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Ser Lepus

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  1. That's normal for Westerosi. Everybody with power thinks that they are owed their position due to their birth...
  2. Have you heard about Great Chess, the game King Alphonso the Wise of Castile wrote about in his Codex of Games? He also wrote about a 4-players chess variant, the Four Seasons Chess, and Decimal Chess (normal chess plus a "Judge" piece), and he used 8-sided and 7-sided dice...
  3. But in the old times they used to always be weirwood trees.
  4. The Faith of the Seven was founded in Essos thousands of years after the end of the Long Night, so its founders had no experience with the Others (the Long Night happened when the Old Empire of Ghis was still forming, while the Faith of the Seven was created by the Andals long after the Valyrian had conquered the Ghiscarian Empire and they were expanding westwards). They may have known some legends about some Azor Ahai/Hyrkoon the Hero/Yin Tar/Neferion/Eldric Shadowchaser figure ending the Age of Darkness, but it wasn't relevent enough to their culture and to their lives to include them in their new religion. Also, it is very likely that even the Faith's oldest holy text, The Seven-pointed Star was written in Westeros long after the migration. The book claims that Hugor Hill traveled to Westeros chasing the promise of a great kingdom, but historical research says that the Andals left Essos in flight of Valyrian conquest. It seems to me like the Faith included the prophecy retroactively to justify why they left Essos without mentioning how the Valyrians kicked their asses... So, if the Faith didn't include the relatively recent Valyrian conquest in their holy texts, why would they include the way more remote, way less relevant to their culture Long Night, whose legend they may not even remember anymore? As for the Faith being "real" or not... I don't think any religion in universe is fully "real". The Old Gods exist, but they aren't real gods, just the memory of dead greenseers, and they may not exist anymore. Blood and Fire magic exist, but that doesn't mean R'hllor is real; people who don't worship R'hllor are able to use magic too. The Others exist, the Long Night most likely happened, and the Night King may exist in the books too, but that doesn't mean the Great Other exists... the Others and the Night King were just a mistake of the Children of the Forest, not some eternal cosmic force....etc.
  5. Unless I am misremembering it, Vale Mountain Clans are often called wildlings in the books.
  6. Every time Tyrion opens his mouth, with few exceptions. Tyrion has a tendency to provoke and enrage every person with power over him. The only exceptions are Bronn and the Wildlings, which he managed to make his minions... at least for a time...
  7. Is there a culture of investment in Westeros? In Late Medieval/Renaissance Europe wealthy people could buy shares of merchant ships, so you got a percentage of the benefits... distribute your money between several ships, and you won't lose it all in a shipwreck. You could also invest in buildings like homes and warehouses, and rent them away. Or you could buy bonds, or associate with a moneylender.... Oldtown and Myr both seem nice places for a peaceful person.
  8. We don't know who was Orys's mother. She may have been the daughter of a vassal, a household knight or favored servant, so he was raised next to Aegon, instead of growing in some shitty ramshackle fishing halet, far from the sight of the Targayrens...
  9. He mostly talks shit about all the Tyrells, and all Reach people in general, save Willas. Dorne and the Reach have been enemies for thousands of years before Oberyn crippled Willas.
  10. The problem is, the crown didn't really had control of the colonization of America until well into the XVI century, and even then their control was quite weak. For a long time, it was adventurers who did all the work on their own, and royal magistrates and soldiers only arrived much later. Technically speaking, Native Americans had the same rights as Spanish subjects, and it was illegal to enslave them, but in practice, the colonists did whatever they wanted, and they could not be punished because there was no real law enforcement to do it, and even when there was, they couldn't fight the colonists without having the colonies collapse, so they had to compromise. In 1516 three monks were sent as co-governors of Santo Domingo (then called La Española) with orders to protect the natives, and that same year Fray Bartolome De Las Casas was made Universal Protector of the Indians by the crown... and the encomenderos just ignored them. Bartolome De Las Casas was later made bishop of Chiapas and given power to protect the natives, and he was driven away... Luis de Velasco y Castilla, twice viceroy of Mexico and once viceroy of Peru disliked slavery (both of Africans and of Native Americans), but he couldn't outlaw it without destroying the colonies, and all he could do was to try to better the treatment of the natives. He later adviced king Philip II of Spain to not allow slavery in Philippines, since he could see it had screwed American society forever and he didn't want that model to spread around the world... The problem is, people who got into a ship to sail to America weren't planning on becoming farmers or fishermen or artisans once they were there... At that time, crossing the Atlantic Ocean felt like traveling to another planet, you were leaving everything you knew and loved behind, maybe forever, there was like 50/50 chances you would die of some tropical disease, and you knew you would probably need to fight and kill and maybe die... nobody takes these chances, faces these risks so they could grow cabbages in the New World... They took these risks because they expected to become filthy rich, they wanted to loot as much gold as they could and come back home, and if that wasn't possible at all, to seize a piece of land and become lordlings over it... that was the kind of people who made the first wave of Spanish colonists... they were adventurers, with a mindset similar to corsairs and mercenaries... "get rich fast using violence". And for a long time, these were the only people willing to make the trip to America. And not only they were violent, dangerous people you couldn't rein on easily, you also needed to appease them and work with them, because, without them, there was no colony. And the crown had more important stuff to focus its efforts on, like literally fighting every major and medium power in Europe, Africa and Middle East simultaneously, so in the end, the crown often resigned itself to let the colonists do as they wanted, so long as the money they needed to bankroll their wars kept coming...
  11. I don't think George R. R. Martin is any better than Tolkien at worldbuilding and at portraying real administration and economy... I mean, ASoIaF is full of plot holes... How do people even survive the long winters? Are there crops that can grow during winters in the south? How can pear trees, peach trees, cherry trees and apple trees even give fruit, if they depend of the regular alternance of cold and hot seasons in order to bloom and produce fruits? How can crops grow far north, if there is snow all year round every year? How can the wildlings multiply so much? How come merchants, guilds, bankers are so unimportant in Westeros? Are there educated people among the commoners? who do rich merchants and guildsmen go when they need a healer or a teacher or a scribe or an accountant? How does the administration work? How are tax collectors/tax farmers selected? Where do you find a person with a good enough education to become a tax collector or treasurer? Are there septons and septas with a decent education? How come there haven't appeared educative institutions to service these needs? Why has the retarded piratic Ironborn culture been allowed to survive so long? Why are the Dothraki soo primitive and stupid? And there are the teleporting ships... George R. R. Martin sorta scratches the surface, and he is satisfied with it, he doesn't try to make sense of it. The only difference with Tolkien is, George likes political intrigue and backstabbing, even when it doesn't make sense, while Tolkien likes a Confucian style "if a king is virtuous, everybody becomes virtuous, and everything goes well" idealistic mindset...
  12. Why would they settle beyond the Wall? They had already left several places with horrible climates, violent neighbors, not enough food and supernatural threats... why would they want to live in a place that has all of these disadvantages combined...?
  13. We don't really know about Valyrian rules of inheritance. We know how the Targaryen did things, but they lived isolated in Dragonstone for around a century after the Fall of Valyria, so we don't know if the Dragonlords of old followed the same rules or if the Targaryens were influenced by Andal customs... Also, when brother marries sister, it doesn't matter that much if there is a preference of men over woman as heirs... the son and daughter are going to marry and become co-lords, anyways...
  14. But the point is, no matter how desperate they were, kidnapping the king was suicidal; I mean, that was as if Cuba tried to invade USA to stop the embargo ... yeah, conquering North America would end the embargo, but I don't think there is a single person in the world who thinks Cuba would have a snowflake in hell's chance against USA...
  15. Everybody talks highly about him; he seems intelligent, cultured and honorable. I can see the Tyrells lying about his character, but Oberyn? No way! If Oberyn praises a Tyrell, you can bet he is a great person...
  16. As I said in another thread: I think that Varys holds no special loyalty to the Targaryens, and Aegon is a fake, probably Illyrio's son with his late lysene wife. He didn't save Rhaenys, but he didn't save Aegon either, because he doesn't care about putting a real Targaryen on the throne. When Tywin betrayed Aerys and sacked King's Landing, Varys probably was more worried about saving his own ass than about saving any Targaryen; he only came up with his Faegon plan later, once things had settled and he realized his life wasn't under imminent danger. I don't think Varys lied for the benefit of the little birds... Varys never said the real Aegon Targaryen was alive, it was Kevan who thought he was speaking about him... Varys was speaking about "his" Aegon, the one he has shaped, the only that matters to him. It was like: Varys: Aegon is coming. Kevan: Aegon is dead. Varys: Nope, he is alive and he is going to be awesome (by which he means, his Aegon, not the real Aegon...).
  17. I think that Varys holds no special loyalty to the Targaryens, and Aegon is a fake, probably Illyrio's son with his late lysene wife. He didn't save Rhaenys, but he didn't save Aegon either, because he doesn't care about putting a real Targaryen on the throne. When Tywin betrayed Aerys and sacked King's Landing, Varys probably was more worried about saving his own ass than about saving any Targaryen; he only came up with his Faegon plan later, once things had settled and he realized his life wasn't under imminent danger.
  18. Because the weirwood tree is the "heart" or "core" of the sacred garden. The Children of the Forest's places of worship were sacred weirwood groves in the forests. When the First Men adopted their religion, they planted "forests" in their castles, and put a weirwood at its center to mimic the CotF's sacred groves... The weirdwood tree is the "heart" because it's the most important part of the garden, it's what makes the garden a sacred grove instead of just a mere garden.
  19. Numenor crushes both the First Men and the Andals. The First Men are modeled after Bronze Age European cultures (bronze weaponry, tribal, build ringforts), and the Andals are inspired by Iron Age and Medieval European cultures. And in many aspects they are inferior to our world's Ancient and Medieval cultures from an economic, military and technological point of view (the exception being the Maesters' knowledge of medicine and a few other disciplines...). Numenor, on the other hand, is supposed to represent the absolute peak of pre-industrial Humanity minus gunpowder but plus magic. Pick the best sailing ship ever: XIX century clippers, Napoleonic Era ships of the line, XVI century galeasses, Zheng He's gigantic Treasure Ships...? The Numenoreans had better and then some. Are we speaking castles? The Numenoreans built Isengard, whose walls were laced with magic and indestructible... Cavalry? Numenorean horses were descended from elven horses imported from Valinor, the land of the gods themselves. Armor and weapons? Numenoreans smiths learned from the Noldor, who were trained by Aulë, the God of Smithing himself... Armies? Military tactics? Numenorean armies were so mighty that Sauron, the evil demigod who commanded armies of millions of orcs, trolls and humans yielded to Numenor without putting a fight. Arts? Culture? Nothing humans have ever created comes close to what the Eldar did, but the Numenoreans were the ones who came closest... Medicine? Agriculture? Animal husbandry? They knew how to heal every existing disease, and they had received knowledge on botany, zoology and biology from elves trained by the goddess who created all plants and animals... And Tolkien hinted that Numenoreans may have discovered gunpoweder weaponry and steam engines... First Men and Andals are dumbed down real humans. Numeroneans are the peak of what Humanity can aspire to be, minus modern industrial tech (because Tolkien thought modern tech was icky), but with lots of divinely-granted knowledge...
  20. Maybe GRRM just wanted to leave Aegon and his sister-wives's relationship veiled in mystery? There must be a reason they had so few children and so late in life... but GRRM didn't say why. You say "if it was stillbirths... why didn't GRRM say it?" but that would apply to any other reason we could give: "if it was ********... why didn't GRRM say it...?".
  21. In real life, inbreeding is a cause reduced fertility. It also provokes a poorer health and other problems, but the Valyrians, being magical, seem to have suffered of madness and deformed reptilian stillborn babies as a consequence of incest rather than mere ugly, unhealthy and low intelligence children like in real life... In short, inbreeding didn't seem to affect the Targaryen as much as it would real life people, and they managed to remain attractive and healthy, but they seem to have been plagued by madness and stillbirths. What if Aegon's sister-wives suffered many stillbirths, just like Maegor's wives did...?
  22. The part about the Lannister is true: They are descendants of Ser Joffrey Lydden, who married a Lannister heiress... But the story of Bael the Bard is nothing but a wildling folktale.
  23. I have realized that in the books BIIIIIIIIIG SPOOOOOOOOOOILEEEEEEER!!!!
  24. The Faith doesn't control the Maesters.
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