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  1. The last episode of the season is titled "Valar Morghulis." I don't think Jaqen is done just yet.

    I liked Arya's scenes with Tywin, and I didn't mind the changes in her storyline until we get to Amory Lorch's over the top death scene. I'm not happy about them cutting out Weasel soup, but I understand why they cut it. The fact that Roose Bolton and Vargo Hoat held Harrenhal at some point in the books are ultimately meaningless to the final outcome of the story, so they just skip over it to Clegane having it from then on.

    I still think/hope they'll have Vargo Hoat next season. He and the Bloody Mummers just seem too important to be done away with.

  2. If anything Walder Frey would be even more slighted that Robb married some foreign girl than if he'd married Lannister bannermen. At least Jeyne Westerling was a Westerosi highborn.

    Even more-so, they make Talisa sound like she comes from a merchant's family. From LF's mention of the Gulltown Arryns who married into merchant families in Feast, it seems like merchants are looked down upon by Westerosi. Plus, she's a foreigner on top of that.

    Filch Walder Frey has far more reasons to be pissed at Robb than book Walder Frey.

  3. I was not happy with the Robb/Jeyne romance, and was pissed that there was no Weasel soup. Maybe Jaqen, Rorge, and Biter will be fleeing with them for a time (I don't think Jaqen killed all those guards by himself) giving them a chance for a final exchange, a coin, and perhaps a face change (how will they make that look convincing with their budget, tho?)

    I was glad they finally made good use of Ros as a stand-in for Alyaya

    I noticed this is the third time in the show they've used material from A Dance with Dragons for their script

    7/10 for me

    Hopefully next week's episode will be better. Martin is scripting it

  4. Off topic, but I wonder if the Damphair chapter confirms the speculation that he was molested by Euron as a child. Yikes.

    I think I remember Tommen almost telling Jaime at Tywin's funeral that he was molested by Joffrey. Its also just speculation tho, but I wouldn't put something like that past Joff any more than I would Euron.

  5. Twin Lannister's story resembles Okonkwo's from Chinua Achebe's
    Things Fall Apart
    , Okonkwo was embarrased by his father,and strived to be the opposite of what his father was. His father was poor, lazy, fat, effeminite, a coward, didn't have any titles and thought often. Okonkwo became rich, hardworking, fit, focused on being masculine not showing any emotion except anger, had two titles in his village, showed great prowess in warfare at a young age and defeated a famous, previously undefeated wrestler in the region's wrestling competition and he was impulsive. Lord Tytos Lannister was enormously fat, a coward, let the family fortune be squandered and his vassals walk all over him and amiable. He married his only daughter to the second son of Walder Frey. Lord Tywin, embarrased by his father, became Tytos's opposite, he looked younger than his years, had proven his military prowess in subduing the Reynes and Tarbecks in his youth, restored the family fortune and his policy with his vassals was pretty much self-explanatory with the Reynes and Tarbecks, was Hand of the King and never showed any emotion. He married his only daughter to a king.

    When I had to read that for my history of Africa class, I thought of Tywin as well. Things about his life resemble Edward Longshanks and John of Gaunt a little, but I feel like Okonkwo was in there as well. Sorry for the double post.

  6. Hsa anyone noticed that one of the founders of (I think) the Golden Company is named Ser Harry Strickland? Harry Strickland, of course, is the much vexed principal in 'Back to the Future.'

    That was his name? I remembered the last name. When I got to that chapter, I remember thinking, "You're a slacker, McFly!" Now I wonder if that was intentional.

    Edit: Darn, I checked, it was Gerold Strickland. I still hope that was where he got it from tho. Love that movie.

  7. To add on to that, Castamere might be named after Castamir the Usurper, the Gondorian rebel slain in the Gondor civil war. Heh, Martin loved him some Tolkien.

    Tho yeah, when I read about Simon de Montfort and Edward Longshanks, I immediately thought Tywin and Reynes and Tarbecks.

    Somebody got this one already. Still agree w/ it tho.

  8. I think I found another Tolkien reference, tho I'm not 100% sure.

    The d-bag singer Daeron has the same name as the d-bag singer Daeron from the tale of Beren and Luthien, who snitches on Beren to Thingol when he enters Doriath, then snitches on Luthien when she wants to go after Beren after Sauron has captured him.

    Could be a coincidence, tho.

    From an earlier post, coolbeans on Pyp=Pippin. Can't believe I missed that what with Sam.

  9. Does anyone else see a physical resemblance connection with Gandalf and Ser Barristan Selmy (particularly as Artsan Whitebeard?...)? If this notion has been brought up before, I apologize: the search feature for the forums is down again :(

    Its possible. Another one I wonder about is the Stormcrows mercenary company. Could this likewise be a reference to Gandalf?

    Possessed Theoden -"Why should I welcome you Gandalf Stormcrow?"

  10. This must have been mentioned before but I laugh on my Red Wedding rereads at "Jaime Lannister (Michael Corleone) sends his regards." Doubly fitting as in both cases the betrayals were in fact orchestrated by other men than the ones mentioned, Tywin Lannister and Hyman Roth.

    That is funny. I've only seen those movies once or twice, so I never picked up on that.

    ASoS and ADwD spoiler

    There's another I keep seeing. The doom BOOM drum beat was used at both the Red Wedding and when Crowsfood Umbar's army arrived outside Winterfell in Dance. This is the same drum beat the goblins used in Moria in Fellowship of the Ring.

  11. I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but I think there's a clear Monty Python : The Holy Grail reference in Dance. It's page 325 (Uk edition), a Quentyn chapter (the 2nd I think) : "That dragon queen's got the real item, the kind that don't break and run when you fart in their general direction".

    I remembered thinking that when I read that chapter.

    Asha's chapter, wasn't it?

  12. Just found something cool. Michael Crichton was a friend to artist Jasper Johns, whom he wrote a coffee table biography about. Lord Redfort's other two sons are incidently named Jaspar and Jon. Hmmmmmmh

    Oh well, with books like Timeline and Eaters of the Dead, I guess its not a huge shock that Martin's a Crichton fan.

  13. There's one or two homages in this series that I've always wondered about.

    Lord Horton Redfort of the Vale and later of the Lords Declarant had four sons

    Two that stick out in my mind are Mychel Redfort and Creighton Redfort

    Could this be loose reference to the late Michael Crichton? Sci Fi's Martin's bread and butter. I could see him being a big fan of Crichton's. (Does Redfort have anything to do with Michael Cricton's stories? I haven't got around to reading much of his works, other than the first 50 pages of Jurassic Park)

    Also, when I read Winds of War by Hermann Wouk, there was a character Pug knew from the military named Red Tully. I wonder if this could be the inspiration for House Tully, for whom red hair is a common trait.

    In general, Winds of War and War and Remembrance have ASoIaF elements to them, even if it's about World War II. Multiple POV's who become scattered due to WWII. Pug always reminded me of Ned as honorable and straight edge who's sent to become the naval observer at the US embassy in Nazi Germany and becomes something of a confident and envoy of FDR. The war effectively screws up Pug's perfect life (wife's messing around on him, daughter's sleeping with her boss in an age where pre-marital sex is not tolerated, ect.)

    Its possible winds of war had an influence on ASoIaF, but only because given what I've read, Martin's clearly an avid reader. You could probably throw a rock in a library and hit a book that's influence ASoIaF and his other works (course you'd also get in serious trouble with the library and possibly the law, but never mind that)

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