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  1. You invent her insistence that a 15 year-old boy be sent to the Wall which is widely known as a penal order. Didn't happen. Not in the text. Ned looked shocked. "He asked to join the Night's Watch?" Catelyn said nothing. Let Ned work it out in his own mind; her voice would not be welcome now. Yet gladly would she have kissed the maester just then. His was the perfect solution. Benjen Stark was a Sworn Brother. Jon would be a son to him, the child he would never have. And in time the boy would take the oath as well. He would father no sons who might someday contest with Catelyn's own grandchildren for Winterfell. Maester Luwin said, "There is great honor in service on the Wall, my lord."
  2. Indeed, she didn't object to or prevent him from being housed with his half-siblings in the family apartments, or given the same lordly education as Robb or Bran, and he was allowed to normally eat at the high table with the rest of them. She just let her cadre of servitors and retainers care for his material needs.
  3. Cersei, although she is malevolence personified, has moments when she is hilarious. ""Try not to sound so like a mouse, Sansa. You're a woman now, remember? And betrothed to my firstborn." The queen sipped at her wine. "Were it anyone else outside the gates, I might hope to beguile him. But this is Stannis Baratheon. I'd have a better chance of seducing his horse." She noticed the look on Sansa's face, and laughed. "
  4. And just to piggy-back off of your post, many people seem to miss the point of Margaery as Queen from a Tyrell perspective. The Tyrells are not desirous of having Margaery as queen because of the power she will have in her own right (not that much, she won't set policy or make appointments, etc... although she might be able to use her influence to send favors and perks to her family members). They want a Tyrell as queen consort because her children will be the future heirs to the Iron Throne. That's why they keep pimping her out.
  5. Way, way back in GOT , Tyrell Co. was trying to entice Robert into marrying her (which would require setting aside Cersei) They obviously had their eyes set very high.
  6. Cersei played a winning hand into getting herself imprisoned, shaved and marched through the streets naked, She toxified a key military alliance keeping her son enthroned, and activated an army of religious zealots on a purification campaign. Also, is currently kicking out another support from her ruling coalition by trying to break a marital alliance with Dorne.
  7. She's a mistress manipulator and a young attractive woman but also a skilled politician. Just because she likes to flirt does not correlate to the fact that she is willing to commit treason and jeopardize her family's master plan to have a Tyrell scion on the Iron Throne that involved them committing to an open insurrection against one king, throwing in a with a second and marrying out their darling daughter to three kings. She's not stupid.
  8. Black Aly Blackwood, who was a daughter of House Blackwood, commaded armed men in the field during the Dance and then ended up Lady of Winterfell when she married the Lord Stark. I am also DYING to get my hands on the next Dunk and Egg story about the Wolf Women of Winterfell.
  9. Oh, I think history is becoming more kind to Katherine Howard. She was raised in what was essentially a boarding school for noble girls and the inattentive noble matron who was supposed to guiding the upbringing of the girls in her charge did not do anything whatsoever to prevent her charges from being molested at a very young age by her kinsman. Katherine probably suffered from any of the common psychological traumas of victims of sexual abuse, which may include low self esteem, acquiescence to male authority and equating sexual abuse with affection. She's really one of English royal history's most tragic victims.
  10. Oh, but I think that is so much less likely to be panic inducing for Elinor and Alyn. The shotgun wedding and the very early birth that has onlookers counting off the months on their fingers are old as time. Westeros noble society has a whole subset of gossip about it and even one well known poorly kept secret that has permeated folklore about Lady Plumm and her husband's six foot schlong. Whereas, if Elinor falls pregnant by someone other than Alyn, Alyn knows they haven't had sex yet and that's the problem.
  11. Ah, but if you recall, they got arrested at some service of the Faith, a rite on Maiden's Day in which only virgins are allowed to participate, For the unmarried cousins, the fact that they are potentially unchaste is not illegal, but would be socially embarrassing. But they are charged for a Ecclesiastical Crime. Margaery's position is different. Tyrell Co. insisted that she was a virgin when they pimped her out to Tommen, so if she is no longer virgo intacto, then the implication is that she was committing adultery and that is treasonous to the King.
  12. I shall quote myself in archaic post I wrote some time ago:
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