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  1. I have always thought the fact that Cersei always thought Tyrion would be the death of her and how horrible she treated him meant that it would actually end up being Jaimie that ends up being the death of her.
  2. I don't think BBP being liked by Dany's dragons just as he was liked by Dany will have any significance later... Ben at that time wasn't planning on betraying Dany so there was no reason for her dragons to dislike him or sense his upcoming betrayal...I just think it the dragons liking him, like Dany liking him shows that she can be fooled and betrayed as she has learned. I don't think the dragons have the same connection/purpose that the dire wolves have with the Stark children. I just don't see BBP having any interaction with a dragon in the future...there are still TONS of people out there with at least "a drop" or more of Targ blood. Ben said he is from nearly every part of the known world....I think it was just him being a braggart, not some kind of foreshadowing.
  3. I agree about the discrepancy regarding the missing 3k pointy hats possibly (hopefully) means they are being kept inside (but hidden) to whup some Harpy ass when they "try" to take advantage of the seemingly vulnerable situation ...hopefully that is part of the plan and both threats inside and out can be dealt with. But unless I am missing something, Dany still appears to not be around so this is all being done without her, right? I'm done trying to defend Victarion in this thread, but I do like the comments Tam Tam made at the top of page 16 (nicely put Ser..I would have liked to have "liked" it but it seems that option sadly is now missing. (can we ever bring this back?) There are very interesting issues brought up that I cam dying to be able to get my grubby little hands on tWOW in its entirety that have my brain spinning: 1) Will Selmy survive this battle? It would be very satisfying and a nice eff you to Cersei and the Lannisters to see Selmy as the Commander of the Queensguard marching into Kingslanding 2) Is smashing both the enemies inside (the Harpy's sons) AND at the gate both being handled and accounted for? (I really, really, really hope so) 3) The whole Pale Mare issue with the sickness and the flying corpses reaching everywhere but the North part of Mereen and the fact that he is riding his Khalessi's horse into battle (a no-no BTW, right?) a) is this considered a betrayal? 4) Will Dany arrive during or after this battle? ....and with a huge freaking hoard of new Dothraki screamers at her back? We have to assume she still hasn't arrived yet, right? 5) I can't wait to see what role the two dragons will play, if any? Anyone think they enter into Selmy's plan? 6) From the comment is shows Tyrion is unhappy, (I am assuming because he has probably laid a plan that will be successful but will not get the credit (again) 7) Can't wait to see what Victarion will end up actually doing at the end of the day. (as I have said, I think he is smarter than many give him credit for) ---please Mr. George, please write like the wind Ser, write like the wind!.
  4. That was my original point...his perception of being "dumb" is rooted in his being loyal and dutiful to his brother and following the "old way" which is his religion. I'm just saying that people see him as being dumb because he is a dutiful younger brother and follows the way of his religion. By that rational, (which I was actually trying to avoid) is everyone that follows what they believe their religion or family tells them to do, dumb? Its a difficult argument to make.....I might think that people in a certain religion are "dumb" for doing certain things, but they do it because of what they believe in that religion. Its not for me IMO to comment about a person's religion. There are many things that I do not agree with or understand with regards to what certain religious people do...but if looking at it from the outside I might (without understanding the religion) think people of whatever religion as being "dumb". The same goes for being a dutiful younger brother and doing that your older brother or family tells you to do. It just seems that Victarion being dumb in people's eyes is due to him following his religion and doing what his brother told him to do....you can't equate duty with being dumb. I think if he was his own man and free from following the "old ways" of his religion and free from the yoke of his brother and able to act 100% on his own... Like I said, this is not the place for a debate on the merits of religion (any religion), but needless to say, there are things I do not agree with that people I know do believe because of their religion. From my perspective these things are just ludicrous....and make zero sense to me and when ignoring the fact that these people believe this stuff because of their religion, I could definitely understand wanting to think these people are just "dumb" because they believe this stuff. Maybe I am not doing a very good job of explaining what I am trying to say...but I do not think its fair to judge Victarion as being dumb because he follows his religion (the only religion he knows) unless you are willing to say ALL religious people are dumb. (which is not something I can say personally) ...and yes, he was most likely given the job of admiral because he was a Greyjoy, but he has been able to keep it after all these years, so he must be doing something right. The Iron Born took on the entirety of Westeros...as it was stated by someone they did decent for being out numbered..They were all defeated. I don't think mentioning Stannis defeated Vic means anything when talking about Vic being dumb or not....he was told to go to war so being a dutiful younger brother, he did, regardless of the fact that he was outnumbered.
  5. I think his being "unimaginative" is more a result of being a dutiful younger brother and him "fearing" the drowned god. If he is free to truly be on his own, which I hope we will/are seeing in these chapter, I think he will prove to be much more than a thuggish unimaginative brute. Being an admiral (a successful one) requires being a strategist and a tactician as well as a leader of men...on top of being a skilled and more than adequate warrior.
  6. its something called a sea (none of us would know it wasn't water had we not been told first what it really was).....having being ignorant of a people/place is far from being dumb. I'm just saying Victarion does not seem to be the eff-tard everyone is saying he is, not by a long shot. You don't get to be the leader of the Iron fleet by being a dolt....you especially don't survive long as such anyway. Vic is an accomplished leader and is the admiral of a fleet... Having one on one combat skills is one thing, being able to fight, control a fleet (which is an army on water) is quite another. Tywin only gave the Mountain a handful of mean to ride the country side and do nothing but inflict violence...comparing the two seems just stupid IMO...does anyone think Tywin would trust the Mountain with ANY actual "Army" or a significant portion of one? come on I agree, like many modern day athletes they can have exceptional skill at their chosen sport/warriors can have skill and experience fighting...but how many of them could actually be a decent coach/leader? I just think comparing the Mountain and Victarion is folly...
  7. to everyone saying Victarion is dumb....in his chapters in many places he seems to have been pretty smart in how he took his fleet or 99 ships across the Narrow Sea..on page 813 of ADWD it even says he is not coward, nor is he a fool when taking about how he is going to try to hurry and beat the Voltantenese ships he has seen making preparations to sail to Meeren....beat them to Dany and hurry and leave before they ALL get there. It seems he is a pretty competent sailor and commander/strategist. His problem IMO is that he isn't dumb (just the opposite) , he is feels duty-bound to his brother and the Drowned God....by which is hands are tied in many ways as a result. ( Unless you want to argue that religion/religious people are dumb....but that is not something I am going to comment on, nor is this the place for it) But in a world where some people follow rules (whatever they are) and other don't.... as to the comments about how he mistrusts laughter...because he thinks he might be the butt of some jape...I just think he has brother/family issues. I don't think he is dumb at all...he is just effed up in the head after a lifetime of eating shit as a dutiful younger brother.
  8. no people certainly don't need "rational" reasons to "hurt" others (just open the newspaper)...but there does not seem to be any evidence Pod even gives two shits about about Illyn...what so ever...I would certainly think Pod's motivations and loyalties would be much more in line with say Brie'ene's or Tyrion's than for him to have any desire to hold the wrong person accountable for something in my opinion Illyn at the very least deserved. Considering the place and times he should have been killed for his big mouth. It just seems to be way out there and random and serving no purpose for him to avenge Illyn's missing tongue to be considered...doesn't it? You don't think he has a million other things to want to do first if that was on his list in the first place? Remember that he is wanting to become a knight..and holding someone else accountable for yet someone elses (which was actually more than fair action all things considered) is MOST definitely NOT something an honorable knight would do. The Payne's don't seem overly close to each other or concerned with an insane sense of false family honor.... If you are talking about the Frey's on the other hand...holding a yet unborn baby "responsible" for something his father's father did (in all honesty, justly in my opinion...even if it was just cutting out a tongue) then MAYBE I could see it...but only (if Pod was a Frey) and being a Frey- someone as effed up and utterly lacking morals and self esteem and any honor as the Freys are....but Freys aside...I really doubt it.
  9. Do you just make up crack pot theories to mess with people or is this actually something you believe?
  10. Why do people think Pod even gives a damn about Ilyn? Or that he would give two shits about "getting revenge" for something that Aerys did (that Ilyn actually got off easy for) and would hold his "son" responsible for it? Aegon literally has nothing to do with it...I doubt he knows about it even. What is get going to say, "Hello, my name is Podrick Payne, your crazy father cut the loose tongue out of my shit talking uncle instead of killing him, prepare to die" ...many more people have been much more grievously wronged in these books,,,,to think Pod even thinking or want to "avenge" Ilyne missing tongue I don't honestly thinks even ranks up there at all
  11. i've almost all but given up hope for people the same people that use alot should be hung by their toes and the people that correctly spell a lot, may they never be hanged
  12. Thats why Cersei had Ilyn Payne there....no need for poison. a lot
  13. I have always kinda been alright with giving them a lot of leeway with Dany's story, as long as the end results are the same (which we actually haven't read yet) and she "learns" the same lessons, I am more than willing to cut them slack with her story, much more so than any of the others. Since a lot of the PtWP stuff is up in the air, and introducing new characters in her visions are difficult....having an accurate to the books sequence would have been difficult at this point, I guess I didn't feel too upset with the change. Don't get me wrong, I am dying to see ALL of her visions and seeing Rhaegar and others... I would have giggled like a little girl while watching it, if they could have done it...I guess I can understand why they couldn't. It would have been awesome for the book readers but overly confusing for just the TV viewers. But this is one of the only places I can forgive changes like this....
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