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  1. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    Who Will the Lannister Army Follow?

    I agree with you. It makes sense, fake scripts or not.
  2. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    Who Will the Lannister Army Follow?

    I see someone’s been reading the leaked season 8 scripts.. Don’t worry. They’re fake. Probably.
  3. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    Season 8 Predictions?

    Oh, I like that! Long may she reign! Seriously, though, that will be awesome if Cersei wins in the end. Nobody is expecting that!
  4. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    Season 8 Predictions?

    Dany dies. Jon defeats the Night King. Cersei defeats Jon and keeps the Iron Throne. Bittersweet.
  5. StepStark’s commitment to hating Game of Thrones is truly impressive to behold. I’ve never seen anyone expend so much time, energy, and effort on something they so wholly despise since Hitler and the Jews.
  6. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    [Spoilers] EP707 Discussion

    People forget that Petyr only betrayed Ned after Ned refused Petyr's proposal to seize Joffrey and take power. Petyr actually tried to help Ned, which he tried to explain to Cat in season 2. When Ned asked Petyr to bribe the Gold Cloaks to support him, there was no way Petyr was going to go along with that stupid plan. It would have been suicidal. Ned screwed Ned, not Petyr.
  7. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 707?

    Best episode of the season by far. Good dialogue, good writing, good payoff and ending to the Littlefinger story. Great Cersei-Tyrion scene. Sansa finally comes into her own, having learned from the master. I also liked how they handled the Jon-Dany sex by making it gross by revealing it's actually incest right before it happened. It wasn't as cheesy as feared. Have to give credit to D&D when it's deserved. (Well, not on this hateful board..)
  8. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    [Spoilers] EP707 Discussion

    Valyrian steel is known to kill White Walkers. We don't know that it also kills wights.
  9. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    [Spoilers] EP707 Discussion

    Kind of ungrateful on Sansa's behalf. She only escaped King's Landing and Joffrey because of Petyr. He did actually love her, in his own twisted way.
  10. A Bong of Ice and Fire

    [Spoilers] EP706 Discussion

    This is the worst season so far, by far. It's still entertaining and has some nice visuals and effects, and the episode 4 battle was great to watch, but the the once savvy and compelling characters have all become idiots for no reason. The wight chase mission is incredibly, I mean incredibly stupid and ill-conceived. And not one person on Dany's council of imbeciles objected to it. There is still a chance the show will finish well in season 8. At least it will give us an ending to the story.
  11. No, I'm saying that the Tyrells and their ambitions as a whole are pretty much consolidated into Margaery and Olenna on the show. Mace is comic relief, and Loras is a plot device on the show. I agree about that.
  12. Why does what show Margaery does invalidate her character or make her uninteresting? It's a valid approach to the struggle for power. Besides, she does more than seduce Tommen and insult Cersei. She subtly and cleverly manipulates Joffrey by playing to his ego and showing him how to win over the people. She manipulates the people and wins their support with insincere charity. She manipulates Sansa with fake friendship. She even manipulates the viewers into thinking she is a "good guy". (She is not.) She does a lot. She is a great player of the game. That is subjective? What is objective - just saying D&D are lousy writers?
  13. I enjoy watching the dynamics of the struggle for power in King's Landing. That is the core of Game of Thrones to me. Watching Cersei vs the High Sparrow vs the Tyrells in seasons 5 and 6 was great and very well done. This power struggle on the show was presented in a much more compelling and interesting way than in the books, where Margaery and the High Sparrow are barely characters at all, and their motivations and struggles are not explored in depth. The show made these major players into real understandable characters with whom we can empathize. Book Margaery is probably more just a pawn of her father and brothers and their ambitions, but her father and brothers aren't really explored much in the books, either. In the books the Tyrells are just kind of there. In the show they are brought to the forefront, and their ambitions are embodied via the character of Margaery, coached by Olenna. It's the game of thrones. What more can you want?
  14. Show Margaery is a great character and blows away non-entity book Margaery. Her rivalry with Cersei was one of the best aspects of the show. This is an obvious improvement the show made. Kind of funny to see some fans argue vehemently and lengthily otherwise. D&D hatred is a powerful drug. Show Bronn is very good, but so was book Bronn. We just get more of him in the show. Not sure that is an improvement, as Bronn's expanded show role is more about giving Jamie more screen time. But I won't complain. Queen of Thorns is better on the show, too. Hell, the Tyrells in general are better on the show, even Mace. Speaking of Thorn(e)s, show Ser Alliser is better than book Ser Alliser. The show version seems like a more well-rounded, real character. We can hate him but still respect and understand him. Book Ser Alliser was just a dick.