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  1. 2 hours ago, polishgenius said:

    To be fair as great as it would be to have him I'm not that fussed about not having got Haaland. Like obviously having a great talent would be lovely and we do need depth, but our frontline is not where the main problem lies and if we do get someone it should probably be someone we know can cut it while also be okay sharing time rather than another developing striker.

     

    eta: obviously if there was a proven world-class guy that'd be best but Haaland isn't that yet for all his promise.

     

    So you want a proven world class part time midfielder?


  2. 22 minutes ago, Black Crow said:

    Agreed. We have run this thread for the past nine years and more without this nonsense. Calm down please. Hopefully we only have a few months to go before Winds of Winter appears and moves discussion to new levels. Lets not fall apart now.

    If anyone has a grievance, use the PM facility, or step back and reflect. Don't use the public forum - it exists to discuss Westeros.

    :commie:

     

    You don't want a new career as an agony aunt? Me neither.

    Returning to recent subject matters, what Bran saw up north in his coma dream, I tend to side with Corbon on this. 

    I'm prepared to let the mystery be. And that's not saying I don't think the matter merits analysis, it does and I welcome and enjoy it. I just think we don't have enough data points to mount a defining theory.

    My personal interpretation is that the horror Bran saw was a metaphor for the concept  of the sacrificial offering of life.

    The bodies impaled on spikes of ice were just that ,their souls are now the Others.

    The lives sacrificed were offered to stay the advance of the First Men.

    Perhaps what Bran saw was proof that the Starks or he himself were responsible for this?


  3. 3 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

    @corbon, just to clarify something... I don’t think for a second that Ned volunteered anything to do w/ Jon to Robert. I don’t believe Ned just said, “yeah, I have a bastard son and his mum is called Wylla”. But more that Robert kept asking and asking, and eventually Ned followed the path of least resistance, which would be, one affair that produced a baby. 

    Ned just lied here.He told Robert his bastard's mother was named Wylla.

    He lied because he has promised to keep.


  4. 3 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

    That’s excellent, innit. I had heard it before, but I didn’t remember the heart trees had come from Mars. :lol:

    I really like any theories that claim Rhaego is alive. :eek:

    I think you've just summoned Megorova back:o.


  5. A weirwood grove on Mars spontaneously ejected itself to the extent that it exited that planet's gravity intact, flew through outer space, was then crash landed on Planetos.


  6. 33 minutes ago, Nictarion said:

    Did you see Peter Jackson’s They Shall Not Grow Old

    It’s incredible. WW1 films cracked my top 10 two years in a row. 

    The moment the footage changed from old WW1 footage to the remastered footage was a real holy shit moment for me.

    Looking forward to this.


  7. 1 hour ago, dog-days said:

    Watched The Two Popes and really enjoyed it. Okay, the relationship between the two characters may ultimately have been portrayed in a rather unrealistic way, but I was able to just ignore the artistic licence and enjoy the ride. Particularly liked the envisioning of the Papal Conclaves. Going into it, I thought I'd just give it a try and was prepared to give up after five minutes if it seemed too dry or boring. 

    I didn't give up on it, and in fact stayed up far too late to watch the whole thing. 

    Thought it was fantastic and Pryce deserves his best actor nominations.Hope he wins at least one of them.

    Just started The Outsider.Paddy Considine can do it all seemingly..


  8. 14 hours ago, Melifeather said:

    Look. I get it. You don't want to recognize the symbolic language in the text - that is unless it's something you've managed to pickup on. 

    Nothing to do with symbolism which I do recognize where I find it.It backs up,colours , embroiders, reinforces the narrative.

    I don't recognize time loop theory, using Arya's story to try to figure out Howland.So Mycah has freckles ergo Howland must be a cripple?

    Really?


  9. 2 hours ago, Lady Dyanna said:

    Oh, but seriously, those of you that have access to TLH should really take a peak at the miasma theory. I may have my differences with Voice, but I do respect him as a theorist. Honestly, I’ve always felt way out of my class and in over my head trying to discuss this stuff with any of you all here. There have been some amazingly intelligent, knowledgeable and creative people here in Heresy that I have been nothing but amazed with over the years. Even What’s his name that we all used to argue with that insisted that Jon Snow was going to fall down a sinkhole. You know who I mean... Texas oilfield guy. What was his name anyways? Wasn’t it something to do with Snow? 

    Addicted to Snow.


  10. On 1/7/2020 at 5:45 PM, Melifeather said:

    There's an unknown reason for why Howland sent his children to bring Bran to Bloodraven and the Children instead of himself, and I'm thinking it's because he's a cripple too. I suspect he's a cripple - injured somehow - because of other characters that are friends of Arya. Arya is retracing Lyanna's steps, and I suspect Arya's companions are repeating events that Lyanna's companions did in the past.

    Mycah the redheaded and freckled butcher's boy - cut down by Sandor Clegane

    Lommy Greenhands, whose arms are mottled green up to the elbows - wounded by a spear thrust into his calf and then finished off by a spear to the throat by Raff the Sweetling

    It's not so much Mycah's hair coloring, but his freckles that connect him to Lommy who has mottled green skin. Both companions died while Arya only pretended to die. In the past Lyanna died, but I think one or two companions were injured or are pretending to be dead. When Ned took a spear to his calf it seemed like a pretty severe injury, and without treatment the fever could have killed him. It also may have left him with a permanent limp had they not taken his life by beheading him, so I suspect Howland was injured during the war and it left him a 

    That's not making a whole pile of sense.


  11. 4 hours ago, Melifeather said:

    There's an unknown reason for why Howland sent his children to bring Bran to Bloodraven and the Children instead of himself, and I'm thinking it's because he's a cripple too. I suspect he's a cripple - injured somehow - because of other characters that are friends of Arya. Arya is retracing Lyanna's steps, and I suspect Arya's companions are repeating events that Lyanna's companions did in the past.

    Mycah the redheaded and freckled butcher's boy - cut down by Sandor Clegane

    Lommy Greenhands, whose arms are mottled green up to the elbows - wounded by a spear thrust into his calf and then finished off by a spear to the throat by Raff the Sweetling

    It's not so much Mycah's hair coloring, but his freckles that connect him to Lommy who has mottled green skin. Both companions died while Arya only pretended to die. In the past Lyanna died, but I think one or two companions were injured or are pretending to be dead. When Ned took a spear to his calf it seemed like a pretty severe injury, and without treatment the fever could have killed him. It also may have left him with a permanent limp had they not taken his life by beheading him, so I suspect Howland was injured during the war and it left him a cripple.

    Have you considered reading the story as a story?


  12. 15 minutes ago, Melifeather said:

    knight of the laughing tree and that the red eyes as being suggestive of the old gods, but what about his shock of red hair? Micah the butcher's boy, Arya's friend that she played at swords with, had red hair. Redheads also tend to have freckles and would fall under the "dappled or spotted" umbrella of symbolism which is frequently connected to the death of an innocent.

    The red hair is interesting.We don't know what colour Howland's hair is.Maybe he dyes it from brown to red.

    Interesting if he's protecting a girl who's changing it from red to brown.

    Aside from that, I don't see that we are connected on this front.


  13. 8 hours ago, Triskele said:

    I've only seen the first episode so far.  The scene with Agatha talking trash to Dracula while he does't have permission to enter is one of the wilder and more awesome scenes I've seen in a while.  Our lead actress was just tremendous there.

    I never got around to seeing The Square.  This is my first Claes Bang experience.  What a name.  

    I'm trying to watch The Square, but as usual Netflix have made the subtitles unreadable.Can't they just put them in a black box?

    Has it occurred to anyone at Netflix?


  14. He is short and wiry with a shock of red hair. He says he is no tourney knight but has the sort of casual arrogance that shows he has skill at arms.

    He claims to have been financially ruined at the Blackwater by ransom, yet he rides a chestnut courser, an expensive war horse. The same kind of horse ridden by Sansa at times.

    His sigil bears similarities to the knight of the laughing tree, but here the white tree with the red eyes is replaced by a large white mouse with red eyes. One is laughing, one is "mad". Both suggestive of mockery/deceit. Both suggestive of old gods.

    "We swear it by ice and fire."

    The background is bendy brown and blue for the lands and rivers he's crossed. Meera describes her father as able to breathe mud. He could change earth to water and water to earth with no more than a whispered word.

    "We swear it by earth and water."

    This is a live candidate for Howland Reed. I hope it is. Rather than a grand entrance stage left waving an affey davey, I'd prefer he snuck in under the radar without most noticing.


  15. 14 hours ago, bemused said:

    I've been off in limbo. This thread makes me feel like I've hardly been away ..;)

    @Three Eyed Crow For some reason, what I would guess to be the final third or so of your OP came appeared as a blank on my screen. However, we've bandied this topic about so often I think I know where you're coming from - and I too agree in very large part. All that I was able to read I thought was very well reasoned and clearly laid out. 

    I've only skimmed through the whole seven pages but there are a few random points I'd like to make. Re: Mance and the spearwives, I'm doubtful Theon ever did reveal the location of the crypts to them.

     From A Ghost in Winterfell, ADWD :

    As far as Theon knows, the lower levels of the crypts have collapsed, and I think he's correct - Mance thinks the crypts may provide a way out. He would think that because Bael must have had a way out. (For all we know, versions of the tale among the wildlings may specifically say so.) In any case, that was very long ago. A collapse might well have occurred in the intervening years (centuries?).

    I doubt he'd be hiding in the crypts if he didn't think he'd have a way out and he's sure to still have Mel's ruby cuff about him somewhere (he'd have needed it to exit Castle Black). He'd only need put it on to become a shorter, plainer man that no-one would look twice at. Though he'd still be in danger, he'd have much more agency than if he was stuck in the crypts, wondering what was going on above.

    From what we have been told about the bravery of spearwives, I'd be surprised if Frenya wouldn't fall on her spear before she could be taken (if one of her attackers didn't kill her first).

    Rowan is very likely an Umber ; either the stolen Umber daughter or her daughter, or one of the Greatjon's daughters that Jon mentions to Stannis. In "The Turncloak", Rowan is described as...

    She'd probably be relatively easy to disguise as a man, and the Umbers would definitely shield her. Especially if she's one of the Greatjon's daughters, they would all know who she is.

    Wex's story may foreshadow Squirrel's chances of survival...

    ...ADWD, Davos IV.

    (Besides, squirrels live in trees.. :) ... and Bolton men will again be searching.)

    @redriver convinced me long ago that Myrtle is actually The Liddle (playing the part of his old mother come back to us, as in the dream he told to Bran & co.)

    Willow seems likely to be an actual spearwife like Holly, Frenya and Squirrel and she's the one whose chances I feel least confident of.

    Still, since Mance was only sending Holly and Frenya with Theon and Jeyne, I don't think Willow would be the only one for whom there was no contingency plan. Though I haven't seen a hint of what it might be, I feel it's more likely that there is one.

    Theon I, ADWD :

    Later in the chapter :

    Looking at these quotes, it seems to me that the plan never was for all of them to get out at once. They have to act on the spur of the moment. Squirrel knows that Abel can fend for himself. Rowan knows when to act - seemingly without direction. During the escape, as they hurry off on their own, Rowan, Willow and Myrtle seem very purposeful. They know what they're doing.

    It only seems logical that anyone as canny as Mance would have discussed various alternatives with the women depending on what might mean a change in plan.. say, like needing to act sooner than expected and certainly what to do if someone should be killed or captured. It's the kind of thing he would have had to plan for all the time. For example, I can't help wondering if the particular song he plays is a signal to the women to act. Rowan doesn't say it must be now until after he starts playing and it's an unfamiliar song, not on the usual list of requests. It might be something no-one south of the wall would recognise.

    I'll come back to get carried away some more tomorrow.

    I think the best way of addressing this is as a meta analysis-"what the hell is Mance doing?"

    He's non POV so we have to go by what he does and what he says.That and several carefully placed lacunas that the author has decided to omit from his narrative.

    I think the PL and the HM both fall within his story and motivation.


  16. 33 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

    A good first half. Everyone has done really well, except for Firmino who's playing like he's been cast alongside his own nanna in a body-swap comedy.

    Hopefully he's taken off at half time.

    Nailed on to score then.

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