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Finally finished it and thoroughly enjoyed the conclusion and send-off of the characters and story. I really liked bringing Miller back and having the references to Julie Mao and Eros. That happened so long ago it was almost refreshing to see it tie back so far. The final chapters had a nostalgic longing that I feel when I know a good story is coming to an end. Jim and Naomi's final conversation was endearing and the events that followed felt completely in-character. I was worried that there weren't going to be enough pages left to address the goth situation but upon reflection, I feel they provided a good enough explanation for them and the romans. @karaddin's summary post earlier in this thread was a great cliff notes version of it. I agree that the Kit chapters seemed pointless and the dreamers chapters were difficult given it was almost meaningless, poetic exposition. So a very good finale that had me thinking about it for hours afterward which is a great sign. Will definitely be looking forward to a future re-read in a couple of years, as well as any of the new content Abraham and Franck come up with.

I'm reading Leviathan Falls right now and all of Amos's dialogue is in Wes Chatham's voice. For some reason that doesn't happen with any of the other characters and I cannot undo it for Amos.

Also, I will point out that Amazon releasing it at 12am GMT on December 10 means it drops in an hour for those in the PST or EST timezones (~4pm PST / 7pm EST).

I haven't read Strange Dogs and likely won't before S6 or Leviathan Falls. Is there anything revealing in it? Also the trailer has me super pumped for Friday. I forgot that the show is dropping one episode a week instead of all at once. Streaming has spoiled me.

Yeah, this is certainly a series where reading the books and watching the show are both worth it and I'm very curious about the reaction of the show-first viewers in contrast to the readers. I think even moreso than ASOIAF because this series is still lagging behind the book storyline even upon it's finale. Ashford is by far the best contrast and the show pulls his character off so much better than his book counterpart. Same with Drummer though with less disparity/ conglomeration of characters. I give the show writers a lot of credit there.

Avasarala is always a significant character by nature of her title and role in the story. I'd say the show gives her the same amount of screentime as the books do. Her presence does diminish later in the story but we would get into book spoilers in order to explain. The battles are tough to depict -- even in the books they get chaotic and especially so as the writers keep to the real physics of space combat and strategy. I think the books do a better job in describing them due to the technicality of a lot of the ship maneuvering and I also feel like the books had more space combat scenes in general (though it's never really military sci-fi). You should definitely continue the books. I think the series gets better past the first 2 novels, it's different enough from the show that you might appreciate the perspective, and it will have more content than what the show has and can cover.

Wait I've forgotten a lot about Season 2. Hughie works on Neumann's staff but what is his role and why is he getting news-worthy attention?

That was amazing actually.

Now do Christopher Reeves.

It looked like the prison girl had general telekinesis abilities but the congresswoman has specific head popping abilities. We never see the congresswoman break someone's neck or anything else. She could have made the religion guy's death more suicical looking but nope -- pure head popping. I assume they'll adjust her powers however they like.

Yeah I'd probably give the edge to S1 over S2 for 2 primary reasons. 1) Being personally new to the story, the initial shock and novelty of the violence, scenes and story in Season 1 provided a great deal of suspense for me. No other scene beats the 'holy shit' moment of that S1 Airplane episode. Come Season 2, I'm just used to most of the superhero actions and am not as surprised or shocked by Stormfront being a murdering Nazi or having heads suddenly explode in the middle of a scene. 2) Season 1 had more humor as I recall. Most of Deep's scenes (dolphin breakout, trying to save the lobster at the grocery store, diversity hire) were hilarious. I was cracking up at the therapy scene with the guy whose penis broke off after getting frozen. Season 2 was generally far more serious due to the nature of the plot progression. Also, I think I just enjoyed a couple of the character storylines more in S1 (like A-train and Hughie/Starlight's interactions and romances) compared to Season 2.

I don't really see a problem here. The MCU has already built up public backlash over the Avengers.. multiply it and carry it over to mutants. Particularly mutants qho aren't isolated to the Avengers HQ and might be your neighbor's kid qho doesnt know how to use their powers. The remaining Avengers today in Phase 4 are more space oriented so they can deal with extraterrestial threats instead of Earth-based conflicts. The Black Panther franchise can focus on problems internal to Wakanda wherever they go with the franchise. Not sure Hulk, Winter Soldier, Falcon is even considered a part of Phase 4. This leaves the X-Men to deal with earth based conflicts and the Fantastic 4 to sort of straddle the 2.. or deal with other dimensions with Dr. Strange. There's a lot of opportunity here in my opinion. The biggest issues is rejuvenating storylines and characters disastrously used during Fox's run.. not around the premise of civil rights and segregation.

I was going to subscribe to HBO this month so I could finally watch the Deadwood movie but this might hold me off. Really want to watch Succession based on what I've heard here..

AVOID THIS FORUM AT ALL COSTS. DO NOT LOOK AT ANY ASPECT OF THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER ASOIAF RELATED SITE. Seriously. DO. NOT. COME. BACK. Until you've finished A Feast for Crows. Until then, I welcome you.

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