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  1. NymeriaWarriorQueen

    Bran Truly Was The Best Possible Choice To Rule

    Jon could have always said that Daenerys took off on Drogon and disappeared. Tyrion and Bran could then have said Jon is the true heir anyway. But that’s not Jon. He owned up to his betrayal/murder and was willing to suffer the consequences. As far as I am concerned, he is a hero who adhered to his principles even though it cost him great personal pain and sacrifice. A tragic hero.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Remember when the liberated slaves hissed at her when she executed the freed slave Mossador after he murdered a terrorist she was holding prisoner? Her new followers didn’t understand her new kind of justice. They only understood that she was just another oppressor instead of a savior. She was killing one of their own which made her just as bad in their eyes as a slave master. Furthermore she disregarded Barristan Selmy’s advice earlier in the episode when he was telling her how her father burned the common folks villages and towns when they rose up and revolted against him. He advised her against executing the insubordinate slave. He told her that sometimes the justice you think people deserve isn’t the right kind of justice to do. Obviously, the kind of justice she inflicted on Kings Landing wasn’t merciful or the right kind. She was just another bad ruler to be and she would never be loved by them.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    What exactly is your interpretation? I guess there could be many according to the context it is used in. As it relates to Jon Snow, I see it as meaning he is the perfect balance between fire and cold. He utilized fire (his Targ side) to fight against the Others when they threatened to destroy the world and then cold (his Stark side) to preserve the world when it was threatened to be consumed by fire.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    That would have cleared up the confusion infans mind and made things clearer. They were just lazy bad writers this season. It is like they expected us to fill in the character development in our minds with our imagination.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    Daenerys proved that she just couldn’t balance her emotions when it was needed the most. She should have always known that there was a chance she could lose her dragons and advisors. However, she was so confident that everything was her right and destiny that she felt invincible. She was unwilling to let her army and dragons rest after the war with the dead. She was probably tired herself and that is why she forgot about the Iron fleet. The closer she got to power then the harder it was for her to exert impulse control. Her anxiousness combined with grief, loss, jealousy, and vengefulness unleashed her need to take total control with fire and blood. Her victory was exhilarating and having power made her yearn for more. Daario was right when he said she was meant to be a conqueror. I don’t think she would ever have been happy just ruling Westeros.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    After nearly a week to reflect on the finale I feel no one should be surprised by Dany’s actions. She always said she would take what is hers by Fire and Blood. Well.....guess what? She did exactly that. Also...it should have been expected that she would not have been embraced as “Mhysa” in Westeros. Her WMDs (dragons) just didn’t inspire love amongst the people. She was seen as a tyrant and not a loving mother. Jon seemed the logical choice to stop her since he was the only person in Westeros who could get pass Drogon (due to his Targ blood) and close enough to assassinate her. Jon was destined to put honor and duty above love for a woman. For instance, I am rereading now and when Halder was beating on newly arrived Sam with his sword and drove him to the ground and then was instructed by Allister Thorne to keep beating Sam Jon steps in. He says “There’s no honor in beating a fallen foe. He yielded”. Early sign it was established that he would intercede once an enemy surrendered and come to the aid of innocents. Jon had a personal moral code. He struggled with it over the years and just when you thought he might abandon it due to love he remained true to his self. Maybe the writers could have spent more time building up character motivation and complexity instead of rushing from one plot point to another but ultimately I think things would have ended the same.
  7. I just don’t think GRRM cares much for romance or writing a great love story. I still think book Jon will recall Maester Aaemon’s words that love is the bane of honor and the death of duty. I feel his whole arc is to become the man (kill the boy) who sacrifices love for honor and duty.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    If D & D had gotten their way then Jorah would have betrayed her too after the attack. Deleted scenes indicate he supported Jon and Tryrion and was to go with him to the Wall. Guess we got lucky with the ending we got. I know I prefer it.
  9. This is just crazy. I may have gotten this wrong but I think the deleted scenes or alternative endings will be available in the blu-Ray box set. It would be nice if they had a good one for all the disappointed Dany fans. It appears though it will only be worse.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    He was on a ranging mission and the kicker is that Jorah was suppose to be with him in the alternate ending as deleted scenes indicated he betrayed Dany too and supported Jon. He was filmed at the feast celebrating with the Northerners and advising her against going to KL too. This further explains why Daenerys felt so distraught and looked disheveled. Glad they backed away from this ending.
  11. Jorah was suppose to betray Dany too according to the deleted scenes and alternate ending that they ultimately rejected. He apparently was supporting Varys, Tyrion, and Jon. He would be taking the Black with Jon and seen with him on a ranger mission in that last scene. EMergency Awesome has a video with the deleted scenes on YouTube. Link:
  12. Wow!Just learned things could have been worse for Dany. Jorah was set to betray her too and side with Tyrion and Varys. He was then suppose to take the Black too and go ranging with Jon in the end. This video explains it with the deleted scenes.
  13. Dany violated the rules of war by committing war crimes. She totally ignored the surrender and slaughtered and burned civilians. She heard them crying “Ring the Bells” but didn’t care. That is why she is worse than Ayra, Cersei, and others.
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    After almost a week most fans here seem to agree the writing was lazy and rushed this season. Regardless.....in light of the foreshadowing and comments from Emilia it is clear this is the arc the showrunners intended for Dany. We will just have to agree to disagree and that is OK with me. We all have a right to our opinion and to express our frustrations and rage. I think I have said all I care to say right now. It appears the discussion is now just going in circles and I am dizzy...lol.
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    I disagree with you. Her actions were not always justified nor was there always goodness throughout her reign in Essos. Many fans felt she was in the right because the characters Dany were murdering were themselves extremely unsympathetic and villainous. It was a failure to see her increasing cruelty because of her charismatic personality and ability to also be empathetic at times. Her anti-slavery crusade may have worked for her in Essos but the message didn’t seem convincing or appropriate for Westeros. When the people did not embrace her with love then she decided to use fear and violence to bend them to her will. That is not right! She should have remembered Barristan Selmy’s counsel and showed some mercy when it mattered the most. Refusing to do so ultimately resulted in her death.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    When Euron killed Rhaegal and then Missandei I made a comment that I hoped she burned them all. I cried about Rhaegal. Of course I came to my senses and realized Daenerys barbecuing all the innocents in KL after the city’s surrender was just WRONG. There is no justification for what she did.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    I just watched this today. D&D were signaling to us the turn to Dan’s dark side back in Season 3. See around the 3:35 mark.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    Good point! Margery was good at winning over the smallfolk by visiting the poor, disadvantaged, and talking to the children. We never saw Daenerys attempting this in Westeros.
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    Not really. She always had to resort to violence when her attempts at mercy and peacekeeping failed. She flunked at ruling.. Even Daario told her she was not meant to sit on a chair in a palace but that she was a conqueror. That’s when she decided to abandon Meereen and go to Westeros.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    I love this interpretation of Jon Snow’s ending:https://nerdist.com/article/jon-snows-happy-ending-in-the-game-of-thrones-finale-explained/
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    She was not fundamentally good. She ultimately was all about Fire and Blood. I understand you are unhappy with the writing. So was I but eventually you have to realize that the story ended the way the writers intended. This was their story to tell....not ours. Emilia even knew her arc would be like Lawrence of Arabia and how absolute power corrupts.
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    People's reaction to Dany turning Mad Queen says something about us as humans

    Can’t wait till the books come out so we can actually see Daenery’s character arc in greater detail. I suspect she will turn out the same.
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    Oh, no doubt about it. Right before he kills her she was going on about choosing and that she or they would choose for others because they were the ones who were right.....not anyone else. He knew at that point ( as I mentioned in my earlier post) that there was no reasoning with her and that she would always feel justified in her actions no matter how heinous they were.
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    A season of Jons betrayal

    Sorry....I just think that is wishful thinking that she would calm down. In her Nuremberg speech she mentioned going to Winterfell and Dorne. How could Jon accept her burning down Winterfell and killing his family? That is totally unrealistic to think Jon would ever find that acceptable. He may be a Targaryen now but he grew up with wolves and more closely identifies with them.
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