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    Crasters White Walker arrangement

    It's not a binary condition; the seasons come and go based on the general "Starkyness" of Winterfell, with true Fimbulwinter only hitting when Starkyness is at or very near zero. Ned Stark married a Southron woman and his bloodline was diluted. Catelyn had much less Stark blood than is typical for a Stark bride (The Northern Houses are rather impressively incestuous) so his kids were less Starky then usual to begin with. If you think about it, this makes some sense: during a long, pleasant summer, the Stark is likely to travel from his castle, and to arrange marriages for his children from farther afield, lowering the Starkyness and bringing winter. By contrast, winter encourages the Stark to remain at Winterfell and forces him to find marriages for his children closer to home. This increases the Starkyness and brings spring. So we see an uneven and unpredictable cycle, but a cycle nonetheless.
  2. I never got the impression this implied anything more than "dark hair is dominant" which of course it is. Cross a BB brunette with a bb blonde and you get a Bb brunette every time. Then you marry that Bb brunette to another BB brunette and every child will be either a BB brunette or a Bb brunette, and every subsequent generation that dormant blond gene become less and less common; it's not improbable that a bb blonde genotype never showed up in the Baratheon line due to simple chance as long as marriages with blondes were few and far between, which they seemed to be. There's some irony here: Ned comes to the correct conclusion, that Cercei's children are not Robert's, but by flawed logic. With a blonde Grandmother, it's entirely possible Robert himself carries a blonde gene. The fact that he came to the correct conclusion by following bad logic leads one to wonder if he came to that conclusion on his own or if he was led to that conclusion deliberately by someone else. Ned was trying to discover what Arryn discovered by studying genealogy and why it led to his murder. What if Aryn hadn't discovered Cercei's infidelity at all? What if he discovered that he couldn't possibly have been Sweetwobin's father? "The seed is strong" = "The gene is dominant".
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    Craster and the Others: Why?

    I think the Others see it as charity: they're giving the children a better life as far as they're concerned. And when Winter with a capital 'W' goes worldwide they'll almost certainly be right, it's going to be much better to be an ice-person. It's critical to keep in mind that the Others being an "evil species" is entirely contrary to how GRRM operates. I'm sure there are Others who are assholes: they probably have their own Gregor Cleganes and Ramsay Boltons and Geoffrey Baratheons, and even if we the readers witness horrible acts of violence from the Others, concluding the entire people consists of monsters is drawing the wrong conclusion. It's the conclusion the author wants us to draw, certainly, but only to teach us a lesson about how drawing such conclusions based on limited information is ruinous.
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    Victarion GreyJoy is a Jerk

    Plenty of people love Drogo, and that doesn't seem to mystify anyone. Why are you confused about someone liking Victarion? He's just Drogo-on-the-Ocean. For the same reason I'm always mystified when people say something to the effect of "Daenerys could never love someone like Victarion!" when he is exactly her type, a cocky, deadly, violent asshole.
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    Crasters White Walker arrangement

    I don't think it's a "sacrifice" at all. My pet theory for the Others: Towards the end of the war between the CotF and humanity, the CotF created Winter as a doomsday weapon to force humans to capitulate to their demands. The Others were the humans who refused to surrender, who instead chose to alter themselves to adapt to the Winter. Winter is returning because the pact between the Men and CotF has been broken in some major way (likely the Stark-in-Winterfell-clause) and the Others are just offering anyone who will accept it the ability to survive.
  6. The war with the Children of the Forest ended with the CotF creating Winter with a capital W, a doomsday curse. They demanded the humans submit to their demands or the Winter would never end. Demands included the installment of a ruling family uniquely vulnerable to their mind magic as King. Humanity didn't capitulate right away, and alternative solutions were sought. One group went so far as to alter themselves with magic to be able to survive the Winter, but that was too high a price to pay for most, and eventually most of mankind capitulated. The demands met, with the installment of The Stark as King, the Winter receded to the North. The humans who had adapted themselves to it could no longer survive without it, so they had to follow. These were the Others. There's a great deal of bitterness there: they see the rest of humanity as cowards who should not have surrendered. The Others are back because the Winter is back, not the other way around. The Winter is on a dead-man's switch, and it returns automatically when the conditions of Humanity's surrender are broken in some way.
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    MIA - but not Killed on Page

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around people who think he's dead.
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    What was wrong with Maegor’s private’s?

    Sabotage by the Maesters
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    Why was Harrenhal built?

    The Hoare lineage has trait that interferes with "magic" around them. Harrenhal was designed to amplify that trait so that it covers the world, suppressing magic everywhere. The Lothstons and Whents descend from house Hoare. Notice the close timing of Lucas Lothston getting Harrenhal and the death of the last dragon. Then notice the timing of Lady Whent losing Harrenhal during the War of the Five Kings and the birth of Daenery's dragons.
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    End game predictions for all the characters?

    Tyrion is alive. Daenerys's three (human) children are alive, likely all separated, but alive. Sam is alive. Daenerys dies giving birth to #3 in the last chapter of ADoS. Jon is already dead (again) by this point. Either Arya kills Bran or Bran kills Arya or they both kill each other, but it doesn't matter either way. Neither is human anymore even if they live, and both will remain in some form if they die. They are both eldritch horrors and it won't be possible to think of either as anything but when the story ends. Daenerys kills Sansa in Harrenhal in late WoW or early ADoS. This will be understood to be a terrible mistake, as she was the last hope for stopping Fimbulwinter. We won't hear anything about Rickon ever again. Everyone else who matters is dead. The Others win. The last book ends with Tyrion watching the sun rise just barely, set again minutes later, then it's gone for 20-30 years.
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    The House of the Undying

    At least some of those bloodlines play into the Song. The Starks and the Greyjoys most directly. And not filler: prologue. You misunderstand. The children won't be born and then have an impact on the story. Their birth is the whole point. The story doesn't end when the children do something, the story ends when they're born. They are the story. Christ doesn't have any impact as a child, but we still tell the story of his birth, then we pop back in 30 years later and talk about what he did when he was all grown up. To be clear, I'm not saying there will be a time skip. I'm saying that the story won't end with the Others being defeated. Quite the contrary, the most plausible ending for the last novel is the sun rising, just barely, in the southern sky, peeking over the horizon for a moment before setting again. The last sunrise and sunset in a generation. a generation You notice how that phrase gets used when they talk about the Long Night? Did you never stop to think what that meant? It doesn't simply mean "a long time". A dream. That's the bittersweet ending we're left with: Winter with a capital "W" is upon the world but the prophecy is in fulfillment, and we have a glimmer of what that means. But just a glimmer: a dream.
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    The House of the Undying

    The point, I think, is that this is a story about the birth of Dany's three (human) children. But a writer is faced with a challenge with that sort of story: if the entire purpose of the story is the birth of three children by a single woman, then the time involved would have to mean that the climax of the story would be split into three parts, at least one of those parts happening fairly early in the story. That's not good storytelling. Instead, hide the birth, reintroduce him to the story soon after child #2 is born. This way all three children get to be revealed in Act 3, and all three get to be a part of the "conclusion" of the story, which can all fit into a span of a year instead of three years.
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    The House of the Undying

    Everyone seems so sure about that...
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    Skinchangers, Greenseers and Shadowbinders are people. People aren't inherently magic: they don't need magic to survive. There are things which suggest that the wall does interfere with Skinchanging: Jon loses contact with Ghost while the wall separates them. And to be frank, we don't have any evidence that the Wall stops Others at all. They were able to control Wights in castle black, after all. Odd that the wall seems to block skinchanging but not corpsehandling. If the wall was meant to stop the Others, allowing them to control the dead through the wall seems like a somewhat glaring weakness.