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  1. nara

    Robb instead of Catelyn

    It would have been hard for Robb to be undetected in KL, in the same way that Cat was seen by LF and Varys. Or Robb might have been spotted trying to make contact with Ned, the girls, Jory, or another of the Stark entourage. (He would probably not have trusted Petyr enough to meet in his brothel the way Cat did.) Once that happened, he might have to pay his respects to the king and queen and make some excuse for his presence. After that, any interaction with Joff could have led to a conflict, especially after the deaths of Lady and Mycah. Yes, Robb should know enough to keep a low profile, but he's only 14 or 15 at this point, and we know he is somewhat impulsive (marrying Jeyne). Also, he did not have enough sense to be polite to the queen's brother (Tyrion) at Winterfell, so clearly tact and discretion are not his strengths.
  2. nara

    Robb instead of Catelyn

    If Robb went, Theon would probably have accompanied him. Options for what would have happened: 1) Littlefinger would intercept them and bring them to his brothel (as he did Cat) and they would never have left--living lives of debauchery! ;) 2) Robb would have gotten into a fight with Joff (remember, they already were close to a fight in Winterfell) and that would have ignited the Stark Lannister feud, instead of the kidnapping of Tyrion.
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    Your favorite 'hateable' character

    Agree and agree and welcome to the board!
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    Your favorite 'hateable' character

    Cersei Lannister. When she shows up on a page, something interesting happens or something amusing/snarky gets said or thought.
  5. He and Jaime both take a few seconds longer than they should to react, but they both step between Cersei and the wight. Had to slomo watch to see it. Re: awkward Jonerys sex, I realized that one of the things that bothered me was him going to her room. Once Jon bent the knee, going to her room was disrespectful of his queen and presumptuous. If she had gone to him, that would be different.
  6. I really hope so, because setting aside his son with Elia makes my blood boil.
  7. Overall, I enjoyed the episode. The end of Lord Baelish was predictable. But to be honest, I’m not sure if that was just because I am active on this board. I’d be curious to know what others thought. I did not like that he was a little tearful at the end—I felt he should be strong until the end, playing the game. For a moment, I thought that he was faking tears to play on Sansa’s emotions, but I think that he was shown to be really afraid. Also, Ned Stark would have said the (wo)man who passed the sentence should swing the sword. Sansa should have killed him herself/ And they should have done this in episode 5. I’m glad Theon found himself and is going for his sister. I think he’s headed for his heroic death. He paid the iron price for the respect of the crew—and then washed in the waters of the sea. Also glad that there was finally a benefit to him having no genitals—no pain when he’s kneed in the groin. (I wonder if Jaime will eventually see some benefit to not having his right hand!) I just wish that he had mentioned Robb in his convo with Jon. Ned was mentioned a lot in this episode, but Theon was Ned’s hostage. Robb is the one he loved, bent the knee to, and betrayed. BTW, I thought Sansa and Arya should have mentioned Robb, Cat and Rickon in their conversation—in addition to Ned. And now for the KL sequence. · I am totally getting Cersei’s outfit for winter! And I respect the fact that she’s the only one who didn’t get out of her chair at the sight of the dragons. (Boy, can Dany make an entrance!) That’s how a queen behaves! I thought she played the scene well—trying to get Jon out of the way, pretending Euron was a coward (I may be as dumb as Jaime, but I thought he was leaving too), etc. · I enjoyed all the reunions, and I’m glad they didn’t forget that Pod worked for Tyrion first. I was also glad that Jaime/Brienne was a cold reunion—it would be weird if they were back to being buddies so quickly. The Clegane brothers reunion was a little underwhelming due to Gregor being much shorter than the original actor. Mountain? More like a hill! I did feel like Drogo and Dany should have remembered Jaime and Bronn, who tried to kill them, and reacted in some way upon seeing them again. I enjoyed the Brienne/Hound reunion—will the Hound be possible competition for Tormund with regard to Brienne’s attentions? I did not like the look Cersei gave when she caught Brienne looking at Jaime. You better run, girlfriend! Cersei threw the last girl who looked at Jaime into a well! And she was only 10 years old when she did it! · Nice reaction by all to the wight, but since when do we kill wights with dragonglass—isn’t that the White Walkers? I feel like mentioning that the wights are the least of their worries should have happened. · I liked that Jon kept his oath, but I felt like Dany could have released him from it and solved some problems. I laughed out loud when he suggested that maybe trusting the witch who killed Drogo did not make sense. · Cersei and Tyrion back in a room together—yay! IMO these two have more chemistry than any 2 actors on the show. Excellent convo—glad that they didn’t forget about Tywin and the children. · I wonder if Cersei totally played Tyrion or whether he knows she was faking support for the mission? I know I was taken in and cheering when I thought the Lannisters were coming to help. · I thought that the break between Jaime and Cersei was handled very well. It pissed me of in the books that Jaime abandoned the love of his life and the mother of his children out of jealousy. Honor and keeping their pledge makes much more sense. I squealed (a high pitched gasp that could probably be heard by the entire building) when Cersei gave the signal to Gregor (and I noticed that there was a tear in her eye as she did so). So why didn’t he kill Jaime? If it was just a bluff on Cersei’s part, I hope Jaime keeps that in mind when he comes back to kill her. I’m just glad she didn’t yell out that the baby was not his! · I wonder who will lead the Lannister forces without Jaime. Gregor cannot speak…Would love to see Cersei lead them herself, but that’s extremely unrealistic. I did like that she was smart enough to notice that 1 dragon was missing. Smart Show Cersei is great! · I wonder who will lead the Golden Company. If it’s Daario, will he betray Cersei for Dany or will he be pissed that Dany is now with Jon and fight for Cersei? Dany/Jon: Was it just me, or was that sex scene really awkward looking? I think it was because they were trying to make sure there was no frontal nudity, but I think it could have been managed better. Also, I think that sex scene would have been better in the last episode, after the tense battle and emotional “death” of Viserion. And why was Tyrion creeping outside of the bedroom. Did he hope that Dany would fall for him? Or did he broker a deal with Cersei in which he would negotiate for her unborn child to become Dany's heir (since Dany cannot have one)? And was Jon + Dany interfering with that idea? Was that the guy who played Viserys who was Rhaegar? He sure looked like him. Glad that Jon’s parentage was confirmed. It pisses me off that they named the child Aegon, even though Rhaegar already had an Aegon. Yes, baby Aegon was dead by then, but if Rhaegar chose the name, as it’s likely he did, that really sucks! And the wall came tumbling down! That was excellent. Since the NK rode a dragon, does that mean he’s a Targaryen? Was that fire or ice coming out of the dragon?
  8. nara

    [Spoilers] EP706 Discussion

    That was before they installed the EZ Pass lanes. Drain the swamp!
  9. Maybe Jon is not nearly as alive as he would like us to think. He no longer needs to breathe and can survive underwater... Regarding Sansa, I initially thought that LF was suggesting that she use Brienne to protect herself from Arya, but others have suggested that he meant for her to use Brienne to kill Arya (to protect herself). Getting rid of Brienne could be Sansa's way of preventing Brienne from being used to kill Arya...or it could be her way getting Brienne out of the way so that she cannot protect Arya. Your use of the word "giant" reminded me that they also have at least one ice giant. Why was he missing from the battle? He could have stepped over the water and crushed our heroes. I gave this episode a 6. Nice CGI but I didn't have the same fear as I did in the loot train battle. I don't think the tension build up was as good in this case--perhaps because there were so many named characters involved who needed to be given lines and shown doing things. And why did the NK kill the flying dragon, instead of the one that was conveniently stationary on the ground? He would have stranded Dany and the rest too if he'd gone after Drogon.
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    [Spoilers] EP706 Discussion

    Maybe those are the ones that didn't get used in the Battle of Blackwater... Agreed, especially after we heard that Jon hadn't bothered to contact them in weeks. (Based on the way they were able to contact Dany and get her there quickly, sending ravens is an easy thing to do.) Let Sansa rule the North and I'm beginning to think Cersei and Jaime getting married and ruling the South would be better than Dany or Jon or Dany/Jon/ I was really glad that Jon and Jorah discussed Jeor and Longclaw. I thought for sure that Jorah saying no to the sword was foreshadowing his death, but I'm glad to see that didn't happen. As someone mentioned above, a comment about Lyanna Mormont would have been good. I know that Brienne going to KL will lead to a reunion with Jaime, but I actually think Tormund is more deserving of her. Of course, Cersei will try to kill Brienne because she represents Sansa, and that will cause Jaime to break with Cersei. I'm just not a Brienne/Jaime shipper so it kinda annoys me. Of course, Brienne will arrive in KL in 1 episode after borrowing LF's teleportation device. I was thinking that a couple of the Snowmen would die, so it was a little bit of a let down that only Thoros died. The NK could easily have killed all of them. Why didn't he? (I am glad they evened the playing field and showed how dragons can also be killed by the WW.) Of course, Sandor can now go to Winterfell and help Sansa and Arya (and reveal the truth about Sansa's suffering to Arya and the truth about LF to both of them) so that's good. Also, I thought that was a waste of Gendry, other than the joke about Tormund having sex with him. Maybe he will also go to Winterfell and help get the real Arya back. I was really hoping to either see Tyrion jump on a dragon to accompany Dany or to see Jon rise from the water on the back of whichever dragon that was that got wighted. Frankly, that would have been cooler than Benjen ex machina IMO. BTW, would it have killed them to have Dany or Jorah call out the name of the dragon that got hit? Jon calling Dany by her name was weird. How would he even know that was her nickname? They should have had Jorah call her that at some point--I think he's the only one left who ever called her that. I get that it was just to get to the part where Jon called her "my Queen" but that was jarring for some reason. I wish they had just made them have an arranged marriage, rather than trying to make it a love match. Arya was really pissing me off this episode...to the point where it won't bother me if Sansa kills her. Maybe they want to create a dramatic impact when she finally sees Jon again. And by the way, what's preventing Arya from wearing nice clothes and getting a decent haircut? No doubt, Sansa can hook her up quickly. (BTW, I was hoping we would finally see Arya with a good haircut and clothes that flatter her--poor Maisie has had no luck in costuming since Season 1.) I liked that the Hound continues to shy away from fire. I did like Beric's mention of the Mountain and the reminder of the fact that the Hound was hurt by his brother--potential CleganeBowl foreshadowing? Tyrion's succession planning was smart--too bad Dany was not wise enough to think about it. Perhaps seeing the death of one of her dragons will make her think differently. I also liked the mention of the "democratic" processes or the IronBorn and the NW. Perhaps that's where Westeros is headed.
  11. nara

    [Spoilers] EP705 Discussion

    Jon is a third child of his father, but not his mother.
  12. nara

    [Spoilers] EP705 Discussion

    Cat not knowing about the child was completely absurd. Because this is book stuff I will put in spoilers.
  13. nara

    [Spoilers] EP705 Discussion

    Love it! Unrelated: I am really curious how Cersei is going to try to justify getting impregnated by her brother to the public. "The Targs did it" won't work with the way she's been vilifying Dany. If she's no different from Targs, why not follow the one with dragons?
  14. nara

    [Spoilers] EP705 Discussion

    Wouldn't it be funny if the wight they find is Benjen Stark (a younger brother) and he proceeds to valonquar the crap out of Cersei?
  15. nara

    [Spoilers] EP705 Discussion

    I like "The Snowmen" . I do like the way the group was assembled from faces from the past. Giggled at Tormund asking after Brienne and Jon's smile. I'm glad they brought Gendry back, but I wish Tyrion had noticed he looked like a young Robert. Dany looked genuinely pleased to see Jorah, which made me happy. That last look he gave her and the hand-kissing tell me he's a goner next week. I hope it's a good death. The annulment thing made me livid. Elia was brutally raped and murdered protecting their children and Rhaegar had already annulled their marriage? Where would an annulment have left baby Aegon, who was Rhaegar's heir, and Rhaenys? I have never liked Rhaegar and this just made me furious. I agree that polygamy would have been better. Or why couldn't Jon just have been a bastard? Now he is the rightful heir (from Targ perspective) so it will get interesting when Dany finds out. Arya annoyed the heck out of me in this episode. She was terrible to Sansa and needs to grow up. I do like that LF outsmarted her. It's about time he was good for something. I felt sorry for the Tarlys, despite how mean Randyll was to Sam. But I don't get why he would stay loyal to Cersei--that seemed unrealistic. Now, if Cersei held Dickon as a hostage, that would be another thing. And all I could think of was that "the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword". It didn't feel right that Drogon killed them, but I guess that's Dany's version of doing it herself. I really enjoyed the Jaime/Tyrion meeting, and I really felt for both of them. I still think it would have been better with the Tysha reveal. Cersei preggers! It makes me wonder if GRRM is going there with Cersei's tight clothes in AFFC. Her comment to Jaime about betrayal made no sense since he didn't do that and she knows he didn't. But I guess this is her descent into madness. I like this twist, but I feel bad that the baby will die too when she gets her comeuppance.
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