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I am disappointed in this episode. :( Rob's marriage was something strange. I thought that there would be a moment when she says that she's not from Volantis and her name is Jeyne Westerling. Still I cannot understand why such a departure from the book. And seven gods... when he was so like his father.

Second disappointment was Theon and the fall of Winterfell. Who burned it in the series? Some men from Pyke? No Reeds, no Ramsay, no flayed men.

The scene with Sam was alright though those "men" looked like zombies from some zombie film.

Scene with Dany was bad. I liked Drogo and the baby, but I've waited for more.

Brienne seemed very merciless though in the book she found it difficult to kill.

Where's Dontos?

Ah, and Stannis strangling Melisandre. It's even worse than f```ing her.

But I liked the scene with the Faceless man. (:

The first season was much much better!

Couldn't have said better myself!

Whatever they do, I hope they don't get rid of the Dontos-storyline. We need him to give the poisonous hairnet to Sansa, it just felt fair for her to have a tiny bit part in Joffrey's death before getting out of that place. "Wear this at the wedding, it's justice for your father." We need to hear those words!

I am slightly confused about the Dontos's future. He did appear in episode 1,however, he is not necessary now to give Sansa a hairnet. Petir can do it, since he already openly proposed to take her away. I guess they will cut him

Very good post. It makes one wonder just how many more "subtle changes" we will be seeing through the course of the show and if we will end up like True Blood where by the 5th season the source material has been left in the dust and the show writers have taken over.

There is probably a little to much optimism around SoS being split into two seasons. I'm not so sure it's so we can get the complete story from the books. I would guess we are going to see a lot more "original ideas" coming in the next few seasons. Obviously Varys and Ros are going to have some contrived meaningless side plot that will only serve as a lazy way to shoe horn in more soft core sex at the whore house, what else?

It's bizarre that with the changes made to Robb's character, you have several fans posting here talking about how much they are anticipating the Red Wedding and want to cheer Roose on as they hate TV Robb. If I were the writers I might take a hard look at what the direction of the show is.

This has happened before. It's not unprecedented to see people doing an adaption try to dumb it down enough to please the general public. The result is usually the hard core source material fans eventually abandon it and then the public, being fickle, lose interest and walk soon too. You would think the core audience of these books and the long time fans would be at the forefront of the creative departments mind when adapting these works. Maybe it sounds crazy but some of us view this as not just entertaining but also very fine high level important literature, it deserves to be treated with respect and not cannibalized.

An excellent point about the book fans. Besides, it is not like we are talking about some obscure books nobody heard about... I think there are over 20 million books sold WW, while HBO subscription base is about 21MM. There bound to be about 30% overlap between book readers and show viewers. It is a substantial force that can get frustrated enough to abandon the show overtime.

The creators should look at the experience of LotR adaptations where Peter Jackson had a little over two hours to present a similarly-sized and complex material, while HBO producers have 10 hours! The first season was much closer to the book, and I believe so much stronger! It is about cutting and simplifying, and definitely not adding scenes and characters, such as Ros and Khal Drogo/baby appearance

As someone posted in another thread. Cat was a worshipper of the seven, so it makes sense that they married in a sept. Robb worships the old gods, Talisa is from Volantis where they worship R´hllor, so where do the seven fit into that picture? As was also mentioned in another thread, it´s the equivalent of a devout christian marrying a devout muslim in a buddhist wedding-ceremony

I felt the wedding with Seven was sloppy, like producers were going for a good TV without high regard to the attentiveness of the audience. Besides, those who did not read the book, would not know what Volantis worships, and already forgot what Robb does...

Really disapointed with the end.

Theon's part was horrible, no Ramsay, no reek. Really bad.

And at the... Why the others didnt kill Sam?? That was stupid...

It is too early for reek. Was slightly upset about missing Ramsay, but I thought the Theon's speech was on the brighter moments in otherwise highly disappointing episode

I do not expect the TV show to follow the book religiously. Was happy that the integrity of characters and their core was preserved (with the exception of Shae, who is much more simple in the book), however, was still frustrating to see your favorite scenes from the book being mercilessly modified.

HotU scene was unexpected, but interesting. The snow, the other side of the wall and khal maybe too much of a hint of what hasn't been written yet (it is clear that her war is beyond the wall, but how Drogo plays into it...). Still where is the prophecy??? It is a foundation for the entire Dany's storyline.

Not sure what is the point of introducing two interesting women in addition to books - Rob's wife and Varis's whore... I guess the first explains better the motivations behind Rob's wedding, since if just show Jane from the book, Rob and his feelings might seem lame on the screen. The second might help set up the future with a visible Varis's spy...

Blackwater was the best episode, by far - focused, emotional, true to characters. The last one - just wrapping all the lines... Slightly disappointing.

VERY afraid of what they are going to do with book 3, it is my favorite by far...

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By now I separated from my expectations of seeing a book on the screen, and just enjoy a parallel story. I feel like GRRM just has fun developing alternative flows of the story. Tyvon/Arya scenes are wonderful! The stealing of the dragons is an interesting development. They seem to kill off all dothraki before they even start playing a role...