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Dany went all Stannis on the former slave who murdered the Son of the Harpy. Dannis???

Didn't it seem as if the wildings killed at least 200 BW'ers in the fight at ground level???

I'll never feel the same way about a ball peen hammer again. EVER!!!! John improvising and killing that fucking maggoty thenn with a lowly blacksmith's tool was too perfect! Talk about instant death! "If I had a hammer, I'hammer in the morning, I'd hammer in the evening all over this land...."

This episode? Meh.

I'm not trolling anybody. Unless you define "troll" as "anybody who disagrees with me." I just don't think Olenna got the poison from Sansa's necklace/hairnet. How could she know Sansa would wear the necklace to the wedding? I was convinced Olenna/Margery did the poisoning after reading the book, but I don't think Sansa was involved in any way, knowingly or unknowingly.

The screen shots are not conclusive. She either brought the poison with her or she had arranged to have it in Margery's necklace. I've read the books and I don't remember it being clearly explained that Olenna got the poison from Sansa's necklace.

I'm sorry, but the "Rains of Castemere" was not being played at the Purple Wedding because it's a "Lannister song". Given Tywin's character, he probably dislikes the song. Joff also dislikes the song being played. No, this was put in as an avatar of the forthcoming poisoning. It's also some sort of a clue to who did the dirty deed on old Joff. It's the kind of touch somebody like Olenna would think of. I'm still not buying the "she got the poison from Sansa's necklace/hairnet" BS. Didn't happen.

I hope Cercei has an end that makes Theon's experience with Ramsay look like a walk in the park. I can't have any pity on her. She's a stone cunt. Flaying is too good for her.

The singing of "The Rains of Castamere" at the wedding is some sort of clue to who dunnit, don't you think? It's an understatement to say the song isn't "wedding appropriate". What do you think it implies as far as identifying the poisoner? It's the kind of touch Olenna would think of. It's also Tywin's marker, no?

Why on earth would they be singing "The Rains of Castamere" at a wedding? Anybody who arranged that must have done it in respect of its playing at The Red Wedding". Who would have had clout enough to get it into the Purple Wedding's song list? Joff was clearly not happy about it being played. Did Tywin do it? Is he the co-conspirator with Olenna? Makes sense. Why does he need Joff? He's got Tommen. He's aware that Joff is off his nut and will bring big trouble. It's really a simple decision. He's got a ready-made scapegoat in Tyrion as well. Tywin's really pissed at Jaime as well. He's got to know that Joff is the product of his son and daughter's incest. This is the perfect outcome for him I think I'm going to have to look at the QoT/Twin pre-wedding chat a few more times.

Olenna either broght the poison to the wedding on her person or she had it in Margery's necklace. The Sansa theory would have been far to risky and difficult. Margery had to be in on it.

Please, let's stop all the nonsensical fantasies about Olenna somehow getting the poison from Sansa's necklace. The close up only shows her hand on a stone; it does not show the stone removed from Sansa's necklace. It never was. Removal would have required much more force than could have been done in a subtle way. I think the whole Sansa necklace gambit is a teaser put in by either or both of GRRM and D&D. I think Dontos imploring Sansa to get away to save her life is part of this con. How did Dontos know at this point that Joff was even dead. Anybody who thinks the whole "Here, Sansa, please take my mother's necklace" crap is part of some conspiracy with Olenna is out of their minds. She'd never trust somebody like Dontos as a co-conspirator. I can only imagine the Olenna?Dontos/Sanas scenario if it was cooked up by Olenna as one of two alternative strategies for get the good stuff into Joff's cup. It was probably a back-up to the main plot: put the poison into Margery's wedding necklace and get it from there at the opportune moment. Sansa/Dontos was just a hedge. Why do you think the QofT was so obsessed with Margery's wedding necklace in Ep.401? It was so she could get one she could jury-rig it with a poisoned jewel easily removable at the right time. Olenna could not have assumed she'd have a chance to get the poison into Joff's cup without involving Margery in some way. Margery put the cup in front of the QofT when she had the chance and voila! I watched the Sansa/OofT interaction at eh wedding many times. I didnt see Olenna remove one of the jewels from Sansa's necklace. Maybe she did but you really can't tell.

I detest Tywin. I can't wait to see him losing bowel control as he looks incredulously at the crossbow bolt skewering his lower. The only thing I'll enjoy more is Shae's strangling. THAT will be my favorite episode.

SIAP is not on the list you linked to. ROFLMAO!!!!

You named yourself well. Eponymous much?

It's pretty simple, really: he could not bring himself to kill her but he didn't want her to escape back to the Wilding camp and give the alarm. Jon is very young and completely inexperienced with women. He is a man of honor, however, and killing a woman----even a Wilding woman----is not really possible for him. I thought this scene was ok and can't complain about it. The thing I don't understand in the comments so far is this putative sympathy for Theon. Theon is a weak man and self-obsessed to boot. It may all be a function of his life as a hostage. I don't know and don't care. He has always been a user of others----Roz comes to mind. He's basically insecure and makes a willing sycophant for any stronger person who confronts him---Robb, his father, even Dagmar. He's a totally vile piece of crap and deserves what happens to him at the hands of Ramsay Snow/Bolton. Maise/Arya is just getting better and better! Why didn't that turd hit Joffrey in the mouth? Anybody else think the actor playing Jaqen looks like Brad Pitt? (SIAP) I prefer Osha neck-down to neck-up. Creepy scene between Cersei and Tyrion at Myrcella's departure. Could this refer to Sansa? I wanted this episode to never end. It might be the best yet for me.

Why didn't Catlyn kil LF (or have him killed) given that she knows he was complicit in Ned's betrayal and murder? His only defense to her allegation in the knife scene seemed to be something like "I had to do it; it was him or me." For a person who supposedly is a first-class hater, Catlyn is certainly a wimp. Count me as one of the peeps who doesn't like HBO Cate one bit.