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  1. I gave it an 8. I thought it was a good finale but really missed Lady Stoneheart and news of just where the Blackfish is. Maybe they will start season 4 with that.

    I liked the Sam/Bran scene and figure that Coldhands will meet Bran and company on the other side of the gate. I wanted the gate to be the one in the book, through the mouth of the heart tree but I guess that was too difficult to do for some reason. The open gate through the wall made no sense. The wildlings can just pass through that one......

    Also, where is Gendry going? I hope Arya finds Needle and loved her scene. And I really liked what they did with Yara/Asha...I love the fact that she is going to go try to save Theon. I like it when HBO gives us a better story then in the books. I think this is a better Asha/Theon story....than what we get in Book 5.

    I like the fact that they made the battle against the Others, wights and that which controls them above the wall so important to the story line of this episode. That sets us up for where we are going.

    I miss it already...we have to wait until April again. Sigh, why are the seasons so short?

  2. Great episode, I gave it a 9. I thought it all hung together well and was very excited at the end when Sam the Slayer did his thing. I thought it was going to be the Cold Hands event but maybe that will come later.

    Daario is FANTASTIC. What a hottie! I really think the Dany arc this season has been the best. Every Dany scene in every episode has been great.

    Creepy what Mel did to Gendry. I guess she gets the leeches and the shadowbaby in a matter of minutes. At least our beloved Davos is out of the slammer. I liked the reference to the "battle in the snow".....

    and thank goodness there were no Theon torture scenes!

    Really fabulous.

  3. Not too impressed but any GOT episode is great as far as I am concerned.

    1) I cannot stand much more of the Theon torture. It is really too much. Please make him just go away like the books did and resurface later. If we have to go through scenes of that in every episode I will really not want to watch.

    2) Dany's scenes are the best this season - the sets rock and the dragons are fabulous. I really think her story line is being handled the best this season.

    3) What did everyone think of Talisa saying she was pregnant? Does that mean that Jeyne is? Or will Talisa go to the RW and be killed, along with the pregnancy?

    4) The Reeds are so important in the books and seem to be so diminished in the series....

    I love Margaery and am glad they got an actress to play her who is perfect for the role.

    The Purple Wedding can't come soon enough. Oh, I guess we have to wait another year for that.

  4. I was out of the country the past week and just had the opportunity to watch the episode on HBO Go. I am surprised there is so much negativity in the thread. I thought it was excellent and gave it a 9. I thought the Theon scenes were the worst, I do not like watching torture.

    I like the way Gendry is now becoming a critical part of the plot. And the whole Melissandre/Arya confrontation. Not sure where they are going with Loras being the only Tyrell male and all.

    LF is certainly more evil then he appears in the books. As much as I disliked the Roz character that was just gruesome. Too bad we need to wait till next season to get rid of Joff.

    Loved the Wall scenes....and the Riverrun scenes.....thought it was a great episode.

  5. I thought this was a great episode and gave it a 9.

    1) Maise was wonderful as Arya and we see the first romantic/affection struggle between Gendry and Arya...with her really not understanding her feelings and him having a better grip on the situation.

    2) Selyse was creepy and those fetuses were disgusting, but the whole thing effective. I wonder why they are making Stannis and his situation so bizarre? Stannis is very different in the HBO series.

    3) I loved Shireen and her friendship with Davos. I wonder how Davos is going to get in good standing with Stannis again. Will the HOB series have Stannis coming to the aid of the north? Don't see how.

    4) Bath scene was great. I thought it was great when Brienne stood up.

    5) Last scene with Tywin was amazing.

    This episode followed story lines from the book better even though characters were changed (Loras instead of Willis, etc...).

    I will watch it again about 4 times this week as I seem to be doing each week.....

  6. 10/10 from me as well. I have been on a business trip all week and watched it in my hotel every night it was on. I LOVE the ending, and particularly tuned in the last 15 minutes or so. Dany came into her own in this episode. I have always loved her and not understood the criticism of her on these boards....and was thrilled to see her finally become be the Queen Conquerer she is. I thought the final shots with her leading the Unsullied out of Astapor were just amazing - epic.

    Love it! Can't wait for Sunday!

  7. I gave it a 9, I thought it was excellent and certainly the best of the season so far. I loved the Dany scenes and the "we are not men" response to Valar Morghulis. I also liked the way she put Mormont and Selmy in their places about disagreeing with her in front of others. Can't wait to see Dacharys!

    I do not know where the Theon story is going, but it certainly is different from the books. I guess they want to keep him front and center for the viewers. And Millesandre's story - it looks like she will end up with the Brotherhood and that Gendry will take Edric Storm's place. I wonder how that will play out with Arya since her brother is a king she has king's blood too. But if the Hound takes her first then she will be gone.....

    I am usually not a fan of scenes added that are not in the book, but I loved the Pod sequences, I could even stand Roz for a few seconds because it was about Pod. I really like his character.

    All in all, a great episode. I will watch it a few more times this week I am sure!

  8. As an addendum to my previous post.

    No one portrays the Queen of Thorns as well as Roy Dotrice does in the audiobooks. Even an actress as amazing as Diana Rigg, who did an excellent job and is perfect for the role, is not as good as Roy Dotrice in the audiobooks. Maybe they should have dressed him in drag for the role.

    My not so humble opinion. Dotrice is a master.

  9. I gave it a 7, and I am usually much more upbeat about the episodes. For some reason this one did not hang together well in my opinion. Too many story lines, I am really glad I have read the books multiple times or I would have had a difficult time following it.

    I think the Cat scene was to keep Jon Snow front and center. HBO is focused on Jon and Dany which is good in my opinion. I am wondering how they will do the scene where she argues against Robb making Jon his heir after this scene. Maybe Robb will do it and she will agree.

    The actor who plays Bran has grown up so much over one year it was startling! His deep voice. I love the Reeds but not sure if I liked the way they were written in last night. They were sort of creepy and in the book they are warm and supportive. Also, what happened to Rickon? I am sure they did not have him go off with Shaggy Dog....he better show up later. I can see a split happening though, with Osha and Rickon going off as they do in the book.

    Too much time wasted on Shae and Tyrion...I think the Shae story line will play out much differently in the HBO series. I think she will be hung. Margaery is excellent, as was Olenna. I hate Joff but the actor is amazing. And I love the Hound.

  10. I have already rated the episode in an early post (a 9) but had to mention that the continuation of the Ros character makes no sense to me as well, unless she has something to do with Sansa's escape since Dontos has not been seen again. And how does the Varys/Ros scene from Ep.10 of season 2 factor into things with Ros and LF?

    Also, I forgot to mention that I missed seeing Dalla and Val in Mance Rayder's tent. I wonder when they will be introduced. Val at least has to come on the scene eventually, and the baby.

  11. I gave it a 9 and really liked it. It was great for a first episode, getting the stage set for things to come. And I really liked the introduction of Selmy, they got right to the point. Sometimes I think the books just take too long to get where they are going (that plane needs to land.... instead of circling and circling) and I like that Selmy came on the scene, saved Dany, said who he was and asked for forgiveness all at once. That got rid of a lot of unnecessary pages of text right there. And I liked the tension in Cersei over Margaery already instead of waiting to see it all the way down in the 5th book.

    I am not sure what Robb was doing at Harrenhal....and of course I really want to see Arya....and I wish Ghost was with Jon. But somehow I think Ghost will do more to help the Nights Watch then he would have done with Jon. And maybe he will be at Castle Black when Jon gets there.

    Love this show....will watch it again tonight.

  12. I can't stand the Ironborn. If Victarion survives and Selmy dies that is it for me. Selmy has to last until Dany gets back to Westeros. Cersei needs to see him next to Dany and she needs to pay dearly for what she did to him.

    I am tired of all of these chapters coming out dribble drabble and all of us trying to figure out where things lead. FINISH THE FREAKING BOOK ALREADY!!!!!

  13. All in all I thought they did a great job this season. I gave this episode a 7 because of the HoTU, I thought that was lame. Otherwise I thought the episode was good, I loved Brienne and Jaqen Hagar. I also like the way they had Hagar say that he was a Faceless Man instead of that being subtle like in the books, and LF telling Sansa right out that he would rescue her instead of the Dontos story line and surprise at the end. Since the visions in the HoTU were not in the book....I have to assume we are being set up for Dany to be at the Wall at some point which we had all figured out would happen eventually. Also, it looks like she will be in Westeros during winter in the tv series at least. So maybe she will get heck out of Meereen!

    I think the writers and producers have done a great job with this TV series. I have been able to separate it from the books and appreciate it for what it is. But the HoTU was a real letdown. I do think all in all the series is excellent and hope it wins tons of Emmys.

  14. Certainly a 10, the best episode so far. I loved the Rains of Castamere playing during the credits at the end and Tywin coming into the throne room....

    It was adapted for TV but still true to the book. Perfect. I loved it. Will watch it again at 10pm.

    And it was great to see Roy Dotrice again. San/San was fine, that story will continue later. I am confident now that the important story lines of Book 3 will be preserved in Seasons 3 and 4.

    Love ya GRRM!

  15. I watched the episode again and I have to comment on what a great actor the guy who plays Joffrey is. The scene where he is blustering about cutting a smile on Stannis' face and he pulls out his sword a little was so obnoxiously played, it was perfect. He really does the obnoxious clueless brat of a boy king role to the hilt. I think he is very, very, good in the role.

    And I think the actor who plays Bronn has that role down perfectly as welll - and Varys too. The Varys/Tyrion scene which was part of the Joff scene is priceless. I could not imagine a better job of portraying Joff, Bronn, Varys and Tyrion than what these skillful actors are doing.

  16. Definitely a 10. An excellent espisode. I was so happy to see Bran/Rickon, Hodor/Osha and Luwin in the crypts at the end. Asha's strongest appearance. I think Talisa is still Jeyne and somehow her relationship with Robb made more sense to me this episode. And Cersei is her horrible self, with Ros playing the Alayaya role as we suspected. The set up for her to accuse Tyrion of the Purple Wedding is underway.

    Excellent, excellent. I think I will stay up long enough to watch it again at 10pm central. Love it.

  17. I thought this espisode was ok, I gave it a 7. I really felt it was in some ways a "tranisition" or "set up" episode for things to come. The Theon scenes were well done, but I really missed having the Bran/Rickon/Osha/Hodor group hiding in the crypts. I am almost positive now they will encounter the Reeds on the road.

    Also the scenes with Jamie were long and somewhat boring but they have to do this to set up the future story line of Jaimie and Brienne, to show how awful a person he is and how he begins to change....and I am not sure what the point of Arya/Tywin is since they did not speak even once in the book! Why is it important to show this relationship developing on the TV show? I can't figure out where that story line is going.

    Also - are there only 9 episodes this season? HBO said only 2 episodes to go...I thought there were 10 this season.

    I like the Sandor/Sansa focus and that makes me optimistic that San/San will continue to be a story line in future books as well as on tv.

  18. I loved this episode and gave it a solid 9. I think Talisa will be revealed as Jeyne Westerling, that she is just using a phony name and her true identity will be revealed. And I always thought it was odd in the books that someone didn't just steal the dragons and kill Dany' s llittle khalisar...honestly, that is a very unrealistic part of the story in the books. I am anticipating that she will go to the HotU to retrieve them, see the visions there and destroy it before leaving with all three dragons which will make for great television - which is what this is.

    Theon, Winterfell, the escape at the end with Osha, Arya/Tywin and Sandor saving Sansa - were all really well done. I love The Hound in this episode and am glad they are keeping the Sandor/Sansa story alive. And any episode without Ros ranks at the top.

    I have to say that the series is making me see that there is no way GRRMs books could be translated to the screen exactly as they are. The HBO series has to be taken for what it is. And I think they are doing an excellent job providing us with an excellent tv adaptation of the books.

    I believe the Reeds, or at least Meera, will show up later on. And we will see Ramsey....which does not warm my heart but he is part of the story line.

  19. I thought this was the best episode yet - and gave it a 10. I just loved it, all of it, and thought Jaqen, Arya, Tywin and Gendry shirtless were all excellent. I really like Jaqen.

    Brienne's agony over seeing Renley killed was very moving - Christie is a great actress and I hope she gets nominated for an Emmy next year. I guess she did not have enough air time to make it this year. And Catelyn was excellent as well.

    I was so relieved there were no Ros scenes and no time wasted with prostitues and sex scenes that don't mean anything. I really like how much of the book was covered in this episode and how the story was moved along. And the less I have to see of Cersei the better, that actress and that character really get on my nerves.

    Iceland was breathtaking and a perfet place to film North of the Wall. Those scenes were EXCELLENT!!!! And I, too, loved the shot of Ghost on the Fist of First Men in the background.

    I just loved this episode from start to finish. I would like to see Rhaegon and Visyrion though, Drogon is the only dragon getting air time. The three should be flying around the room and sitting on Dany by now.

  20. I thought it was a great episode and gave it a 10. There were things I did not like - every time Ros is on the screen I don't like it and that scene with Joff was totally unnecessary. We already know he is a sadist - although I must say the actor who playes Joff is excellent. And young to be so talented.

    Greywind - Robb was great.

    Cat was excellent in all of her scenes.

    Roos Bolton was Roos.

    Harrenhall was great, I thought Arya was great but the twist to the story from her being Tywin's cupbearer instead of going to the cleaning crew first makes me wonder who her first "kill" will be, they must be changing that part of the story.

    Millesandre is very well played.

    I have to say though, the series is very violent and full of "evil'" stuff which those of us who have read the books understand. But people who have not read the books may not and may get turned off by it. My husband is one of those and thinks the series is just too strange....with too many dark forces. Even when I try to explain all of the story lines to him....there is not enough time to develop the characters where you see the good in some people to counter the bad in so many others. That is why I fear that not having good characters like Meera and Jojen to balance the bad just makes it too dark for those who have not read the books.

  21. I gave it a 10, I think its the best episode thus far this season. I loved Brienne and thought the more worldly Margaery was great. Her character in the HBO series makes her actions in the books more believeable.

    The girl who plays Sansa (can't remember her name) is really beautiful and is a perfect Sansa. I don't like Shae but maybe its because I know what she will do to Tyrion down the road. I really do not like that character. The Theon scenes were great but I am surprised they are giving him this much airtime considering the fact that he disappears for a number of books...how will they explain that away next season when there is no Theon? And Asha is not how I picture her, she is a bitch instead of a likable woman warrior.

    Where are Meera and Jojen? I miss them, they should be around by now.....

  22. I love the show in general, but this episode only rated a 4 with me, when last week I rated episode 1 a 10. I am so sick and tired of Ros and the brothel and feel those scenes are such a waste of time that could have been better spent on extending and developing other scenes like the ones with Asha/Theon going up to Pyke, more with Arya, show as much Tyrion as possible please, and Dany's three blood riders came back to her - one did not die. Why was that necessary?

    The best part was Ghost. I thought the ending was mixed up as well and did not make much sense, with Jon and Craster....

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