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  1. There's also that book which Roose found in Harrenhall, read, inwardly digested and then burned to make sure nobody else found whatever he had learned.
  2. That's part of it certainly, but I'm also inclined to look wider. The Mummer's version introduced a character called the Night's King. Winter, the White Walkers and the Wights were all down to him and when he got offed by Arya it all went away. In reality, or at least GRRM's vision, there is no one adversary. Just as there were multiple parties striving to take the Iron Throne, we have multiple players in the struggle between Ice and Fire. The Starks, obviously, if perhaps too unwittingly, but there are others too. There is, or used to be , a fan theory out there that Roose Bolton has been offed by his supposed son Ramsay, but there are some significant loose threads anent Roose. There's Mance Rayder of course, but there are others too, just as by the Fireside there's Our Mel and Master Benero. There's Danaerys the Dragonlord, who like the Starks seems blissfully oblivious to the wider struggle, and so on...
  3. Ah. but rescued by the snowflake communion. Just as the big mistake too many make is in regarding this story as a game of thrones centering around the discovery of the rightful heir to the Targaryen throne, rather than looking at the wider, magical conflict between Ice and Fire, so that magical conflict itself has its competing players and perhaps Littlefinger/Loki is one of them
  4. Yes, there is clearly some kind of pact involved and in the nature of the Musgrave ritual, its been forgotten. Or rather the Starks have forgotten why they must hold Winterfell - and the consequences of losing it. The debt may be owed to the Children, but I'd be inclined to see the direwolves as guardians/enforcers rather than masters
  5. I don't think there's anything sinister in this. We're told how kings and prisoners taken in battle were sent north to join the Watch. Presumably they were marched north in a body under guard to the Nightfort, and then parcelled out in smaller parties to the smaller forts for integration
  6. No, the mummers claimed that GRRM had been compelled to reveal the endings to some of the principals' story arcs in that conference in Santa Fe, but the reason why the ending of their version was such a mess is that he didn't/couldn't/wouldn't tell them how those endings came about. As I said, Bran the Blessed Crow as High King makes perfect sense in terms of the Mabinogion, but without that context the mummers version gets it spectacularly wrong
  7. I think that both may come true, but while GRRM may have been compelled to tell the mummers how it ultimately ends, he obviously hasn't told them how it comes about and why. As I've pointed out before Bran becoming king is very consistent with the Mabinogion, but the head of Bran Bendigeidfran watching over the kingdom from a cave under a white hill is altogether different from what was served up by the mummers and likewise Jon, as king of Winter, slaying Danaerys the Dragonlord is a whole new ball-game from the mummers'version.
  8. Not so much ties as origin. Not so much "king's blood" as a particular blood-line
  9. Oh absolutely, that would be way too cheesy, I was thinking more of hands around the throat. but the Wall dividing Ice and Fire has to come down - and its going to take more than a cunning plan by Mance Rayder to dothat Blood built it, Blood stopped the Building of it, Blood will bring it down, Black will be its fall.
  10. The issue could be brutally direct in the end. Ice and Fire left unchecked are both a baaad thing, but perhaps they need to confront each other directly. Ultimately that might mean Jon Snow and Danaerys the Dragonlord getting it together, but I'd be more inclined to look for mutually assured destruction.
  11. In the immediate term this is a reference to the Stark link to Winter/Ice/Cold, but it also links to the White Walkers seen by Will in the prologue looking like brothers, and remember also that although not explicitly identified as such their features are very Stark-like.
  12. I agree. The critical bit is the intensity of the Cold.
  13. Both. but primarily the latter, although there's ambiguity anent the degree of force. Remember the faces on grove north of Castle Black, some are screaming while others are more peaceful and some even smiling. I'm reminded of the Danish bog bodies who appear to have been willing sacrifices
  14. That could certainly explain the apparent dichotomy of the tree-huggers and death, but perhaps a simpler explanation is the "input" of those human skinchangers sacrificed to the trees. There could of course be a delicious irony if those sacrifices were demanded by the Three-fingered lot.
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