are not sustainable and that they must either adapt or perish. I don't know why the Ironborn ways are not sustainable now given that they have survived so long, but the text is clearly running that way. Asha is going to lead what is left of the Ironborn out of Euron's catastrophe to standard settlement at Sea Dragon Point. And/or maybe she is pregnant and her's is another story about women turning when they become mothers. Asha particularly from brash and fearless in the face of death to cautious, silent and smart. Maybe in motherhood she is to contrast Brienne, and/or advise and contrast Arya.
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    The House with the Red Door

    Same same same. The red door is the inside of a stone dragon, which when Dany's soul enters will come to life, the stone melting by way of her fiery heart, the fire in her blood, the light of her soul. The soul is what feeds the dragon's flame. The pathway to where it belongs is symbolic of the dragon's innards, its mouth, ribs (arches) and throat (hallway). The actual door is the entrance to its heart (why Mel takes the fiery heart symbol for Stannis), the chamber where specifically the soul belongs, where it lives, where the fire goes, where the light needs to be brought. Dany's soul is what will bring it. Pass beneath the shadow of death to touch the light. And when she does all her fear and doubts will burn away. She will become a dragon, what she was always meant to be. She will be home.
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    How are they gonna get outta this one??

    Tyland Lannister is Jaime foreshadowing and so it is likely Jaime will be severely tortured by the Bwb/Stoneheart. Jaime and Brienne get strung along as prisoners until Arya gets there to destroy Stoneheart. Probably Arya brings the wolf pack and turns the good half of the BWB on the bad. Gendry will do something particularly brave. Maybe Brienne and Jaime escape, maybe with Arya's and/or Gendry's help. Alternative possibility Jaime gets released back as part of a deal to bring the BWB back under the king's (or queen's?) peace. Really though it makes more thematic sense for Jaime to be the one in the position of power with the ability to slaughter the BwB, and have every reason to hold a grudge, but instead choose to accept their surrender and bring them back to the peace without bloodshed. So I favour an escape, but not for a long while, GRRM has basically tucked them away whilst the dragons dance. Theon, Bran is going to somehow in a supernatural manner communicate his wish that Theon not be executed and the northmen with Stannis will take it as the will of the Old Gods, and Theon will be spared. Arya bleh. We don't even know if the FM are going to be angry at all. For all we know they could barely give a toss, and if they do, then Arya just runs away. And yeah she might not even bother going back there. All she needs is news of Sansa and she could be off.
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    The Updated Exodus Theory and its Corollaries

    Arya will be that. From Queen Nymeria to Black Aly to Wenda the White Fawn her foreshadowing is consistent and clear. Nymeria is Arya's hero, the namesake she takes for herself and name of her wolf. The only time Nymeria is ever mentioned in a Sansa chapter is only in her first and only in reference to Arya's wolf. To conclude from this inverse foreshadowing is just whatever. You do you, just don't say you weren't told.
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    The House with the Red Door

    Yes it is symbolic of her home. And it represents the dragon's heart from where its the fire comes. When Dany dies she will second life the dragon, her soul will enter the dragon and take its place within its heart and fuel its fire. That is her home, Dany is and was always supposed to be a dragon. The second life is sweeter, and her's as the dragon will be free of worry, responsibility and doubt, driven purely by instinct.
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    The Updated Exodus Theory and its Corollaries

    Yeah, commanding armies on the battlefield sounds just like Sansa.
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    The Updated Exodus Theory and its Corollaries

    Sure thing. Anytime now Sansa will be picking up a sword and becoming a warrior. It's inversion.
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    The Updated Exodus Theory and its Corollaries

    Any Exodus will be lead by Arya as per her Nymeria association. Stuff like Dany never getting to Westeros is nonsense.
  16. Yes I think it was Shiera and that her intent was to cause human Targ deaths in the hope their sacrifices would hatch dragons, and had Rhaegar burned it would have worked. I think it was working, I think the same soul swap between baby and dragon egg was happening to Rhaegar as happened to Rhaego, but Rhaegar was delivered before the process could be completed and so the baby's soul snapped back into the baby's body. But it brought back with it a lot of dragon blood, and so dragon dreams and memories/visions of having almost turned to fire and become a dragon, and those are what caused Rhaegar's mental condition. I have no opinion on Duncan and Jenny.
  17. Banging this drum again, as it has been a while and it does seem to be catching on. This iteration will be a comprehensive attempt at the theory but one which excludes any predictions, as the predictions have tended to overshadow everything else in the topic. If you're particularly sensitive to potential spoilers then this isn't the topic for you. How Valyrians were able to ride dragons is a secret, the text makes that clear. It is an in-world mystery green-lit by GRRM for speculating and theorising about. The answer is that the Valyrians worked out how to second-life dragons. By second-lifing dragons Valyrians created or turned dragons less hostile to such a degree that they could potentially be ridden by family members. The following is the detailing of this theory, the things it explains and fits with, but not those that would lead into predictions. Second-lifing is a known in-world occurrence introduced to the reader in the prologue to ADWD. It is known among skinchangers that when they die their soul can enter into an animal and they can live on in a second-life as that animal. Through the prologue chapter we are given a first hand account of a person dying and beginning a second-life as a wolf. Valyrians did this with dragons. Skinchangers are able to slip their soul from their body somewhat at will. Valyrians do not appear to have this ability innately, rather when they second-life dragons they achieve the flight of their souls through their deaths and/or blood magic. I will make the arguments for this farther on in the topic. If second lifing a dragon was possible one would assume Valyrians could not keep it a secret. Other people would try doing it, and assumedly succeed. It is possible, but there is a further trick to it, a hurdle that no-one else worked out how to get around but the Valyrians. Dragons are fire made flesh and thus a soul entering a dragon will burn. What will happen when a soul enters a dragon is demonstrated within the Varamyr prologue chapter. Varamyr was skin changing an eagle, and Melisandre magically burned it in flight from the inside, forcing his soul out of it and causing him tremendous pain. This is what will happen to anyone that tries to skin change and/or second-life a dragon. The trick, that the Valyrians alone worked out how to do, is being able to survive this fire, for the soul to exist and persist within the fire, to become one with it. To become a fiery soul. And doing so required(s) the sacrifice of one of their own children. Again I'll make the case for this below. So in a basic summary, Valyrian's sacrificed their own children and their own lives so that they may be reborn as dragons, and those dragons could be ridden by their family members. The process creates a blood bond between human families with dragons that persists through generations. The theory fits in with and explains a great deal many things. - It explains the purpose of the incest within dragon riding families, why the blood of the dragon must remain pure. It is to maintain as much as they can a likeness in the blood to that of the person who second-lifed the dragon. - It explains the Valyrian's own answers to their mastery of dragons, as they were related to the person who second lifed and became the dragon, many would be descendants from the second lifer or their brother or sister. - Though it doesn't explain where they got the idea from (probably dragon dreams), it does explain specific notions Aerion and Aerys had. - It explains why the Valyrian dragon riders views on the gods and why they named dragons after the gods. When you know how to achieve a second life as the most powerful beast on the planet with a lifespan many times that of a human, you have no need for gods. Dragons basically are gods, hence they're named gods. Varamyr says a second-life inside of Ghost, a direwolf, would be a life fit for king, natural progression would have a dragon be a life of a god. Drogo. We have in Daenerys a main series character who over the course of her story has come to ride a dragon, if my theory is correct it should show up in her story. I will show it does. Drogo second-lifed Drogon. Through Mirri Maz Duur's blood magic and the death of Rhaego, Drogo's soul slipped his body, entered the black dragon egg and persists inside the dragon. After MMD's tent of magic horrors Drogo was in a state similar to catatonic. This is the state of a person who has had their soul leave their body. It is the same state as a skin changer when they've slipped their own body. And a description by Jojen. MMD sent Drogo's soul from his body somewhat knowingly and on purpose. That is what her blood magic did. Obviously she didn't intend on Drogo's soul finding a home within a dragon egg. Straightforward hints are provided for the second-lifing. The name, one letter different. The dragon's colour, black, aligns with that symbol of Drogo's ferocity and superiority, his black braid. As Drogo is the fierce alpha male who never knew defeat, Drogon is the alpha dragon, boldest and least accepting of capture and captivity. Given free reign Drogon makes his home on the Dothraki plains, roaming and hunting it far and wide, such as a Khal does. Drogon is present when Dany learns of Robert's death, he responds to the news as one might expect Drogo would have given the assassination attempt on pregnant Dany's life that so enraged him. The legends/beliefs relayed through Dany's AGOT chapters leading to the dragon's birth signals the occurance of Drogo's second life. The Dothraki's beliefs concerning the death of a Khal. A fiery steed to ride proud in the sky. Dany is symbolically the moon, as Drogo calls her, and Drogo the sun as Dany refers to him. From their coupling comes dragons. The dragons drinking from the sun to take their fire is the dragon taking of Drogo's fierce fiery soul. Waking the Dragon Dany's wake the dragon dream is something of a roadmap for the second-lifing of a dragon, and there's good reason for that. The dream is actually her carrying out the process of second-lifing a dragon too. Recall it was a fevered dream and she was on the verge of death. But she didn't die, she survived and so woke back in her body, but she'd gone almost the whole way. The stone hall she races down with arches overhead is akin to the gullet of a dragon, a dragon made of stone, the red door at the end is where the soul goes, to give it fire and life, to wake it from stone. GRRM phrases it as a precarious question - "You don't want to wake the dragon, do you?" This is because the question is really do you want to die and become a dragon? Do you? And to sacrifice your child? The coupling between herself and Drogo, the conception of Rhaego, is what brings about the fire and dragon. Rhaego is devoured by fire. He turns into fire and Dany can feel him burning in her womb. Note the burning heart in his chest. It is echoed in what happened to Varamyr. And Melisandre's (R'hllor's) symbolism that becomes Arms, a flaming heart. It is this sacrifice of Rhaego, the turning of the child to fire within the womb that allows the whole process with a dragon. Without it Drogo's soul would have simply burned up within the dragon. It doesn't particularly need more explanation other than "magic", but it would seem something of a soul swap occurs, the child's soul goes into the dragon/egg, and the dragon goes into the child within the womb. Hence human Rhaego ends up dead with dragon features. And as a mother and child in the womb share blood, the mother, Dany in this case, becomes "infected" by dragon blood, but really the infection is a blessing that allows her to survive a night in a funeral pyre. It is thematically a perfect convenience. The ultimate power, that of a dragon, comes at the cost of the ultimate sacrifice, your own blood and children. And this theme runs strong through the series, from Ned not will to sacrifice Jon himself, Craster, Ned with Jaime's children, Stannis and Edric, Hazzea, etc Note how GRRM manipulates the language to corner Dany into making Rhaego a willing sacrifice rather than an unintended consequence. If a sacrifice has to be made for every second-lifing I suggest not, but certainly to kick things off and begin the blood bond. And the blood bond is with the sacrificed child as much as with the father, I would suggest, as Dany doesn't actually share Drogo's blood. The stones of the faded king's eyes are all stones that have shades of purple. These are Targaryens/Valyrians, Dany's ancestors who have all done what she is on the verge of doing here. They've all second-lifed a dragon, but they're old, their fire has burned out and faded. Dragons live long but not forever. These are ghosts of Dany's ancestors urging her forward to second-life the dragon as they had. And so she does, very almost. See her turning into a dragon, not a third party so that she may ride, but a transformation of her human self into a dragon. She becomes a dragon. And the last one is her taking Rhaegar's place as the last dragon. She's done what Rhaegar was trying to do, as I'll explain. But she wakes up, survives as a human, and so doesn't complete the whole process herself. But her having been 99% of the way to second-lifing a dragon and having dragon tainted blood is the explanation for these lines. The answer to what Dany is, is a dragon. The dragons know. At least she was, and is supposed to be. Rhaegar If Rhaegar knew about the second-lifing portion of the process I can not say with the little information the text gives us at this time. But Rhaegar understanding something of the sacrifice component of the process explains basically every piece of information we are given about him. Maester Aemon is our closest source for Rhaegar. Aemon knows about the prince that was promised and war for the dawn. He's read about it. And Rhaegar seemingly has too. And they seem to believe it. Rhaegar thought at first it was him. Then Rhaegar thought it must be Aegon. And we are talking about dragons here, the dragon must have three heads and eggs that won't hatch. From seemingly having read the same things as Aemon and Rhaegar, Melisandre has arrived at this conclusion. Aemon doesn't deny the possibility of a sacrifice bringing results. He's not down with it, but he's not ruling it out. And it isn't far from being right is it? The point here his that the sacrifice component is very real, and Rhaegar knew it. He thought a sacrifice would need to be made, and at first he thought it was himself. He thought he would have to die to wake dragons and save the world. But then he thought it was Aegon. But later because the dragons must have three heads he thought it must be the sacrifice of three of his children, hence why he had to have Jon. And this explains Rhaegar's nature. Rhaegar was melancholy because he thought he was destined to die a sacrifice. GRRM gives us a parallel character, Jojen. Jojen has the same character traits as Rhaegar, because Jojen too believes he has foreseen his own death. It is why there is a sense of doom over Rhaegar. It explains why the birth of Aegon is a bitter-sweet occasion for Rhaegar. At first Rhaegar thought it was himself, but then he thought it was Aegon. So instead of being overjoyed by the birth of a heir, as a father should be, he is melancholy and the mood is a sweet sadness. This is because he thinks he is going to have to sacrifice the child. It is why he makes music like this. He is singing about his own death and the those he loved because he believed himself first but then they would have to be sacrificed. And that's why Dany takes his place in the last portion of the wake the dragon dream, because she made the sacrifice and woke the dragons that he spent his life dreading having to do, but ultimately failing. Euron Euron knows. Or is on the brink of understanding. It is what his horn does. And it provides an explanation for his actions and everything in his cryptic conversation with Victarion. Euron's horn is (allegedly) a literal dragon's horn, infused with magic by Valyrians, used to bind dragons. It has an inscription that reads; That the horn tells you that it will kill you if you blow it raises the obvious question of why anyone would blow it, and therefor what use is it? The answer is the most simple and logical, it provides the blower a second-life. What the horn will do is set the blower's soul to flight, slip it from their skin, like Bran has done on occasion and Varamyr did in the prologue. The blood for fire line refers to the trade of the blower's own blood, a child of their blood, for which they will receive fire, that is their soul will be made fire so that they can enter a dragon/egg and persist there. Skinchangers call it second-lifing, Valyrians seem to refer to it as binding. What the horn will do is what MMD did incidentally in her messy tent of sacrifice. The Valyrians have streamlined the blood magic second-lifing dragon process into a clean blow of a horn. BUT, you have to provide the other elements, one needs to have on hand a child of their own blood for sacrificing and a dragon/egg for their soul to enter. GRRM provides more clues as to what the horn does. The bird tattoo on Cragorn's chest seemingly trying to rip free and fly while the horn is being sounded is imagery used to signal how the horn is trying to slip (or perhaps successfully slipping, it could have happened as we are not provided information to say otherwise) Cragorn's soul from his body. The horn microwaves Cragorn from the inside, as it is trying to set his soul to fire so that it can persist within an egg/dragon. The below is spoiler tagged where I quote from or reference sample chapter material. Euron wants to slip his skin and fly and become a dragon. That is his goal, ascendancy, godhood, and he suspects or knows that his horn does it. But he didn't know or wasn't sure that he would have to die to do it. And he does have to die, the setting of the soul on fire is a one way thing, for regular people at least. When Vic is summoned by Euron to the bedchambers Euron has freshly come to the realisation that he's going to have to kill himself if he wants to try and fly and become a dragon, he's realised this because his horn blower Cragorn just died. That's why he blurts it out to Vic, seemingly without reason. It is playing on his mind. And it is what he means by; The leaping from a tall tower is a euphemism for suicide, for killing himself, blowing his horn. The flying is taking a dragon. Euron will never know if he can take a dragon unless he is willing to kill himself by blowing his horn. But as has been explained above, one needs more than just the horn. He needs a child of his own blood and a dragon/egg on hand. Euron seems to know this, and so he sends Vic to go get him Dany. He specifically needs Dany to make a child with. This is because he needs the child to sacrifice. The him he refers to, that the child is to be worthy of, is the dragon, Drogon. Euron needs Dany, the last dragon blooded womb in the world, to make a child with both dragon blood and his own. He is trying to recreate the circumstances that allowed Drogo to second-life a dragon. He is trying to follow exactly in Drogo's footsteps. Euron is probably expecting to get Krakens from her, probably because of his own blood and not hers. Maybe its all just more experimentation. My theory states that the sacrifice is required to turn the soul to fire and thus survive the fire inside a dragon. I would theorise (due to a line in TWOIAF regarding the grey king taking a mermaid wife so that he and his children may breathe underwater) that a sacrifice to second-life or skin change a kraken may be required to allow the person to breathe under water. But I stray from the topic here. Summerhall Applying the theory or even just what happened with Dany/Drogo/Rhaego to Summerhall sets up a twist I think is very fitting and becoming of GRRM. All the elements were in place at Summerhall for someone second-lifing a dragon egg the same as happened to Dany/Drogo/Rhaego as my theory described, but for the one element, and that element is most crowed about. A child didn't die in the womb at Summerhall, one just very very nearly did. Rhaegar was seemingly only barely saved from fire by the heroic actions of Dunk. Had Dunk not saved Rhaegar he would have burned in the womb, and we'd have exceedingly similar circumstances to that in which Dany birthed her dragons. My theory is this. The saboteur at Summerhall wasn't someone trying to prevent the birth of dragons. No-one was needed to try and prevent the birth of dragons, nothing Egg was going to do was going to work. You don't get dragons by praying over them and other such nonsense, we've had plenty of stories to back this up. That the saboteurs were trying to prevent the birth of dragons is senseless. Rather, the saboteur knew or had an idea, a suspicion, about how to birth the dragons in the way Dany did, by second lifing, but it would require deaths, sacrifices, and there's no way Egg or anyone else would consent to that. So the saboteur turned saboteur, and went secretly about trying to make the sacrifices happen. And it probably would have worked, but for the valor of the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Tidbits. I've not addressed the comet. It probably plays a role, perhaps it needs to be around for the soul to go to flight. An extra complication. I do believe most anything can be second lifed, and that is what Valyrian steel is, steel with souls within it. I believe the souls can split, portions of it go into one thing and other portions of it into another. Jojen basically says as much in the line I quoted of his far above. I do believe that there are inherent or historic properties in the bloodlines of some, and that these properties will reflect in a second-lifed creature. As well as a person's character. That is to say if Euron second lifes a dragon, it is going to become a sea dragon (kraken) due to his bloodline. And that to second life a dragon one needs to sacrifice a child with some degree of dragon blood (Targ/Old Valyrian). And it should be noted that Euron is wrong, Dany is the purest dragon blooded womb for sure, but not the only dragon blooded womb around, Arianne is a glaring possibility. A thing can have more than one soul in it. And a soul can be more dominant than another within that thing. That's not a theory as we are shown this first hand by Bran skin changing in Hodor, pushing Hodor's soul down so that he may have take control. And two soul's can fight within a thing and force another soul out, we see this with Varamyr and Thistle. So accordingly, that Drogo has second-lifed Drogon already doesn't mean that Euron can not do it too/again. I believe Rhaego actually exists within Drogon, with Drogo. Consider the scene the TV Show gave us instead of Dany's HOTU. It does lessen the "sacrifice" portion a great deal, but I still think it to be true given how it will line up with future elements I'm steering away from in this topic. And that the dominant soul or souls within the dragon can allow other souls to enter as well, making a dragon a heavenly vessel for the second life of many, the dominant soul(s) like a god passing judgement on who is allowed in. And that this adding of souls is why dragons continue growing. The stars, particularly those that whisper, symbolically represent lost/fallen/waiting souls, they are in the darkness and need a light to lead them to a home wherein they can live their second life. The more the person achieves in life, the greater their life, the bigger and better their creature will be in their second life. It is what is meant by this line, In regards to a dragon, it impacts not only its size but how hot the fire they breathe burns. And the bigger the creature the more souls it can allow within to share in a second-life with them.
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    Poll: Is Lemore Actually Ashara?

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    How far south will the Others get?

    They rolling over KL.
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    Quentyn's arc is preparation for Dany's

    As GRRM has Tyrion word it, Dany is before all else a saviour. She can't help herself. Dany won't have another child like Jon won't ever father a bastard. Its is very straight forward negative foreshadowing.
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    Quentyn's arc is preparation for Dany's

    But she walked into a funeral pyre and survived, came out the next morning with a bunch of dragons, something no-one else in the world has been able to achieve lately. And now she's riding one, something not seen for decades? Centuries? Whatever it is. She also embraced the sick without fear and survived without issue. She is special, she's proved it. She has good reason to believe in herself in this manner. I don't know that your framing is necessarily what GRRM is playing at in her arc. I can tell you how it ends, Dany will intend to sacrifice her's and Jon's child to wake a dragon to defeat the Others, Jon catches her before she can and executes her for the intent. Then she second lifes a dragon, waking it from stone and proceeds to save the world in Balerion form. So I agree she dies unexpectedly, that she is mistaken in the hero's path she will believe she must walk, what her fate heroic fate is. But other points I can't reconcile.
  22. I think its more magic and less science, in that the rules are not quite as rigid as I portray. I think as Drogon reflects Drogo, if Euron is to succeed in second lifing a dragon, that dragon will reflect his character and his ocean blood line, meaning it will become something like a corrupted sea dragon. And if Euron contracts greyscale then anything he second lifes will reflect that too. I think Falia is Euron experimenting. What I think happened at Summerhall is this. Someone (Shiera) suspected Targaryens are able to second life dragons and the sacrifice requirement. So that someone sabotaged Summerhall in the hope that it would result in baby Rhaegar's and other Targaryen's deaths, and that would birth the dragons. It didn't end up working because Dunk managed to save Rhaegar.
  23. Possibly Viserys went straight into the egg after his death but the child sacrifice was needed to bring him to life.
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    The High Sparrow's Plan

    The High Sparrow is a true believer who has no real plan other than to serve the gods. If the realm was ruled by a true and pious king he wouldn't have attempted to take any power from it. Thing is, he's in a bit of a bind, he's not sure what to do, what the gods want. The current administration is a godless heathen mess, the gods surely don't want that, but then what do they want? He's just doing the hard yards, sorting through the muck as best he can, waiting, hoping, praying that the gods will send him the answer. And what do you know? Into his lap is about to fall a brand new shiny Aegon. The answer to all his prayers. The gods are good! Varys is good more like.
  25. chrisdaw

    Shadows Babies and Others

    It is nothing to do with the Black Oily Stone, that is Euron's story, but Stannis will become an Ice dragon. The symbolic angle GRRM is coming at it is this, Melisandre weakens his soul by shadow casting him, and so his soul casts weak shadows. The Ice Dragon's wings are ice and will drape Westeros below it in queer, thin, weak shadows, or in a way no shadow. He burns Shireen and thus has the heart of winter. He casts weak to no shadows. He has blue eyes. Ice Dragon. The final big bad Dany will have to slay. That one.