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  1. As I recall its pure [and quite old] fanfic speculation by the R+L=J crowd which made its way across to the Mummers' version. There's no textual support
  2. I'm somewhat hampered here by not seeing the series [and distracted by real world events], but this does seem to be getting to the heart of the dragons' relationship with the Targaryens and how Danaerys, the last Dragonlord, fits into things - I'm convinced by Frey Family Reunion's argument. However, if he is indeed right, then that only emphasises how far Jon Snow is outside that circle
  3. I think not and that the passage should be read straight, but of course [and thank you for reminding us] it does rather suggest motive for the murder attempt. Cersei? Jaime?
  4. She was a "far eyes", a lookout halfway up a tree - dead
  5. Not necessarily if its true, ie: comes from GRRM It suggests that they are enlarged [inflated] by magic beyond their natural size
  6. Oh the pattern is very intricate, but he's still a gardener and there are a lot of loose threads [and weeds]
  7. Exactly so and that's pretty explicit by the way it becomes a plot device in the book
  8. I'm not convinced that the wights are an "enemy". That requires a consciousness and intelligence they clearly don't have. Rather the "enemy" is the cold, which raises them. I'm not even convinced anent the walkers. Yes, they are Nazgul, riding those cold winds and so associated with the wights, but that aint the same thing as raising and controlling them A real life parallel might be herds of bison/buffaloes. The size of a herd is dangerous, trampling all in its past. Native American warriors can pass through it for concealment, and they can direct it to some extent, but that's not the same thing at all as acting as generals and by the same token I don't see Walkers "commanding" armies of wights.
  9. The problem with that scenario is Joffery Joffrey being the Joffrey we all knew and loved is just not someone who has that sort of contact with someone so far down the social scale.
  10. That's why I think that it is simple Somebody thought it would be a good idea to kill Bran. The intended assassin could have done it with a common kitchen knife or strangled him, or suffocated him, or bashed his head in with a half brick Instead he attempted to use a Valyrian dagger which was quickly traced back to the Royal household. Clearly it was intended to be found at the crime-scene
  11. Looking at this sensibly. We have a low-born, anonymous would-be killer. He doesn't look, sound or behave like a faceless man. There's no reason to believe that he isn't the loser he appears to be. Whoever he is/was, somebody hired him and provided him with an expensive dagger. Why? Bran wasn't reckoned to be able to fight him. A cheap knife, which he would have anyway, to cut food or whatever would have sufficed Instead he is given the murder weapon. He's not going to flee with it in his possession - and get caught And then there's the unexpected appearance to Catelyn The answer is actually ridiculously simple Bran was to be discovered - dead And the dagger was to be found sticking in his corpse - hence the reason for the dagger instead of a common [anonymous] kitchen-knife.
  12. Indeed. The whole purpose of the exercise was to leave an incriminating dagger at the crime scene. There was no point in the catspaw having it otherwise and we can see this in the text by the discussion anent its origin and ownership
  13. Another mark against Joffery being [directly] responsible, is that fact that he's now dead. If there was any point to Joffrey having dunnit it would have been revealed before he died. There may well have been some involvement by Joffrey in the plot [Tommen is far too young], after all the dagger had to come from somewhere, but he wasn't the instigator.
  14. Only up to a point. Joffrey never had the intelligence to plot something like this, far less deal directly with the catspaw. I'd be more inclined to see this as somebody unseen suggesting to Joffrey that it would be an absolutely splendid idea and that using a dagger belonging to the King would give the deed the royal imprimatur. So who then was best placed to suggest it to Joffrey ?
  15. Who needs wights? Others aint dead Seriously though, there is a point here that while Mel [ignorant until Davos enlightened her] might be looking for the battle to begin up north and the faithful are looking for her to do her stuff and summon Azor Ahai as portrayed in the Mummers' version, I think that she and the faithful are going to get a shock
  16. "Melisandre is at the Wall looking for Azor Ahai" Mel [rapturously on seeing Jon Snow walk in]: "My Lord! You are truly Azor Ahai come again to light the fire..." Jon [flashing his blue eyes] "Not today, My Lady..."
  17. I agree. When Aemon [Targaryen as was] talks to Mel, she spouts the Azor Ahai stuff and he responds that she's talking about the Battle for the Dawn. The clear implication is that he knows about it and links it into common Westerosi mythology and that they are one and the same - not a Targaryen family secret. The only family secret he appears to reference is when he insists that Jon Snow must take command of the Wall, because he is a son of Winterfell and it must be him or none. Idly digressing, of course, if R+L=J was true and meant what the Faithful claim, this would be the time for Aemon to reveal all - but instead he sends Jon in a different direction
  18. I think its a an obvious matter of misdirection The assassin, whether or not he succeeded, was clearly doomed, therefore it was important that his weapon pointed to someone
  19. It wouldn't surprise me in the least and if I'm right about Jon's next step, then Sansa is indeed destined to be the next Lady of Winterfell There is of course another precedent going slightly further back in that Bael's son became Lord of Winterfell through his mother.
  20. Oh there's long been pretty wide agreement among we miserable heretics that Jon's fate rests with Winterfell and Ice rather than with the Iron Throne and Fire. My post was entirely a matter of addressing Melifeather's questions anent real world succession
  21. Returning to Feather's questions yesterday anent King Charles III there is as I suggested a direct parallel. Without digging into the very complicated past, Charles has gained the Throne through his mother, the late Queen Elizabeth rather than from his father Prince Philip. In Westerosi terms it suggests that in terms of fate Jon Snow is primarily a son of Winterfell through his mother Lyanna Stark rather than anything his father [whether or not he was Rhaegar Targaryen] might bring to the mix
  22. Hi Mace, Welcome back A possible answer to your question. Being British I see some of these things in heraldic terms; as Feather notes above wyverns have two legs and wings, while dragons have four legs and wings. As wryms [worms/snakes] obviously have neither that would suggest a step by step evolutionary path with questions asked anent whether it is a natural evolution or a managed one.
  23. Yes, Gl├╝cksburg, or more properly Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Gl├╝cksburg. Related to the Counts of Oldenburg, but that goes back to mediaeval times
  24. Politics and religion. Queen Elizabeth died in 1603 leaving no children, so the English throne passed to James VI of Scotland who was a great-great grandson of Henry VII [via Henry VIII's sister Margaret] James VI was succeeded by Charles I, then his son Charles II, then James VII. The latter was very able, but a Catholic, so got kicked out in a coup and replaced by his Protestant daughter Mary. She died leaving no children so the throne passed to her younger sister Anne, also a Protestant. Anne's children died, so when she died in 1714 the choice was between James VII' son, James [a lamentable lack of imagination in naming children] or George of Brunswick-Luneberg/Hanover. George won because [a] he was Protestant, and [b] he got on the boat first. Some notable squabbling followed of course - the Jacobite Risings - but George and his descendants hung on to the throne Of course I should have mentioned that although Queen Victoria was directly descended from George she married Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha [another German], so strictly speaking the late Queen Elizabeth follows
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