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  1. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP701

    Tyrion's song.
  2. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP701

    I predict they will learn and eventually be quite formidable.
  3. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP701

    Many of those who died for Jon so far have been Wildlings, there are many castles on the wall to hand out to the Wildlings. The other loyal houses have ancestral lands. I don't think Jon was wrong to give the Karstarks and umbers another chance.
  4. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP701

    NikkiG, spot on.
  5. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP701

    Oh shit! It begins with a bang!!!
  6. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Personally I think that Cersei is in the early stages of a psychotic break. We will see if reality and remorse creep back in. It very well may be that her moment of clarity comes just before her brother (whichever) has to put her down. Or it may never come. I said that guilt is going to hit her. I should have said it may hit her. Cersei may have decided that Tommen was a lost cause when he sided with Marjery and His High Sh!ttiness against her. The "no trial by combat" proclamation was a gut punch. You could see it. She tried to keep him out of the sept but maybe she didn't really give a fcuk anymore. "Dummy wanna jump out a window...WGAS ! Jump." Truthfully, I felt that way about Tommen, but I gave his mother more credit. They have really buillt it up about how Cersei loves her children... I would prefer for Cersei to be overwhelmed by Shame! Shame! Shame! before she dies, but she is quite a piece of work. She may not be capable. On the other hand, I do not believe that the Valonquar will ultimately act out of anger or hatred or revenge. I believe it will be a devastatingly hard choice for the greater good. Love and pity and justice and maybe self-preservation. But not malice. IMHO.
  7. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    You make good points. Right now, all she has is spite. When she realizes that Dany is coming and the Tyrion is her hand, she will undoubtedly realize that her crusade/vendetta against Margery was stupid and useless. She needed to get rid of the HS, but killing some much of the KL elite including Margery and her uncle Kevin, may push her a little closer to total madness. She acts like she has zero conscience but I am not so sure. Guilt/responsibility for Tommen is going to hit her eventually. Anyway, Dany will give her a "purpose" again, but I think that by the time the end comes Cersei will be Mad King Arys come again.
  8. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    True. Especially in the case of Ellaria and the Sand Snakes. Oberyn was not killed by the Lannisters. He is dead because he decided to go into Batman villain mode and beat around the bush when he should have killed the Mountain and been done with it. Killing Myrcella was unjustified cold blooded murder. Joff was cold-blooded murder too, but he was such a sh!t that nobody weeps for him. Team Dany is not as "unsullied" as it used to be. In the books the Dornish plot and motivations are different and make more sense.
  9. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Really I just thought it was interesting that Olenna started the killing, Not the Mad Queen. I am not comparing the two. I really like QoT (show and books) and hate Cersei. The only time I have only ever been on Cersei's side was against the High Sh!tbird. It is well known that Cersei's has a talent for acquiring power but no ability to wield it. The Queen of thorns is masterful but that doesn't change the fact that her preemptive strike against Joff came to nothing(show, we don't know what will happen in the books). I think that show Cersei is completely mad now. I don't think her reactions are in any way indicative of her feelings for her children. I think she is completely unhinged. In a way, I almost think they are letting her come completely unglued so that when the Valonquar (JL or TL) does her in, it will be an act of mercy. I know Tyrion hates her but he is not a monster. In the end I think either brother will kill her with a heavy heart. .
  10. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Perhaps Kinvara is in Dany's Armada. What is interesting is if Melissandre encounters Kinvara in the South and tells her what's going on in the North, how does she react? How do they resolve which one has the true "Promised One." Does Thoros factor into it? If Arya encounters Thoros and the Hound, do they follow her to Winterfell? Does Arya become a stand in for LSH? Many possibilities, all of them kind of awesome.
  11. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Good points. I only meant to suggest that mayhap Dany has already been to Dorne, not to suggest whee she might land. And you are right, one or all of the Sand Snakes would probably have been visible on deck if she were departing from Dorne. I absolutely like your idea of setting loose the Dothraki to draw the defenders out of their strongholds and then crushing them from sea, air and land. Dany's forces are a giant Seal Team. The show has not mentioned Euron's dragon horn at all. I hope that mean that it doesn't factor that much in the books. I really hope it turns out to be a bust. I would hate to see any of Dany's three dragons destroyed or even turned against her. I have also considered that maybe Euron's horn is actually the Horn of Joramun and he just doesn't know it. Since I think the dragons are key to ultimate victory, I would almost rather see the horn crack the wall, than turn the dragons.
  12. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Furthermore Mace proved over and over that he was Tommen's equal in wussery. Mace was weak through and through. The toughest thing about him was his name. It is uncertain what the Tyrell army would have done after the destruction of the great sept. If they were inside the walls or just outside the walls, who would give the orders? The private armies were employees. I don't see them attacking the Lannisters without orders. Olenna had declared she was going to Highgarden. I assume she went. In her position I think that it is equally plausible that she would strike back or that she would wait and play a more strategic game. Either way, nothing is certain.
  13. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    One other random thought. I understand why Olenna wants revenge against Cersei, but...she struck Cersei first by killing Joff. Really, one could say that she set events in motion that cost her her entire house. I always thought that Cersei vs Margery was mostly Cersei's paranoia. I don't think Margery needed to destroy Cersei to get what she wanted. Maggie's Queen was always going to be Dany.
  14. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    I hate to say it again but I think the GRRM will tell the story of Maid Margery much better. No slight to what I think was a fantastic season. The show just doesn't have the time and space to let the Rose of Highgarden bloom in full.
  15. Imp Beyond the Wall

    [Spoilers] EP610

    #1. My thought exactly. I hadn't considered #2 and #3. Not sure that I think they will happen, but I wouldn't be mad. Interesting ideas. Cold Hands proved himself an ally, but GRRM says Uncle BJ isn't cold hands. Cold hands saving Sam and helping Bran seemed to be at the direct behest of the 3ER. Bloodraven is dead now. BJ could possibly be something else. We do see BJ kill WW's but that could be subterfuge. They are all dead after all. What difference does it make to them.
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