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Daena the Defiant

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  1. That's a good point - Tywin's reputation for brutality was "baked into the cake" when Cersei became queen - it's possible that the Westermen were wary of giving over the daughters and sisters knowing what House Lannister is capable of.
  2. This is a valid point, but still, a train of ladies and minstrels and such is a trapping of power and status and Cersei certainly doesn't stint herself. It's also shrewd politics and something I'm surprised Tywin didn't press on her. You can bestow favors on your favored vassals by taking their eligible daughters and making them ladies in waiting so they can network and be seen at court and potentially make advantageous matches. On the flip side, and this something much more in line with Tywin's ruthlessness, it also makes them hostages to compel loyalty - which actually see in ADWD when Jaime collects a son and a daughter from the Brackens and Blackwoods (I forget which one produced which) - he gets to be a squire and she gets to be a lady attendant to the queen as an "honor" but they're hostages.
  3. So, so many. Mad Danelle Lothston Wenda the White Fawn The Red Widow The Sword of the Morning The Night Wolf and my personal favorite - Mallora Hightower, The Mad Maid.
  4. THIS! This has always driven me nuts. Cersei should have had a retinue of all the daughters of the Lannister vassals and such attending her the whole time. It's one of the things that GRRM didn't devote much thought to until later - when Margaery shows up, she has a large train of ladies in waiting and Cerai basically poaches Lady Merryweather from her.
  5. I think Aurane Waters will have some yet undisclosed role to play in Margaery's trial since it's likely that he's the one who knocked up Elinor Tyrell, Marge's lady-in-waiting and cousin who is a) betrothed and b) was likely seduced by the handsome Bastard of Driftmark, prompting Marge to try obtain Potion B (Moontea) for her cousin but was ultimately seized as evidence of Margaery's own unchasteness.
  6. Yes! But, I would counterpropose (and this is drifting off-topic) *another* colossal retcon is the Maggy the Frog prophecy which has sent Cersei into a death spiral of paranoia and meglomania all because of her perception that Margaery is the "Younger, More Beautiful Queen" (the YMBQ), when waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the series, it seemed that Sansa should have been recognized as the potential YMBQ and *that* should have triggered Cersei, far, far earlier.
  7. Coming This Fall - Read a thrilling YA series of novels centering on the young, beautiful Lady Cersei Lannister as she and her close group of friends explore young womanhood and romance (*) amid the fraught politics of the Reign of Mad King Aerys. The Lioness in Spring, available wherever paperbacks are sold. *(okay okay, in Cersei's case, it's her brother.)
  8. Exactly - if she was given out as an acknowledged natural daughter and then fostered at the Arryn Court, with its prestige and Andal hauteur, dressed well and kept in the proper style as a noble demoiselle, with a maid and fancy clothes, then maybe, maybe she would be something of a catch on the marriage market, because her posh treatment would suggest her father's favor, which then would imply *access* for the girl's future husband to her powerful father(1). Having her clean up mule shit in the stables implies just the opposite. (1) (coincidentally, just what we see going on with 'Alayne Stone')
  9. One more vote for Cersei, The Queen of Comediennes, Her Ladyship of Hilarity.
  10. well my friend - think of this way, as a very sage nun who taught me when I was 14 in high school. When you meet a woman, presume at any time that she's potentially menstruating. Waiting tables, teaching class, answering phones, riding the bus. etc. Even nuns. All the time, everywhere since evolution evolved binary genders. Get over it.
  11. Good thing you weren't born female. LIfe would an endless slog of icky, huh?
  12. I feel like Qyburn and Craster need to be mentioned prominently on this list.
  13. I used to belong to an all female book club where we discussed all things ASOAIF, made baked goods with a ASOIAF theme (some awesome chick made a cake shaped like Riverrun, for example), and other distaff arts and crafts. We called ourselves the Martinistas.
  14. The daughter of Lord Tully, raised at his knee to be the heiress to Riverrun, Lady of Winterfell and named Regent of the North by her husband, is insufficiently prestigious and lacking in dignity to treat with a self-appointed king? Who else has the social standing to speak with Renly as part of the same social echelon? Robb certainly couldn't go himself. Also, Renly and his Tyrell backers are all steeped in the culture of courtly mannerisms. No one in the story sniggers that Catelyn's embassy is weird or comical. Until such time as the Northmen declare Robb the King in the North, the rest of society was informed Catelyn was in charge - it's just that we see most of this story from _her_ POV and she makes great efforts to not undermine him or countermand him in front of his men, knowing that Robb is *this* close to his majority and then he will well and truly be in charge.
  15. Being a woman does not automatically prevent Cersei from assuming Casterly Rock. Being the Queen makes it politically unwieldly, but she was perfectly eligible under the rules of primogeniture as it appears the Lannisters practice. She would just fall in line behind her male siblings, but ahead of her father's brothers.
  16. Exactly so. It doing so would also reinforce the loyalty of both House Tallhart and the newly-settled leadership team of House Hornwood. I'd still let Lady Donella marry Ser Rodrik, but invite them to reside in Winterfell to avoid mischief. Although they are sisters-in-law, I cannot imagine Lady Donella and Lady Berena (either as the new regnant Lady of Hornwood, or in a quasi-regency capacity if she demurs for her son as the new lord - they are still children, right?) getting along all that well inside one castle.
  17. That always seemed to be too significant of a little factoid to have no importance - GRRM seemed to have buried that deep.
  18. This. Even years later, I don't understand what her goal was - yay. So you have crowned a queen off-site in the hands of a quasi-autonomous/quasi-hostile ruler, where she is a) betrothed to member of the ruling elite and b) basically a hostage. Was she expecting anyone else except the Dornish to rise for Queen Myrcella, especially since two of the mightiest houses (Lannister and Tyrell) are occupying the capitol and holding the reins of power. I'm still baffled.
  19. This! Although, I once opined that they were like the Westerosi version of Fox Force Five (thereby dating myself). My unpopular ASOAIF opinion is that Cersei is a hilarious, funny character, easily as witty as Tyrion.
  20. This. Riverrun sits at the conflux of rivers. It should have flowered into a fabulous mercantile city. Also, the Tullys should have owned a veritable armada of trading boats with entrepots and ports up and down the entire network.
  21. Don't forget she gave her handmaidens and attendants to be used in medical experimentations, and .... there's always this gem of an episode of how a woman in a position of authority should inspire service and loyalty: "That work can wait," Tyrion said. "The chain first." "M'lord, begging your pardon, Her Grace said those as didn't meet their numbers would have their hands crushed," the anxious smith persisted. "Smashed on their own anvils, she said."
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